Acquire Elo With Thoth - An In Depth Guide to Thoth - Build, Matchups, Tips and Tricks - Updated for Season 5!
May 12, 2018
Introduction to Thoth
Hi! I am XenoChief, a mid lane main, and welcome to my Thoth Guide! Be it DOTA, LOL or Smite, I have always been a massive fan of high damage magical mid laners in MOBAs, be it Invoker, LeBlanc or Scylla; and the moment Thoth came out I fell in love - a mobile high damage, high skill cap, versatile mage focused on dealing massive damage with stupidly long ranged skillshots.
Chances are if you are reading this guide, you have seen Thoth's insane kit and like me thought 'this is a ****ing awesome character, I should learn him so I too can acquire ELO by oneshotting people from 130 units away'. Well look no further! Thoth is not an easy character to play by any means; he's hard to learn and even harder to master, but once you've got past his steep learning curve, he can carry games by himself, do insane damage, set up picks; everything you want in a mage. With that being said let's get in to the guide!
Thoth's Pros and Cons
- One of the highest damage characters in the game
- One of the best late game mages
- Unrivaled poke
- One good ult can win a game
- Can apply his damage from miles away
- Can impact teamfights through walls
- 75 Unit Dash that goes in 8 directions: incredibly safe
- Very long ranged stun: can set up picks and peel for himself
- Can snowball very well
- Awesome walking animation
- Disrespectful laugh (be sure to spam this as much as possible)
- Worst Level 1 and 2 in the game
- Bad early game
- Item Dependent
- Mana hungry in early game
- Struggles with characters that can stick to him - only has one dash to get away with
- Entirely line skillshot based - lacks the AoE of other mages
- Squishy: one CC and he is dead
- Reliant on kiting
- Hard to learn
- Harder to master
Thoth's Abilities Part 1: A summary
Passive: Dead Reckoning
Thoth pens the names of his fallen opponents in his book, recording their weaknesses. After killing 30 Enemies, Thoth gains a stack of 3 Magical Penetration, and killing an Enemy God will complete the current stack. He unlocks a new stack every 4 levels, up to a maximum of 5 stacks at level 17.
A suprisingly strong passive. Since on Thoth
you generally farm quite a lot to get your items online anyway, this actually ties in quite well with that making it so not only you get gold, but you also get pen for free as well, one of THE most valuable stats in the entire game (it goes movement speed > pen > CDR > power for a mage generally speaking). Late game is really where this shines, with Spear of Desolation
and Shoes of the Magi
, you're shredding through most of the protections of most mid laners, healers and ADCs, aka the people you want to be blowing up, since all in all you'll have like 40 penetration, leaving mages with only 10 protections (meaning they won't be mitigating much of your damage). Considering how Thoth
's ult can hit for 1200, his 2 for 600 and his 1 for 300 a shot.. yeah.
This is also what makes him so snowbally; upon killing a God, Thoth
not only gets the gold from the kill, but also instantly gets 3 Penetration from his passive without needing to stack it, meaning he gets a lot more leverage from his kills than other mid laners.
All in all, it's one of the better passives for a mage, even if it is a more underrated part of his kit. In Patch 5.4 , Dead Reckoning
was nerfed to provide 1 less penetration per stack, up to a total of 5 penetration lost overall. While losing 5 penetration does suck a bit, the good thing that this still provides as much penetration as a Divine Ruin
or Spear of Desolation
, meaning Thoth
still only needs to build one penetration item to be shredding through 40 protections! This is still a great passive, as it means you can very comfortably go into the newly buffed Shaman's Ring
or Soul Reaver
still and not feel the lack of penetration. More on this later.
Ability 1: Hieroglyphic Assault
Thoth begins to gather magic from the air, ignoring the Basic Attack Movement penalty and conjuring 3 Hieroglyphs. His next 3 Basic Attacks pass through enemies and do Ability Damage instead. If these attacks pass through the Glyph of Pain, their range is increased.
Damage (per shot) 40/60/80/100/120 (+25% Magical Power)
Thoth's main damage spell. Similar to Scylla
's Celestial Beam
' Unstable Vortex
, this is where the bulk of Thoth
's non-ultimate damage comes from. When fired through his Glyph of Pain
, it will deal up to 175 (+30%) PER SHOT (for a total of 510 (+90%) damage) from up to 85 units away (more on the Glyph of Pain
later). This is what makes Thoth
the long ranged poke/artillery sieging monster that he is, getting hit by these shots hurt.
As of Patch 5.1, this spell got a 15 damage overall buff at all ranks. While not that impactful at later levels, at Level 1 and 2 this is huge. It makes his early levels slightly less painful, especially with the extra damage from Mage's Blessing
One of the most crucial skills a Thoth player needs is to be able to consistently hit these shots from long distances through his Glyph of Pain
. You need to able to hit 2/3 shots every time to really get use out of this character, but if you can pull this off consistently, you can, in conjunction with his other skills, delete people before they even get in auto range of you. These shots pass through EVERYTHING so they can't hide behind creeps or their tank(s). If you aim this well, they will die.
It's on an 8s base cooldown as well, which in conjunction with his 5s CD on his 3, makes him incredible at sieging with the barrage of poke he can output.
In Patch 5.4, this spell got a significant (though indirect) scaling nerf, as attacks passing through the Glyph of Pain
now only get their scaling buffed by 5% as opposed to 10%, meaning this spell overall loses 15% Magical power scaling. Fortunately, this spell still hits really hard, at 515+90% of your magical power if you hit all three shots, it's just now going to be even more crucial to hit this ability consistently.
Ability 2: Evade and Punish
Thoth dashes in the direction he is currently traveling. After dashing, for 5s Thoth's next basic attack instead fires a magical projectile at the target which passes through minions, stuns, and deals ability damage. If either the Dash or Attack passes through the Glyph of Pain, their respective range is increased by 30.
Damage: 70/110/150/190/230 (+60% of your Magical Power)
Stun Duration: 1s
Boy oh boy, where do I begin with this one? Possibly the most controversial spell in all of Smite, this thing is a gift from the gods and is what makes Thoth
the S+ tier mage you see today. You see, on Thoth
's release, this spell was the same 75 Unit Dash, but the projectile afterwards was smaller, slowed for 20-40% and the cooldown was a flat 18s. First, they made the cooldown 16-12s per rank, then they made the projectile bigger, then they changed the slow to a flat 1s stun.
This is the best standard mage ability in the game. Straight up. No other mage has a tool as good as this expect maybe Janus
with his Portal
. This spell, as dmbrandon so elegantly put it is 'longer range Anubis Mummify
with a 75 Unit, 8 direction dash attached to it'.
This spell has so many uses. It does heavy damage, it can be used to make picks, set up his other abilities, makes him impossible to catch or lock down, allows him to juke other mages, it's unpredictable, it does heavy damage, secures kills, makes tea and cooks toast. This is also the spell that makes Glyph of Pain
placement so important, to ensure you can get off those long range dashes and stuns, since otherwise, like the rest of Thoth
's kit, it's short ranged and not the best ability.
You max this second. Having access to a shorter cooldown on this spell is crucial for Thoth
, allowing more dashes, more stuns, and more opportunities to use this spell aggressively without being severely punished. A lower cooldown on this spell also allows him to keep his distance much more efficiently.
Since Patch 5.6, Evade and Punish
has been nerfed so that the dash cooldown only starts once you have fired a stun. This means that you can no longer hold onto a stun, or time your dashes in such a way that you can get two stuns in the space of 2.2s with max CDR, Evade and Punish
is still one of the best mage abilities in the game, nothing compares to the versatility of this spell.
Ability 3: Glyph of Pain
From his book, Thoth conjures forth a Hieroglyph in front of him. Thoth's ability projectile passing through the glyph receive increased damage, and a range increase of 30.
Thoth and allies Basic Attack projectiles receive a reduced damage bonus, but no range increase.
Ability Bonus Damage: 15/25/35/45/55 (+5% of your magical power)
Basic Attack Damage: 10/15/20/25/30 (+5% of your magical power)
Cooldown: 5 seconds
Cost: 25/30/35/40/45 mana
The glue that holds Thoth
's kit together. A lot of mastering Thoth
's kit is mastering the placement of this window. Without this ability, Thoth
is low range and low damage, but with this ability, he's the ranged nuke monster we all know and love. This ability is low cooldown and low mana cost, so you can use it often.
The downside is, it completely telegraphs where you will attack from, making it really easy to dodge Thoth
's attacks. The way to work around this is to play around walls as much as possible; and fire your [Hieroglyphic Assault]] and Final Judgement
through them; even your stun goes through the wall (although the dash itself of course doesn't, though its range is augmented by the glyph). Fortunately Hirez have helped with this, and you can place a Glyph of Pain
either behind a wall or actually inside the wall to fire your abilities through, to ensure enemies get as little warning as possible that you are attacking.
Because everything is augmented by it, you need to fire everything, including your dash, through the Glyph of Pain
. Thoth's Hieroglyphic Assault
especially is incredibly reliant on this. The glyph adds 15% scaling in total (that's a lot!).
In addition, this really helps with objective push. Place this in front of a tower or a Gold Fury and this adds so much extra damage to the damage you and your hunter can pump out. Although it doesn't increase your basic attack's range, the damage increase is very significant. Not much more to say, a lot of mastering this ability comes with practice.
Ultimate: Final Judgement
Thoth conjures a large glyph from his book, and then inscribes three more at its corners. When all four have been summoned, he sends them forward damaging all Enemies in their path.
Thoth may activate this ability again to fire the ability early, doing a reduced amount of damage based on the number of glyphs currently summoned. Alternately he may cancel this ability at a cost of 30 mana.
Damage (fully charged): 360/430/500/570/640 (+100% of your magical power)
Cooldown: 90 seconds
's big money ult. This thing is the simplest ability on Thoth
's kit, he charges it up, fires it forward, and it does **** tons of damage to everything it hits. Simple. In early this will deal hefty damage, in late game, this is a legitimate oneshot on many squishies. It's an instant burst of 695+105% damage on squishies from miles away, that's nearly much as a He Bo Crushing Wave
, except this travels for 130 units and goes through walls. Yeah. Three things to keep in mind:
1. FIRE THIS THROUGH THE Glyph of Pain
. It adds range, damage and scaling to the ultimate. It doesn't say it in the tooltip but this ult if firing through the glyph will hit way harder and from much further away. So use your 3 then charge the ult.
2. This is a charge up move. You can cancel this before you fire. This can be used to create a lot of mind games with opponents and bait out relics and escapes. The downside of this is that it's super telegraphed and the charge up can be interrupted by CC, so you want to be as far away as possible while charging this. The best case scenario is to fire it through a wall so the ult is hard to predict, but this isn't always possible.
3. Try to co-ordinate this with your team's CC moves - it's one of the hardest moves to hit on its own due to the long charge up time. This comes with practice and experience, but communicate with your team, try to predict when your jungler will use CC moves on the opponent and gank. It's crucial since this is the lynchpin of Thoth's kit and the best move in his arsenal.
This is also incredibly powerful at securing and stealing objectives. I can't count the amount of times I have stolen an objective as Thoth
and snowballed the game from there. This comes with practice but learn the damage of the move and then try to last hit objectives with it in casuals. It's a massive part of Thoth
and a big reason he's such a good mid laner.
One last thing - a few months ago, this was buffed to do more damage when uncharged (although the overall scaling was nerfed, uncharged it does more damage now). Although you will want to charge this up in teamfights, behind walls or to secure objectives, a quick ult can actually be quite a powerful finisher, making Thoth
's Level 5 suprisingly potent for such a late game focused god. Just be mindful when doing this.
No brainer. Adds a ton of bonus damage to your abilities, gives early CDR and gives mana sustain. These are all AMAZING for the laning phase. The bonus damage is disgusting on Thoth
. You can proc this twice with your 3+1, and even three times if you time your glyphs. This substantially improves Thoth's Level 3-7 clear, along with the base damage buff, which makes him a power pick in Season 5, since it mitigates a lot of his early game weakness. Just another reason to play Thoth
The T1 Item - Depends on the build you are going (More on this later):
Build 1 - Uncommon Staff
You build this T1 item since it builds straight into Warlock's Staff
, gives an okay amount of power, and also gives 75 health making you a bit tougher to kill in the early game. Bear in mind that this doesn't give any mana sustain or bonus mana, meaning you need to play smartly with your Hieroglyphic Assault
in the very early levels.
Build 2 - Spellbook
The second best of all the starting options, the issue is that it builds into Book of Thoth
and not Warlock's Staff
. It has a good amount of early power and mana to use abilities with, but if you start this you need to be going Book of Thoth
Build 3 - Lost Artifact
The best starting option out there, the downside of it being that it doesn't build into a stacking item. Still if you want to go Chronos' Pendant
first and forgo stacking, this is what your going. 20 early power plus MP5 for sustain is always nice, plus it leaves enough for 3 Health and 3 Mana potions.
Bancroft's Start - Tiny Trinket
If you want to start Bancroft's Talon
for whatever reason, you're going this? Why? It builds directly into Bancroft's Talon
and gives power to boot. It lacks mana sustain but you get room for 2 mana potions anyway so that shouldn't matter too much. The issue with this is that magical lifesteal isn't that useful on Thoth compared to mages like Anubis
If you have an odd number of potions, go one more Healing Potion
than [Mana Potion, if it's an even number, go an equal amount of both. Your mana sustain from Mage's Blessing
is beastly, so it's better to get more health to survive poke damage better, allowing you to stay in lane longer, giving you more gold on your first back, and allowing you to hit your mid game spike sooner.
The 3 Builds for Thoth:
Okay, so as of now (12/05/18), you have 3 builds to choose from in general - first off, you have a Warlock's Staff build - stack your Warlock's Staff then build into power, penetration and all that good stuff. The next is a Book of Thoth build, sacrificing in survivability but making for it in terms of raw power and a bit more early game prowess. The third build is a build that doesn't require stacking, prioritising an early Chronos' Pendant rush for a powerful mid game powerspike, in exchange for the sheer value a stacking item would provide. With that being said, let's get right into it!
Build 1 - Warlock's Staff
Start with Uncommon Staff
as your T1 item. After your Shoes of the Magi
(Pen Boots are a essential purchase in any Thoth build, don't go CDR Boots if you want to be relevant in the early game), build into Warlock's Staff
- Warlock's Staff
is one of the best mage items in the game - while it is weak in the early/mid game (and this is an important consideration), when completed, the sheer amount of power, health and mana this thing provides is amazing. After Warlock's Staff
, you're going to want to go into Spear of Desolation
- this item is amazing on any burst mage, and Thoth is no exception - the combination of high power, penetration and cooldown reduction is unparraled, making this a strong pick-up. After this go into Soul Reaver
- yet another one of the best mage items in the game, offering a brilliant whack of power, a great tank busting passive and even some mana for 2650 gold - insane value for such a powerful item - I would recommend going this in every game. Soul Gem
is your fifth item - while the stats aren't the best in the world the empowered burst this thing provides to your abilities is ridiculous, making this a lovely item for full burst mages like Thoth
- no squishy can live through a Final Judgement
empowered by Soul Gem
and Soul Reaver
. Finish off on a Chronos' Pendant
, providing a good whack power along with even more CDR for more big juicy ultimates and 1s to annihilate squishies with.
This is my personal favourite build - while in the past I have slated Warlock's Staff
, as time has gone on I have appreciated just how good this item is. While this build does have a weak early game and doesn't give as much power to Thoth
's strong mid-game power spike than other builds do, when this build hits later in the game it is monstrous - it gives everything - survivability, damage, CDR, offence and defence. If you want to
Build 2 - Book of Thoth
. Build straight into Shoes of the Magi
then get your Book of Thoth
ready for stacking - Book of Thoth
gives the most power of any item in the game when stacked, along with plenty of mana to spam your abilities with - the issue is that this gives no survivability, but the stacks are less important than on Warlock's Staff
, making this better in the early game, while a bit outclassed in the late game. After this, it's the same as the Warlock's build - Spear of Desolation
for penetration, power and CDR, Soul Reaver
for raw power and a burst passive, Soul Gem
for eye-watering burst damage, and Chronos' Pendant
for power and CDR.
This is slightly out-done by Warlock's Staff
in the current meta, but is still a cracking build - what you give up for in survivability, you make up for in the fact that this build doesn't take as long to come online. However, there is still a slight stacking time, and you will be ultra squishy without the health from Warlock's Staff
, which be an issue against characters like Thor
. It's a decision you have to make as to whether you want more damage and more mid game, or marginally less damage but more survivability at the cost of your mid game.
Build 3 - No Stacks! Chronos Pendant
Probably the jankiest looking build on here, this doesn't use a stacking item. When I previously said Chronos' Pendant
was a sixth item pickup I was kind of lying - it is... if you are stacking - you just need over items more. Without a stacking item however, you are free to go this first and rape the enemy mid laner, as while he's stacking his Warlock's Staff
, you've got 100 power and 20% CDR off the bat, with a cooldown reducing passive - you're good to go! This build is great from behind or in matches where you know stacking won't be feasible, or where you just want to hit 40% CDR asap and roam around the map ulting everyone. This gives you access to the best sustain in laning as well, making it viable against tough matchups like Isis
where the enemy will just look to shove you in and poke you out.
Start Lost Artifact
. Build into Shoes of the Magi
for early pen. Rush Chronos' Pendant
for the power and CDR. Then build into Spear of Desolation
- at this point, you will have max CDR thanks to Mage's Blessing
, about 30 pen and 250 power! Not bad! You then will want Soul Reaver
for the raw power this thing gives (and the value of it), Soul Gem
for the burst and the fact that it means you can have 40% CDR without Mage's Blessing
, and you're going to want to finish on perhaps the jankiest item here - Shaman's Ring
- I am a huge fan of this item - 100 power (pretty good), movement speed (pretty good) and a beastly passive on Thoth
thanks to his Hieroglyphic Assault
that allows you to do 1200 per 1. Nice. The passive on this will also come online very soon thanks to the fact that you're spells will all do stupid damage by this point anyway.
Other Power Items You Can Use
Cheap and early power. Also very good on double lifesteal builds - this is an item you can viably rush early, the issue is that it's not the best on Thoth
because lifesteal in general isn't the best stat on Thoth
- however, you can go a double lifesteal build with this and Typhon's Fang
and it works don't get me wrong, the power it provides is bonkers, the issue is that all it provides is lots of power, and by that point you're better off stacking. Even if you don't stack, for 400 gold more you can get Chronos' Pendant
which gives 100 power but also has CDR and MP5 on it. While yes, Bancroft's has a great passive, in practice, it's a bit redundant since if you're on say, 50% HP as Thoth
you're probably going to die anyway, and that extra power isn't really much use then - you could have CDR from Chronos' Pendant
to have Evade and Punish
up more often, or health from Warlock's Staff
to buy you some time until Evade and Punish
. Still though, it's something you can use.
Book of the Dead
Since its nerfs, this is an item built solely for survivability - you will sacrifice damage by going this, but if you're against say, a Susano
or Hun Batz
who can stick on you through everything, CC you and burst you down, the shield here can absolutely save your ***. Still though, this now isn't a core item and is something you need to think about whether you need - although the stats and passive certainly are nice, as is the fact that this synergises beautifully with both Book of Thoth
and Warlock's Staff
- you could build this every game and be happy with it, but unless you're against direct counters to Thoth
like the aforementioned assassins, you'll be more happy sticking to Soul Gem
or Soul Reaver
It's a great bridge item. I mean it's just cheap power that gives more power if you happen to be in a laning enviroment, but whatever, for 1700 gold, it could be worse. The issue with is, for near the same gold, you could upgrade Spellbook
to Book of Thoth
which is an objectively much better item. However, if you want to start Mage's Blessing
+ Lost Artifact
instead of Spellbook
for more MP5, you could do worse than Doom Orb
. The issue is you're delaying a core power item if you do this, or even giving it up in certain scenarios. Even since the buff in 5.4, I believe this still isn't a core item - you're better saving your gold to get a bigger power spike, but there is certainly viability to be found here - it's something I have personally tested out and found myself liking.
It certainly has it's uses. It counters health stacking HARD with it's passive, gives decent power, gives survivability with its health and CCR, and it's decently priced! So why isn't built all of the time? It just gets outclassed by other items unfortunately - Soul Reaver
gives more % health damage (granted on a much longer cooldown but Thoth
doesn't engage for extended periods of time anyway), Book of the Dead
gives the same health along with a shield, and by going this you're probably sacrificing the chance to go Spear of Desolation
or Chronos' Pendant
, both beastly items. All of these items, by the way, give more power. So while this is a good item, there are other better items. However, this a great purchase against people that stack health, and a great purchase from behind since it gives survivability and non gold-dependent damage on its passive. You can fit in builds, and it's certainly not a bad item, but you're giving up something probably better to build it is what it boils down to.
Gem of Isolation
This one's interesting. This actually has a lot of viability on Thoth
because on top of your stun you'll get 85-unit slows from your Hieroglyphic Assault
. This sounds broken. It gives you easy shots of your 1, allowing you to burst squishies more easily, or even kite tanks in select situations. It even gives a bit of health for survivability! So why is this situational? Because in 99% of situations you're better just getting some of the power items listed above, because chances are if a mid laner gets hit by a full Thoth combo they die anyway, which makes the slow irrelevant. And 90 power+slow isn't as good as 130+Soul Reaver passive, or 100+15 pen. With that being said if your team lacks some CC this is certainly an option, and is a worthwhile purchase. Other items are just better.
On well co-ordinated high end teams, you should pick this up every game. Second or third item. The extra power for your team wins games.
However, chances are you're not in these kind of games if you are reading this guide. This is a matter of preference in lower end, solo queue games because there is no guarantee that your teammates will not abuse the power from this item, and this only gives 70 power in comparison to Book of Thoth
which gives you like 110 power off the bat including the passive. If you don't have a good team just go for the bigboy power and penetration items, and delete the ADCs, assassins and mids before they get to duel your questionable team. Even boosted monkeys can win a 4v5 or 3v5 teamfight.
If you know you have a great jungler, ADC or solo laner, pick this up by all means, you're boosting what they can do. If not, it's up to you whether you build this, but then again, chances are you're best off just going as much burst as humanly possible.
Kinda cheating here because I did but this in a core build. Still, it's the most situational item there so I'm putting it in these 'Tier 2' kind of items. While I love this item, with the sheer power and movement speed it brings to the table for just 2400g, along with the fact that the passive once stacking is practically made for Hieroglyphic Assault
, the issue here is fitting it in. This can be a bit hard since while movement speed is an absolutely overpowered stat hence why everyone and their mother gets boots on every character in every game (get rid of boots Hirez and buff everyone's move speed by 15% and maybe we can see items like Shaman's Ring
and Atalanta's Bow
actually get play, but I digress), the issue is that it doesn't provide raw damage unlike say, Soul Gem
passive or Soul Reaver
, meaning you have to sacrifice something to go this. Still though, it's a great item and something you should at least give a try.
Essential on a double lifesteal build, and also good as a last power item instead of say, Soul Gem
if you don't want to play around Soul Gem
procs and just want more overall power. The issue is that a double lifesteal build isn't as viable on Thoth
as it is on, say, Anubis
, ruling out one use as a core item, and the other issue is that unlike Soul Gem
this thing doesn't give CDR, meaning you won't be hitting the 40% CDR cap at full build, unless you sell Shoes of the Magi
, and then you won't have enough pen, even with Dead Reckoning
! Plus we've already talked about how Thoth
doesn't make the best use of lifesteal, and this item is no exception. This item certainly does have viability in terms of the raw stats it provides but all it provides are stats, those aren't stats like CDR or pen, it's just power (granted power is good) and lifesteal (not the best on Thoth
specifically). It doesn't quite make the cut, therefore, as a core item, although it certainly has its uses.
Swap for Spear of Desolation
if they have healing that justifies picking this up ( Hel
and the like). If you are still reading, well done, you know something that other people who didn't read this far won't. :)
Dynasty Plate Helm
A good bridge item if their physical damage is starting to snowball. This can actually stop them in their tracks. Pick up second always, and sell if you get to 6 items.
got a big whack with the nerf bat this season. Why? Because Hirez hates % pen. It's now much worse against squishies. So why pick this up when it only gives 60 power? Well, it's simple. If you want to even touch tankier team comps, you will buy this item. Yes, you're already doing close to true damage to squishy targets with Shoes of the Magi
, Spear of Desolation
and your passive. But if someone builds one magic defense item and you don't have Obsidian Shard
, you won't damage them. It's as simple as that. While you ideally want to prioritise squishy characters, this isn't possible in all situations. In a teamfight, you need to identify and eliminate the biggest threat, and sadly, because base damage is busted in Smite and Hirez have stated that this intentional (sigh), that's often the tank in the middle of your team. Yes, they won't do as much damage as a hunter or mage, but they are still going to hurt (*cough* Artio
*cough* - one day that god will get nerfed... I hope).
Yes, I know, Obsidian Shard
is garbage. But if they have a tanky solo laner, support and jungler, it's a necessary evil.
Stone of Fal
The Banshee's Veil of Smite. If their Ra
, mirrored Thoth
or any nuke mage is getting fed, feel free to pick this up. 2500 gold for 70 power isn't the best in the world, but hey, this is a great **** you to a fed Scylla
who ults you only to realise '**** Thoth
has Stone of Fal
', only for you to kill her with a nice 800 damage ult to the face. This only works into specific mages from behind but since the 200 gold buff, it can be a very nice pick up.
Rod of Asclepius
If you have a really healing-heavy comp, Rod of Asclepius
actually has some viability as 75 power isn't too bad, and the healing you get from this will really compliment your team, however, this a niche situation. Hence, it's situational.
Shoes of Focus
You're just gagging to lose the early game by going this. Simple as that. There is a reason all of my builds have Shoes of the Magi
, and that's because Pen Boots are crucial for the early game. CDR is outweighed by penetration early game meaning that Pen Boots are pretty much a mandatory purchase if you want to keep up in damage. The reason that it's situational is because in late, if for some reason you don't have max CDR (even though with Chronos' Pendant
, Soul Gem
and Spear of Desolation
you should), you could sell Shoes of the Magi
to get these and potentially pick up an Obsidian Shard
, Spear of the Magus
or Divine Ruin
to make up for your missing pen.
Spear of the Magus
There's not much room to fit this in, but now buying this won't actively hurt your tower push, upping it's viability a bit. Then again if you need two penetration items as Thoth, you're probably going to need Obsidian Shard
to actually scratch tanks and Obsidian Shard
only gives 5 less power.
Attack Speed Thoth
is garbage. Also none of his abilities proc this.
Thoth's abilities don't proc this, and you don't ever want to be in auto attack range after Level 3.
Attack speed Thoth
is terrible. I just need to reiterate that. No, the Glyph interaction doesn't make it viable.
Rod of Tahuti
Ohhh, the big one. The one I have been looking forward to writing about! Rod of Tahuti
. Previously the very best mage item in the game, Hirez have decided to entirely rework and buff mage itemisation as a whole (despite the fact old Rod was my favourite item in the game I actually like this, I will add, new mage items feel so good, there is a lot more choice and decision making now) so that they could nerf this damned thing. I've decided to put this garbage section after much consideration. You may be thinking - 'Xeno. WTF?' when I say this - hear me out! This is basically a 'win harder' item. When I say this I mean, this isn't the item that is going to win you the game when you pick this up, unlike Book of Thoth
, Chronos' Pendant
, or Spear of Desolation
. Because the passive was nerfed so hard, it's basically 'if you already have enough damage to get people to half health with one spell, or have enough gold to afford this outside of your 5th or 6th item, then ta-da pick this up and snowball the game even harder'. But why would I do this when I could buy one of the other aforementioned items for a cheaper and better power spike? It's the same problem that Spear of Desolation
had in Season 3. As much as I hate Warlock's Staff
for being a stat stick, I can see the viability. With this, it's just a trash item that hinders your build. Avoid this.
Thoth's Abilities Part 2: Tips and Tricks
Thoth isn't really a combo character. He's less about combos and much more about augmenting his abilities with his 3. The main combo you will doing is stunning with your 2 through your 3 then following up with shots of your 1. Thoth is much more about generally playing safe in the early game (we'll have a whole section on this later), predicting enemy movement and removing key targets. He's not really a character who requires much in the way of matchup knowledge. With that being said, I think it's important to have another more advanced section on Thoth's abilities here, since using these is what gives Thoth such a high skill cap. There's a lot more to explain here than there would be for someone like Agni or Ra who generally have more simple abilities. So here's a list of tips for using Thoth's abilities.
Passive: Dead Reckoning
Not much to say here, other than to ensure that this is stacked as much as possible. If you can't get kills, still make sure you get the stacks for this passive. The Penetration is a big damage boost.
Ability 1: Hieroglyphic Assault
Quite a self-explanatory ability honestly, it's Thoth's main damage (this makes up like 50% of his damage). Some of these tips will seem quite obvious as a result. But these are some tips I can give.
- Always fire these shots through your 3 ALWAYS. It adds 15% scaling throughout the ability, a lot of base damage (165 at max rank) and significantly boosts the range.
- Learn to predict enemy movements. This is vital to ensure you are dealing the damage on these shots. Once someone gets hit by this they will panic and put juke shoes on; the good news is these projectiles are HUGE and travel pretty quickly. Put them in the centre of the shots and it will be quite hard for them to dodge without significantly hindering what they are doing.
- Fire these shots through walls (I mean actual walls, as well your 3). They go a very long distance and do a **** ton of damage. As with the rest of Thoth
's abilities, they allow you to take advantage of the map itself, particularly, and win teamfights without even being there.
- Learn the range of this ability! You want to landing max range shots of this, it will net you a lot of kills.
- When you use this ability, you have a decision - unload on one target or spread these shots out to multiple people for less damage. My personal inclination in fights is to unload this onto priority targets but the damage you can spread in teamfights with this can swing fights. A lot of this comes down to the situation at hand and your personal playstyle and will come to you as you play Thoth
, but it's worth keeping in mind.
- This ability comes with the Hastened Ring
effect, so you can juke and move around while firing these shots. This throws people off a lot more than you would think.
Ability 2: Evade and Punish
This ability is what separates good Thoth players from great ones. It's a super powerful tool but has a ton of uses and a lot of decision making involved.
- First off, the biggest decision in Thoth
's kit. Do you want a short dash but a long ranged stun, or a long dash with a short stun? In general, for an escape, placing the Glyph of Pain
then dashing is the way to go, but sometimes that 85 unit stun is more useful (this would of course mean placing the Glyph pf Pain after dashing). Of course, as we will get to later, with good Glyph management, you can get both the long dash and the long stun!
- You can place the Glyph of Pain
at your feet (casting it right over your model) then dash away for a quick escape - very obvious but this is how you will get your long range dashes off a lot of the time. This has the advantage of not telling your enemy where you will dash to, as once it is at your feet, you will get a maximum distance dash no matter which direction Evade and Punish
is casted in.
- You can also place a glyph about 25 units away in the direction you want to dash for an easy 85-unit stun as opposed to 55-units, however, this HEAVILY telegraphs where you will go, so keep that in mind.
- This is a very powerful juking tool, even without the glyph. This goes in 8 directions making it very hard to predict. This gives Thoth
beastly matchups against gods like Anubis
. He can easily dodge their key skillshots then punish with an 85 unit stun nuke to the face.
- Despite the first part being a dash, this skill works wonderfully through walls. If you feel safe enough, you can use a short dash into a wall, and send an 85 unit stun through the wall. This takes practice, but once you've got it down, a good stun can straight up win a game. 285+65% is a lot of damage in the late game.
- This skill can be a powerful tool for getting picks with your jungler. Thoth
's insanely long ranged stun gives him some of the best jungler interaction in the game; Thoth stun sets up junglers like Thanatos
and Ne Zha
insanely well. There is not a single jungler that doesn't pair well with Thoth
- This skill is great for ganking side lanes - Skadi
will be minding her own business, being annoying as usual, when suddenly she takes a stun to the face followed up by Rama
's Astral Strike
's Hieroglyphic Assault
, a Bacchus Belly Flop
and a Mjolnir's Attunement
double tap from Thor
- not even Kaldr can save Skadi
_ With a bit of CDR, Thoth
can dash through a glyph, hold onto the stun, place another glyph then fire the stun.
- You will often use this spell for damage, however doing so comes at the cost of using your escape, making it quite high risk. It's up to you to choose whether you want to play more aggressively, using your 2 to rack up the kills and deal more damage in fights, or passively, using your dash defensively so you can play more around poking enemies as opposed to securing kills.
- This spell gives Thoth
some of the best chase potential of any mage. A long ranged dash followed by a long stun can cover a total of 160 UNITS. This is insanely strong, and combined with his ult, Thoth
can really punish enemies who decide in stay in lane at low health.
- With Patch 5.6, another decision comes into play in Thoth
's kit - do you want to hold on to the stun to potentially have time to aim it and set it up with a glyph? Or do you want to fire the stun straight away, as the cost of accuracy and potentially range, in exchange for having your dash up again sooner?
- A point I should add is that you can fire the stun through the same glyph you dashed through even if you do use the Glyph of Pain
at your feet as opposed to a bit in front of you, however doing this requires you to move forward 20 units assuming you placed the glyph at your feet before dashing away. This can be quite risky, especially as now Evade and Punish
will not go on cooldown until you have fired that stun.
Ability 3: Glyph of Pain
This is what makes Thoth Thoth. With this spell, Thoth turns from a mage with average damage and a weak escape mechanic to a mobile ranged powerhouse of a mage. The vast majority of what makes Thoth such a high skill mage comes from this spell so let's get into it.
- This is obvious and I've said it a lot but always fire your abilities through this, including your dash, wherever you can. This boosts the damage and range of them significantly. The good news is that if any part of your ability at all touches the glyph it will gain the damage and range increase, so it's easy to do.
- Related to the last tip above, dashing in any direction and touching the glyph, no matter how little of the glyph you touch with any of the dash, will cause you to dash 75 units in that direction, meaning keeping track of your glyphs can make for very quick and easy escapes.
- Your glyph tells your enemy roughly where you will attack from, and that you are looking to attack. While this can be a disadvantage, this can be used to your advantage as well! You can put your glyph down activate your 1, wait a bit and get an idea of their movements allowing to aim your abilities better. Bear in mind your abilities have massive range so getting out of range will be difficult.
- Glyphs actually cover a small AoE, meaning you can place one at your feet while walking forward, then suddenly dash backwards 75 units. This little trick is insanely useful for escaping and is part of what makes good Thoths so hard to kill.
- Glyphs can be placed in walls, making them difficult to see for enemies, and ensuring they will not expect your abilities. This is part of what makes Thoth
so good in the jungle and at ganking - his incredible interactions with terrain and walls make him unpredictable and hard to get to.
- Glyph management is key to playing Thoth
. Glyph's have a base cooldown of 5s and a duration of 8s, meaning you can have 2 o the battlefield at any one time, with a potential of 3 with max CDR. Managing and keeping track of these glyphs is crucial. If you keep track of your glyphs, you can get very easy escapes and long range ults. Part of this is keeping track of where you place your glyphs. If you place them in walls, you won't get any dashes unless you placed the glyph in such a way that a dash could touch it.
- Related to the above, keeping track of WHEN you placed your glyphs is crucial. As time goes on, similarly to Thoth
's ranges, you will get used to the 8s duration of the glyph. Keeping track of when you placed glyphs is important because if you don't, it can lead to some rather embarrassing moments. Like firing your ult as the glyph disappears, leading to it not hitting anything.
- Last one, I promise! But don't ever underestimate how good Glyph of Pain
is at shredding objective. Every auto attack that fires through it (including your teammates' tanged auto attacks) gains decent extra base damage + 5% scaling - which also applies to towers. This makes Thoth
one of the best mages at taking objectives out there. Whenever you're attacking a tower with your team, put a glyph in front of that tower whenever you have it available and watch it fall.
Ultimate: Final Judgement
A rather powerful ultimate. It may just be damage, but boy does it do a lot of it! The fact that's it a charge up move means that this has a lot of depth to it but when used properly this is such a rewarding move.
- Fire this through the glyph! This ability is notorious for going really, really far but when not fired through the glyph it's about the same range as any other mage ultimate. The extra 10% scaling also makes this move a lot better.
- Related to this, fire this through walls! When you don't fire this through a wall, despite the length it goes, it is a really, really obvious move (this does, however, have advantages that we will get to later). Thoth
's ult noise is basically a meme by this point, he has to put the glyph down before charging it (telling enemies that 'HEY I'M GOING TO ATTACK') and he charges the ult for three whole seconds. Firing through a wall will mean the enemy team are much less prepared for it.
- Because of the sheer distance this thing travels, and the damage it deals, this is an amazing move for stealing objectives. At higher levels, enemy teams straight up will not do an objective until Thoth
is dead, because Final Judgement
is probably the best move in the game for stealing objectives (apart from maybe Janus
ult). It goes really far (further than even Ra
's ult), is an instant hit of damage, and unlike a Kukulkan Spirit of the Nine Winds
or Vulcan Earthshaker
there isn't a targeter saying where it will land. If there is an objective that can be stolen, try to steal it! A lot of this comes with practice but there is no better feeling in the game than taking that Fire Giant.
- This move is also decent for securing objectives as well. Not as good as an Isis
ult since Final Judgement
is much more about the range and the instant hit than the raw damage numbers, but this is still a key move for ensuring your team gets the objective.
- This is a charge-up move. Like I mentioned earlier, this make Final Judgement
an incredibly obvious move, however, this also means that you can cancel it! This allows you to play mind games with your opponents. Something that you will get used to when playing Thoth
is suddenly cancelling this at the last second (I say this as a figure of speech). This allows you to bait out escapes like Path of Flames
, Aegis Amulet
, and untargetable spells like Divebomb
. Bear in mind this does cost 30 mana however.
- As this is a charge-up move, anticipating not just what your enemies will do, but what your allies will do, is crucial. A fully charged Final Judgement
is a devastating follow-up to say, a Ymir Frost Breath
or Athena Confound
. A lot of this comes with practice but always be mindful of this.
- While in late game and at objectives charging this move up all the way is imperative, in early game or when looking to just secure a kill, you can fire this early. The uncharged damage at 60 or 80% (depending on how long you charged it) is a lot higher than you would initially think. Whether you want to do this or not, is up to you). Remember that the Glpyh damage is the same no matter how far you charge the ult.
- Try to hit this on as many people as possible in late game, even if it doesn't net you a kill. Hitting a Thoth
ult on 2 or 3 people can straight up win you a game since your team (and you for that matter) can clean up before they can retaliate.
Phases of the Game
Disclaimer: This is for Conquest!
Just survive. It's that simple. Don't try to make fancy plays, invade or anything like that unless the enemy really ****s up, and I mean really ****s up. At Level 1 you're like the worst god in the game for very obvious reasons, you have no range, no control, no AoE, no instant damage. At Level 2 you'll either only have 55 range or you won't have an escape depending on which spell you took.
You're in a better position now, but you still have to play quite passively. With that being said, you'll have a decent amount of poke, a good escape and at Level 5 there's actually some kill potential to be had. However, you are nowhere near the best god at this point, and should still be cautious.
Your first big power spike! Congratulations! At this point you should have 4 points in your 1 and your first item. You're not as aggressive as a Poseidon
or something would be at this point but you now can full clear a wave from very long distances and your poke is now something to be feared. While you're nowhere near at your full power levels, you now should have a pretty easy ride to late game. Typically junglers will be looking to gank your lane or fight at this point, because Thoth
's Level 7 and 9 are really good should you play your cards right. Try to pick up a couple kills at this point, get some passive stacks, and get the snowball rolling.
This is where Thoth
becomes really scary. At this point, you should have your first big power item, for instance, Book of Thoth
and Shoes of the Magi
or nearly be there. While your lane kill potential is a bit smeh (you don't have an instantaneous burst combo like a Poseidon
), your gank potential is TERRIFYING. You have insanely high ranged abilities, can fire everything through walls and insane poke - if ever the ADC overextends, go to that lane and punish them for it. Thoth
's roams at this point in the game are ****ing disgusting, and his objective potential is second to none - this what you should be taking advantage of, and this is what's going to transition into that signature Thoth
Levels 13-15: Thoth
's Level 13-15 are really good. This the mid-late game, and is where the transition happens. At this point you'll have maxed out your 2 and your 1 and have three points in your ultimate, and will be at 2 1/2 or 3 items. At this point in the game you hit really hard. Your poke is a lot to deal with honestly, since you'll now have the items to really start abusing those scalings. Your roams are still fantastic but now is the point where the teamfighting starts to begin, and this is where Thoth
really shines. In my opinion, this late-mid game point is Thoth
's strongest point in the game. Basically, Thoth
gets to his god phase sooner than the late game AoE monster mages ( Scylla
, Discordia, etc.), and while his god phase isn't quite as good as theirs, he more than makes up for it by the fact he gets to his strongest point sooner, allowing him to exert more pressure in things like early Fire Giant fights. Plus he's no slouch in late either.
's goal in teamfights is to apply constant pressure and as much damage to squishy targets as possible. Honestly it's quite simple and there's not really much to explain, prioritise either squishy targets or people who overextends, try to hit big ults, use your ult to try and steal Fire Giants and the like, use your Glyph of Pain
for objective push, stay safe and set up picks with your 2. That's it, Thoth
is one of those gods where it's much more about the execution than anything else, what he's meant to do is honestly really simple, it's pulling it off. By this point, you'll have a lot of items and points in your abilities so your damage will be nuts. Thoth
's range is such a massive boon in the late game. The downside here is that what Thoth
has in range, he sacrifices in AoE, so gods like Scylla
will be a bit stronger at this phase of the game in teamfights. You have to play intelligently to have an impact as Thoth
in teamfights, aiming your abilities well and from a max distance - the reward for this is that if you land your ****, you can instantly delete someone from the fight, making it a 5v4, which you can snowball into a straight-up win. No other mage has this pick potential, bar like Ao Kuang
, but he needs to get close - Thoth
has the best range in the game!
Mid Lane Matchups!
Agni - Hard
This matchup is in Agni
's favour. In order to win against Agni
you really need to play around his ranges. He is another artillery mage, he has more area of effect damage than you but slightly less range. He has better waveclear, and comes online earlier than you. He's also safe, just like you. The idea is to stay unpredictable in your movements and ensure you always have your dash should you need to dodge his bombs. As soon as you see a Rain Fire
bomb on you, that's it, you're immediately going to need to Evade and Punish backwards
before the bomb lands, since Agni
can't physically stun with Noxious Fumes
you until it lands. You're never going to be able to kill a good Agni
, unless your jungler can really punish Agni
's terrible Levels 1-4. Something I like to do against Agni is take my [Glyph of Pain]] at Level 2. The reason for this is that Agni has very unsafe wave clear until he gets his Rain Fire
. He will either need to walk in melee range to use Flame Wave
, or will need to walk right up to you in order to clear the wave with Path of Flames
- during this time Agni is incredibly susceptible to being poked down by your Hieroglyphic Assault
, and gaining this range advantage as soon as possible helps in this matchup for that reason alone.
However if you can survive until Level 7, he doesn't have much kill potential on you either, but you need to respect his burst combos. If you get hit by Rain Fire
this matchup can turn nasty very quickly against a good Agni.
Ah Puch - Easy
Another of my favourite gods, Thoth
hard counters Ah Puch
. He doesn't have any mobility to dodge your spells, an auto attack through your Glyph of Pain
oneshots corpses before Ah Puch can eat them with Hollow Ground
or blow them up, and your Evade and Punish
allows you to avoid his Corpse Explosion
really easily. The only thing to be careful of is that in the early game an Ah Puch Undead Surge
has a 6s lower cooldown than your dash, so be sure to stay at max range until your 2 comes back up. Then again that combo blows half of his mana and won't be oneshotting you until the late game anyway. A very easy matchup.
Anubis - Easy/Medium
Difficulty: 6/10 if inexperienced on Thoth, 2/10 otherwise
This is a matchup that really tests your ability to survive Levels 1-2, abuse your 85 range, and dodge skillshots with your 2. In other words, it tests how good you are at Thoth
. If you know how to pilot Thoth
well, there's absolutely nothing Anubis can do against you unless you really **** up or he has a really on point jungler. If you're not used to Thoth
's kit, this matchup becomes a lot more difficult since Anubis
will really punish your mistakes.
can stay out of range of Anubis
' kit really easily, Anubis
has no mobility to dodge your damage, and even if Anubis
gets in range Thoth
has the mobility to get away. The only difficult part about this matchup will be that Anubis SHOVES you under turret in the early game because of his incredible waveclear because his Plague of Locusts
will full clear a wave at Level 1 but if you can survive to the point where you have serviceable long ranged clear you'll be good to go. However, if you ever do get in range of Anubis
and you don't react fast enough with Evade and Punish, you're probably going to either have to use your Purification Beads
(always take these at Level 1 against Anubis), or you're going to die, since the damage from Grasping Hands
and Death Gaze
will be enough to melt you down, and you won't have time to go for a long dash once Anubis
has you. Remember that without your dash you are both squishy and slow. This is why kiting and familiarity with Thoth
is so crucial in this matchup. Also don't go for stupid plays, since Anubis
has great sustain with Sorrow
- just play cautiously until teamfights.
Aphrodite - Easy
(As someone who used to play a lot of Aphro this is the superior card art)
She has no kill potential on you whatsoever. You have little on her as well thanks to Love Birds
and Undying Love
, but every jungler, even if you don't tell them to, will focus the ever living **** out of an Aphrodite
, making her a really easy matchup.
Her clear with Love Birds
is a bit better than yours and her ult can **** you over at times but that's it, it's not like she can use any of this to her advantage in lane, since her kill potential is non-existent, she's slow and she's squishy.
Chang'e - Easy
Same as Aphrodite
. No kill potential, but every jungler will focus her to hell and back. A bit harder than Aphrodite since her spells can't be dodged and she's hard to hit thanks to Jade Rabbit
and Moonlit Waltz
but her range is terrible, so if you play well you won't have an issue here.
Chronos - Easy
An interesting matchup. He has more early clear than you but it blows through his mana pool. His poke is decent with his Time Rift
but you can dodge his Stop Time
really easily, meaning that he doesn't have much kill potential on you. Snowballing on him is quite hard because of his ult making him hard to kill, and his Quadrant 1 heal from Accelerate
is actually pretty good at countering your poke.
Overall this is quite an easy lane. What gives this the 4/10 rating, making it nearly a skill matchup is that Chronos
WANTS a farm lane because he's the hardest carry in the game arguably, he's a very safe laner and wants to get to late game thanks to his insane power scalings and his Time Lord
free power. You really want to force him behind honestly, and that's going to take ganks onto Chronos
, using your CC and damage in an optimal manner so he can't get his ultimate off. Late game you can do your thing against him, poke him out with your 3+1 so he can be killed, but his insane AA damage, high ability scalings, crazy ult and bonkers objective push make him quite hard to deal with, so you really need co-ordination to specifically put him behind.
Discordia - Easy
Difficulty - 3/10
Right so Discordia
is pretty broken right now (I used to think she was quite bad but as time has gone on and people have learnt to use her. more this character is disgusting), but as Thoth
, you counter her! Hooray!
The main thing is you outrange her hard. You out-poke her, you can avoid the second part of Unruly Magic
easily, you can dodge her spells with your dash even when rooted (since Strife
doesn't cripple, and unless you're clumped out she won't ever get Madness on you). It's hard for Discordia
to hit a 2-1 combo onto you just because you have an instant dash. Don't bother to put the glyph down in this matchup, dash out of the 2 then stun her and unload as much as humanly possible onto her. Ask for ganks since your 2 will always bait out Discordia
's Erratic Behavior
, making her a hilariously easy gank and giving you outrageously easy kills onto her. While her Golden Apple of Discord
hits hard and can turn fights, it's a very easy move to dodge if you pay attention, with a very slow travel time.
What makes this a 3/10 matchup is that if she does catch in any of her kit, you WILL die, so you need to be very conservative with your dash, but if you are then congrats you've won. Also her stealth can be annoying but it's the only mobility she has, making her a really easy gank on top of her complete lack of pressure onto you. The late game will be hard since she blow your whole team up with 2-1-4, but if you got ahead she won't ever get to that point anyway since you'll blow her up again and again. If you play this matchup well it's a hard counter.
Freya - Easy
On the off chance that you go against a Freya
mid (it's coming back recently.. somewhat. And for it's worth I think she works better in mid than ADC since she doesn't need to box before she gets three items in mid), you honestly counter her pretty hard. She has no kill potential on you at all in the early game, and miraculously, you outclear her! Even as Freya
gets stronger, you're still fine, since she won't be able to hit you with any of her kit at all, you just outrange her so unbelievably hard.
If your jungler is halfway decent, you'll be able to put her decently behind. You must make sure you put her behind, since 3-item Freya
is still 3-item Freya
and will still shred through everything if she isn't put sufficiently behind (and she only gets stronger from there).
Hades - Medium
Harder than you would expect actually! He doesn't have much kill potential on you at all if you play your cards right, since he's so close range. This matchup is really about abusing your 75-unit dash to avoid anything Hades
can do damage-wise.
Why is this not a 1/10 matchup then? Well first, really good Hades
players might buy Blink Rune
, Blink Rune
on you to bait out a short dash, then leap onto you with Death From Below
and use his combo. Ensure you are always dashing through a glyph, and that you are using that dash at necessary moments only. Do not be baited by Hades using Blink Rune
, if he is good, he will use Death From Below
to catch up to you then catch you in his Pillar of Agony
which will either mean that you use Purification Beads
or you die, but he can only do this if you don't dash through the Glyph of Pain to get the extra range on your escape. Secondly, Hades' early clear with Devour Souls
is really good. Like really good. You will get shoved under tower and get your jungle stolen when against a good Hades
, it's just going to happen. What's worse is that this clear comes with amazing sustain, meaning you can't poke him down since he's close range. You just have to ensure your jungler takes advantage of the fact Hades
has to blow his escape to instaclear a wave before Level 6. After this, you'll have your wave clear online anyway so can somewhat cope with his crazy push, but by this point he'll only need his Devour Souls
to clear, meaning he will typically be using Shroud of Darkness
to clear, so he will have his leap up pretty much all of the time. The third thing is that Hades
is tanky for a mage, meaning you can't really kill him on your own unless the Hades
****s up. You'll really need help from your team to kill him. Hades
will typically build like a bruiser and take actives appropriate to this like Bracer of Undoing
or Shield of Thorns
which completely **** you over.
Apart from these three very big considerations, this is a simple matchup but honestly not respecting Hades
can lead to you losing a game, hence why's he's Medium.
He Bo - Medium
Ah, the god of three ultimates. Your advantage is your insane range. His advantage is his burst and very easy poke. This would be an easy matchup if it weren't for the fact that if you slightly overextend you will lose like a quarter of your health to Water Spout and potentially get knocked into two more of He Bo
's ultimates (which hurt by the way), and there's nothing you can do about it.
You really need to take advantage of your ridiculous range in this matchup, and position well. Preventing a He Bo
snowball is honestly just as good as snowballing this matchup, since He Bo
is so reliant on getting fed, since his Water Cannon
and Crushing Wave
but requires him to get very close to his opponent as a super squishy mage. With that being said, He Bo can punish you for playing too aggressively very hard, so you're going to need ganks in this matchup. If you get to late game without feeding He Bo
you can just poke him down to like 20% health before he can even combo anyone.
Hel - Hard
It's hard to die to Hel
early game, but honestly her free poke with Decay
, lane clear with Repulse
, CC cleanse ****blocks with Cleanse
, minion heals with Inspire
and sustain preventing you from doing anything will make you want to smash your head into a wall. That's not even mentioning her late game where she will draw out every fight to ridiculous lengths and stop anything from dying.
Buy Divine Ruin
, and ask your jungler to camp the ever living **** out of Hel
(he probably will anyway). If you can put Hel
behind enough she will be useless but putting her there will require a lot of babysitting.
Isis - Hard
is THE early game mid laner, and as such is a pain in the ***. She will either ABUSE YOU Level 1-3 or take all of your farm. After the brutal Level 1-3, assuming you don't get an Isis
snowball rolling, this matchup becomes somewhat easier, not that you should get complacent.
The key to this matchup is dodging that Spirit Ball
, so she can't follow up with Dispel Magic
to slow you and high damage Wing Gust
shots to do a huge chunk of health. Against a good Isis
this is nigh on impossible without using your escape at the 55 unit distance (before you get your Glyph) since you wont have boots if you're not using your Glyph of Pain
to clear. This is why the Level 1-2 against Isis is so hard, along with the fact that she outclears you hard with Wing Gust
, one of the highest damage Level 1 spells in the game. Once you have your glyph, play at max range, so you have plenty of time to dodge the Spirit Ball
If you survive the early game against Isis
, then congratulations, you've won! Isis
is super reliant on getting ahead early as every other mage offers more range or confirmable damage than her. That however is assuming you play very well in early game. Be wary of Circle of Protection
, since a good Isis
can use it to mitigate your damage, and also, Isis
will use this spell to take objectives early on since it is probably the best move in the game at securing objectives, ensure you ward up the area around the Gold Fury with both normal Ward
s and Sentry Ward
s as a team.
This matchup gets easier as the game goes on, hence why this a 9/10 as opposed to a 10/10 matchup. In late, if you can dodge max range Spirit Ball
doesn't do anything at all. Words cannot describe how hard you outscale her. It's just the brutal early game that makes this matchup so hard.
Janus - Medium
Standard farm lane skill matchup. There are a few things to keep in mind (as a Janus
player myself, these are kind of things I will be looking to do against Thoth
1. WATCH OUT FOR PORTALS FROM BEHIND! Your dash may be quick but it isn't CC immune! A good Janus
will place a Portal
behind you, then place a Threshold
on your feet to try and trick you into dashing directly backwards. If you do, you're going to take Threshold
scaling damage plus the full brunt of a Janus
1+2 combo which leads to a dead Ibis (you), and probably a dead ADC since that guarantees a roam for Janus
has a lot of mobility but only when near a wall. If he's not near a wall, Janus
is really easy to hit, he only has a speed boost. If Janus
gets too cocky he's really easy to kill.
3. Janus has to get close to the wave to clear it with Unstable Vortex
until Level 7, when he only needs one side of the move to full clear a wave. If he goes to hit the wave with both balls of his 2, poke him with Hieroglyphic Assault
in order to punish him for it, while still clearing your own wave.
will outroam you thanks to Through Space and Time
. This is a fact. When he ults, first off, call 'VBA' and 'VF2' in chat so they have a bit of warning. You're then going to need to make a decision as to whether you want to counter-gank, or whether you want to farm and push the lane. Now I'm not going to tell you what to do, since it's entirely dependent on the situation, but be aware that this is what will inevitably happen when against Janus
Kukulkan - Easy
This God is honestly so bad. He has no control to speak of, you won't ever get hit by his Whirlwind
unless you really **** up since it has a really long cast time, and his Spirit of the Winds is like the most telegraphed move in the game. His Slipstream
is a decent escape, but you have so much range that you can just hit him anyway.
The only thing making this a 2/10 matchup is that Kukulkan
's early clear is really good, especially at Level 1, it's better than Isis
' clear. But he can't do anything with that gold since all of his spells are just so easy to avoid.
Nox - Medium
is a really cool character with a lot of strengths but also exploitable weaknesses that you can play around. She has a bad early game like you, so you don't need to worry about getting shoved under turret. Your advantage in this matchup comes from your range. If you play around the maximum ranges of your abilities it's going to be really hard for her to get a combo onto you. Her advantages come from her control and her instantaneous burst. If you get caught in Nox's Siphon Darkness
, you can't rely on your 2 to dodge Shadow Lock
, you have to move in such a way that it's not easy for Nox to read you then hit the root, while at the same time you need to ensure you're not just juking inside of the silence until it blows up for ultimate level damage! This is why you need to play around your maximum range, if she hits a silence on you and you're in the edge, you can just walk out and even if she hits the Shadow Lock
after you've escaped Siphon Darkness
you've just avoided 60% of her damage about.
Always take Purification Beads
in this matchup first. It allows to you get out of a burst combo once every 2.6 minutes approximately, which is HUGE, since Nox
's combo isn't the easiest thing to land in the world. Granted, if she hits more than one combo every 2.6 minutes, you're in trouble, which is why you need to play around her ranges. And her cooldowns. Nox
is the most ability reliant character in the game, she can't even auto attack when she's comboing you.
Fun fact, if she silences you, you can still fire your 1 and 2, and these will go through the glyph so up until late, if she gets you in a combo and your beads are down, punish her! Bear in mind that you can't activate the abilities inside the silence, and these will be harder to hit since Nox
has no strafe penalty while you are rooted, but you can just about return the trade, since it doesn't disarm you!
One thing to keep a note of is that Nox
's Night Terror
reduces your damage by 40%. If Nox
hits you with this, you won't be able to return the trade. Just wait out the 5s, or if you're low return to base. In order to juke this, ensure that you're not hugging walls (since Nox
's ult explodes upon contact with a wall), and that you're not going to be at max range of the ult (since Nox
's ult explodes upon reaching max distance), Nox
's ult is easily dodgeable unless one of those two conditions is met, so ensure you aren't playing into her hands before going for the kill.
is a very safe character thanks to Shadow Step
, so really this will mostly be a farm lane, you just need to ensure that you are always on your toes so she can't **** you up with her 2+1 combo. If she can't root you inside the silence, then you'll be fine, since her ult isn't like yours where it hits for bonkers damage, it's much more about the utility, and her dash-pop out combo only works when she has a jungler to do it with.
Nu Wa - Easy
She won't ever get a minion stun with Shining Metal
on you unless you really **** up. You outdamage her throughout all phases of the game. The only difficult things about this matchup are her stealth juking with Mysterious Fog
(which you can wait out) and her strong wave clear. If she does get a minion stun on you this matchup can turn around in a heartbeat but you have so much range and strong mobility so that's not going to happen.
Poseidon - Hard
Ok, this is our counter. Everything about him ****s Thoth
over. His early clear is notoriously good, making it easy for him to shove you behind from the get go, and unlike Kukulkan
, if he catches you in that Whirlpool
(which is easy since Whirlpool
has a much shorter cast time than Whirlwind
), prepare to use your active or get blown the **** up before you can even do anything. He has a lot of movement speed thanks to Surging Tides and Trident
meaning he can juke you out well and out roam you 10/10 times. I mean that's it but those three things just completely **** Thoth
over as a character.
To win this, you need to use your actives wisely. Take Aegis Amulet
at Level 1 to avoid the inevitable Level 5 Release The Kraken!
Take Purification Beads
at Level 12 so you can get out of the Whirlpool
with Evade and Punish
before the Kraken connects. Poseidon
gets wrecked by actives and you need to take advantage of this.
Apart from this, you need to position flawlessly and take advantage of your range, making it as difficult for him to catch you in that Whirlpool
. You have more range than him but the movement speed means he can catch you by suprise, so always be wary. Rotate when he does, and try to counter-gank him - Poseidon
has one combo and that's it. After he uses that, he's actually really easy to punish.
Other than this - ASK FOR GANKS. Poseidon has no leap, dash, teleport, or stealth, he literally only has a speed boost, making him easy pickings for strong gankers like Thor
. His Whirlpool
is his clear but it's also his only proper self-peel since the Kraken stun or Tidal Surge
when not used with Whirlpool
is easy to dodge, so he opens himself up to ganks all of the time.
This is a pretty rough matchup but it's not completely impossible.
Ra - Easy
You can't kill him, he can't kill you in early. His early game clear from Celestial Beam
and his sustain from Solar Blessing
will be quite hard for you to deal with, but late game you deal more damage than him and from better range, so it evens out. Unless you mess up he doesn't have kill potential on you, his abilities are all very telegraphed and easy to dodge. However, his speed boost from Speed of Light
ensures you won't be getting damage off on him either.
He will be looking to gank you, since while in a 1v1 situation Ra's damage is hard to get off, Ra
's follow up to CC heavy junglers is beastly, every Thor
loves ganking for a Ra
, and not just for the damage, but Solar Blessing
gives healing and protections, so these strong early game assassins are able to commit even harder to you. However, your Thor
will also love ganking Ra
, since he's immobile, squishy and has little control, all he has is Divine Light
in the way of safety, giving Thoth
the slight edge in this matchup. Just be sure to not open yourself up to ganks.
Raijin - Medium
Difficulty: 5/10 (since the nerfs)
finally got nerfed! PRAISE BE TO THOTH!
This matchup got a lot easier since the nerfs. He's no longer the mage that completely dominates early game only to oneshot everything in late. He has been significantly nerfed, but you still need to be careful.
I will give a disclaimer - Raijin
is still a complete lane bully. He will kick your **** in Levels 1-7. His clear is weaker now but still strong thanks to Percussive Storm
- however, Levels 1-3, which used to be where Raijin
would go 'lol I win', it is substantially weaker - meaning if you don't **** up, you won't be at a huge deficit like you would be before, especially since Thoth
's clear was buffed significantly at the same point that Raijin
's was nerfed. His abilities are still easy to hit. He still punishes bad positioning hard since Raiju
is impossible to dodge and his Percussive Storm
is easy to hit, and he can always leap with Thunder Crash
to gapclose after your dash then follow up with Taiko Drums
. However, as long as you don't mess up, you will survive. The key is not ever to get in Raiju
range (which should be easy, since you're Thoth
and have the best range in the game). This is because Raiju
bounces are now significantly weaker, meaning if Raiju
bounces onto you from a minion, you won't just die like you would before the nerfs, since it does significantly less damage. His ult is still a threat, but he will have it up less often. 10s actually makes a world of difference, before it felt like he had this stupidly powerful ultimate up all of the time, but now the window where you can punish him for messing up an ult is much higher.
's late game was significantly nerfed from what it was. The Raiju
change was a massive nerf for the character, you can now just hide behind a tank and Raijin
will be a non-factor in teamfights. Raijin
lost a lot of his teamfight prowess with this change. Sure, there's his ult, but that will be up a lot less now. Play safe, and you will outscale him. He's pretty much just a lane bully now, and a worse lane bully than he was. With that being said, he's still a lane bully, so you need to still be careful.
Scylla - Medium
Skill matchup. I have 4k worshippers on Scylla
so I know this matchup pretty well. Scylla
has less range but better AoE and CC and a slightly better early game than you. However you have more range and dodge her spells better than she can you (provided you use your dash well).
You both have pretty much the same powerspikes and both have great escapes making it hard for either of you to die honestly. If she hits Sic 'Em
on you, she can very easily snowball this matchup since that will guarantee a Crush
, so always be on the lookout to dodge that spell and hide behind your minions. If she has a CC-heavy jungler like Thor
or Ne Zha
, do all in your power not to get ganked so that you won't get CCed into her damage.
On your side, should she look to fight and you use your dash to dodge one of her spells, hitting a stun on her will really ruin your day, and similarly, you should look to get ganks from your jungler so you can snowball this matchup instead.
Sol - Hard
This character is a nightmare for a roaming kill mage like Thoth
, hence why she's on hard. Because you're Thoth
she won't have much kill potential on you, but that won't matter with the sheer amount of clear, tower push and poke she has, which will force you behind anyway.
You also have no kill potential on her at all unless she's bad, because of her Disapparate
, which allows for some of the most ******** escapes you will ever see. Against Sol
, you just need to try to survive and not lose your tower (easier said than done). Don't ever try to fight her head on if you want to live, just abuse the fact that you outrange her and have a good escape.
An important side note - never roam unless you know Sol
is roaming too. You probably know why, but in case you don't, Sol
is capable of taking a tower in the mid game from one wave thanks to her Unstable Manifestation
, you NEVER want to leave her alone with a tower, especially after Level 12, where she can use Radiance
and get 80% of her passive straight off of the bat.
Bear in mind that her Disapparate
takes 3s to go into her 'get out of jail free' form, so try and get some nice ganks from your jungler and burst her before she goes into that form. Just don't ever expect to get a well-charged ult off on a Sol with half of a brain cell.
The good thing about the Sol
matchup is that all of her damage is very to easy to avoid as Thoth
. You typically won't be in auto range of Sol
anyway, meaning her damage and boxing potential from Unstable Manifestation
won't matter much. Her Stellar Burst
, while impossible to avoid if you are within like 60-70 units of Sol
, is very easy to dash away from with Evade and Punish
and can be dodged very easily provided you aren't near a wall or at max range. Speaking of easy to dodge, Supernova
is one of the most easily avoided moves in the game, so if you're paying attention, Sol
can't kill you. You just need to very mindful of Sol
's disgusting split push, objective control and escape potential. In late game, so long as you kite well, you can just poke Sol
out to ensure that she can do is just throw out her 2 and ult, and won't be getting in-hands off, similar to Chronos
The Morrigan - Medium
OK so The Morrigan
herself is quite easy to beat. Her clear from Dark Omen
isn't the best out there, so you'll have a pretty safe early game. Her stun from Deadly Aspects
is very obvious when not used with her stealth, and she doesn't have a dash or anything so she's easy to poke down. You need to be wary of her suddenly popping out of stealth from Confusion
and comboing you, but this usually doesn't do enough to kill you until quite late so you should be okay, and is easily anticipated by keeping a track of her movement in the lane in the early game.
What makes this relatively hard is Changeling
. Basically Thoth
gets hard countered by gods that can stick to him past his dash - think Thor
, those kind of characters. The Morrigan
can turn into these characters and completely destroy you if you're not careful. The key to beating The Morrigan
is ensuring you're making it hard for her to all-in you with that ult. You need to poke her down and be conservative with your escapes. Also take advantage of that stun of yours when she decides to get too frisky, it can be a very powerful disengage mechanic. Also bear in mind that The Morrigan
's ult is the longest cooldown move in the game until late game - if you know that move is down, punish her for it, take her jungle, roam to side lanes etc. The Morrigan
's base kit is really **** until like four items where a 2-1 combo will do a massive whack of your health, but before then it's quite bad.
Thoth - Free
LOL. You read my guide, now go **** him up. For maximum chances of victory, get a VEL macro.
In all seriousness, the better Thoth
will probably win, this is the epitome of a skill matchup.
Vulcan - Easy
Difficulty - 2/10
You have range advantage, which is huge against Vulcan
. Vulcan excels when enemies engage upon him because of his Inferno Cannon
, Magma Bomb
, however as Thoth
you won't ever be doing that, making his attacks really predictable. He deals less damage than you so even if he gets poke off on you, you will hit much harder. Your dash makes Earthshaker
very easy to avoid.
He has better wave clear than you, which can be hard in the early game, and he can punish your mistakes quite hard thanks to his damage and CC, which is why he is a 2/10 instead of 1/10 matchup.
Zeus - Easy/Medium
This really depends on your jungler honestly, Zeus
is known for his strong early game - his Aegis Assault
clears the wave fully at Level 1, he has a ton of poke and his camp clear is disgusting. Level 1-2 will be pretty rough due to his insane wave clear compared to yours, which is terrible at early levels. However literally all he brings to the table is damage. From Level 3-5 a good Jungler will be able to abuse Zeus because of his lack of any safety or control, with some follow up you can actually kill him.
If you're caught in a lane against Zeus
on your own, and you don't have a jungler with a ult that instantly puts him on top of Zeus
from across the map (read: Thor
), you will need to play passively, don't go aggressive on Zeus
because if you over extend the slightest bit he will bounce his Chain Lightning
off his shield, probably use Lightning Storm
, and you'll get hit by a 300 nuke to the face with Detonate Charge
. Speaking of Zeus
in lane, DO NOT EVER STAND NEAR A LONE MINION. He will use Chain Lightning
and guarantee 3 stacks of Detonate Charge
for insane poke damage. Because you are Thoth
, this is quite easy, but bear in mind this all of the time when against a Zeus
. 99% of Zeus
snowballs are the enemy ****ing up and trying to kill Zeus
without a gameplan, Zeus
is designed to punish mistakes. However, a lot of the time, because Zeus
has such strong waveclear, but sucks at farming under tower, he will end up 'ganking himself' by shoving in the wave so hard as Zeus
. You won't even to need to ask for ganks most of the time against a Zeus
since even the most braindead jungler will focus the **** out of him. Just play around ganks and snowball off of them.
Late game - you hard counter Zeus
does rather a lot of damage, so he will typically be hiding behind his team, throwing out Chain Lightning
, ults, and looking for big disgusting Detonates. However, since Zeus
has no mobility, if he ever gets within 85 range of you, you can just hit him with your full 1 and force a back, and if not an ult to face should equal a dead Zeus
Zhong Kui - Easy
is to you, you are to Zhong Kui
First off, his early clear is just as bad as yours, and just like yours, becomes good at Level 7! So he can't punish you in the early game at all. His Expose Evil
and Book of Demons
are all close range so if you position properly he can't poke you. Second, he is a close range mage who excels at sustained damage output and sustain - just like Hades
, except unlike Hades
, Zhong Kui
has no mobility at all, meaning he won't be able to deal any meaningful damage on you. If you ever find yourself in a Zhong Kui Recall Demons
, you can literally just put your Glyph of Pain
down, dash away, and you're fine. There's no way he'll ever hit a stun on you if you have a working keyboard and mouse.
You won't be able to kill him because he's tanky and has great sustain but that doesn't even matter, you will have the easiest laning phase of your life against a Zhong Kui
So that's Thoth! A really cool mage with an amazing kit, who when you learn him, will win you a **** ton of games! His damage and ranges are off the charts, he's pretty damn safe and he even has control now.
Before I leave you, here's a very quick list of counters and gods that work with Thoth, that aren't mages:
- Hun Batz
- Da Ji
- Cu Chulainn
- Hou Yi
- Nemesis (she busted)
Works well with:
- Ne Zha
- Erlang Shen
And with that, the guide is over. Hope you enjoyed, and if you have any questions or anything like that, drop a comment below. I didn't put hunters in the matchup section since I have a feeling you won't be seeing much of them outside of ADC come Season 5, but if you want tips against a certain hunter (or other mid laner that isn't a mid lane mage), drop a comment below and I'll try to explain the matchup for you.
20/11/17 - Am updating build for what will probably become meta on Patch 4.22. Will also update item section. Doom Orb buffs are too good to ignore
30/12/17 - Will update this guide in Season 5. Edited the Discordia matchup section a bit. I would like to clarify that I still stand by Doom Orb being very strong.
1st Edit - 30/01/18 - Updating for Season 5! :D Updated the item section (and boy are there some changes!) and matchups where appropriate. Bear in mind, these are early days for Season 5, and this is based mainly on quite limited experience, since Thoth was so bugged on PTS! Things are bound to change, and I will update the guide as such.
2nd Edit 30/01/18 - Some of this is WIP since Chrome decided to seize up, luckily I saved! Will be finished today, but if you are reading this, now that the Item section is still being updated - refresh at about 8:30pm GMT and it will be done.
3rd Edit 30/01/18 - Updated for Season 5.
1/2/18 - Did a quick proofread. Will also say that Thoth is finally enabled again, so go wild, he's a beast in S5.
16/2/18 - Updated Item Section since S5 has settled a bit.
28/2/18 - Quick Update for Patch 8.3. Updating Builds 1 and 3 based on how beastly of an item Book of the Dead is mainly. Added a changelog!
2nd Edit - Made Ethereal Staff 'another item you could use'. Forgot about it.
17/03/18 - Have updated the guide based on Patch 5.4 Changes, and have also improved the BBCode in a long overdue update! Enjoy!
21/04/2018 - Quick Update due to 5.6 Nerf to Evade and Punish. Also added some extra tips to the Evade and Punish section.
21/04/2018 (Later On) - Forgot to finish my Evade and Punish write-up (updated for latest patch), whoops! Is complete now.
12/05/18 - Updated the item section to better reflect the current meta and what is best for Thoth.
2nd Edit - Moved a stray Shoe of Focus where it was meant to be. Will clarify that this changes are for LIVE, I have no experience on the new Stone of Fal so can't comment on whether it will be OP or whatever.