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Smite God: Ymir

Choose a Build: Avalanche (Support)(Conquest)

Avalanche (Support)(Conquest) FrostBite (Burst)(Arena) Christmas Eve (Cooldown)(Clash) Abominable Snowman (Bruiser)(Joust)

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Ymir Build

Core

Heartward Amulet

Sovereignty

Boots (Choose One)

Reinforced Shoes

Traveler's Shoes

Shoes of Focus

Fed

Heartward Amulet

Sovereignty

Breastplate of Valor

Hide of the Urchin

Bulwark of Hope

Feeding

Heartward Amulet

Sovereignty

Emperor's Armor

Magi's Cloak

Bulwark of Hope

Relics (Choose Two)

Frenzy

Cloak of Meditation

Cursed Ankh

Magic Shell

Heavenly Wings

Starters (Choose One)

Mark of the Vanguard

Watcher's Gift

Ymir's Skill Order

Ice Wall

1 X

Y

3 8 12 18 19

Glacial Strike

2 A

B

1 4 6 10 15

Frost Breath

3 B

A

2 7 11 14 16

Shards of Ice

4 Y

X

5 9 13 17 20

Ymir Build

Core

Book of Thoth

Shoes of the Magi

Fed

Book of Thoth

Shoes of the Magi

Polynomicon

Soul Reaver

Rod of Tahuti

Spear of Desolation

Feeding

Book of Thoth

Shoes of the Magi

Polynomicon

Obsidian Shard

Gem of Isolation

Rod of Tahuti

Ymir's Skill Order

Ice Wall

1 X

Y

3 14 15 18 19

Glacial Strike

2 A

B

2 8 11 12 16

Frost Breath

3 B

A

1 4 6 7 10

Shards of Ice

4 Y

X

5 9 13 17 20

Ymir Build

Core

Shoes of Focus

Chronos' Pendant

Fed

Book of Thoth

Shoes of the Magi

Breastplate of Valor

Chronos' Pendant

Bulwark of Hope

Winged Blade

Feeding

Book of Thoth

Shoes of Focus

Spirit Robe

Chronos' Pendant

Hide of the Nemean Lion

Bulwark of Hope

Ymir's Skill Order

Ice Wall

1 X

Y

4 6 14 15 16

Glacial Strike

2 A

B

1 2 10 11 12

Frost Breath

3 B

A

3 7 8 18 19

Shards of Ice

4 Y

X

5 9 13 17 20

Ymir Build

Core

Warlock's Staff

Shoes of the Magi

Fed

Warlock's Staff

Shoes of the Magi

Hide of the Urchin

Ethereal Staff

Rod of Tahuti

Spear of Desolation

Feeding

Warlock's Staff

Shoes of the Magi

Ethereal Staff

Bulwark of Hope

Mail of Renewal

Rod of Tahuti

Ymir's Skill Order

Ice Wall

1 X

Y

3 4 16 18 19

Glacial Strike

2 A

B

1 6 8 11 14

Frost Breath

3 B

A

2 7 10 12 15

Shards of Ice

4 Y

X

5 9 13 17 20

Introduction

Christmas is about a month away. If you're a kid like me, Christmas is amazing! However, adults see it as the death of their bank accounts. But what I loved the most were the shows they showed. Charlie Brown and Frosty the Snowman. A few years later, and Ymir was born into the wonderful world of SMITE, and is still the most popular guardian played. This is my 5th guide now, and this one is true to my name. Just as a reminder, this guide is for all modes.
There are four more of these hidden messages. Find them all, and comment what the final one says. You shall find the first one right under your nose.

HOHOHO!

Pros

- Unique wall ability
- Highest base health
- Great team presence
- Ok CC
- Ok Clear

Cons

- Slow
- Ult on CD once activated
- Long ULT charge
- Can block allies with wall

This is the first one. You shall find the second one where one goes to pull off certain moves in fighting games

Abilities

I'm surprised that Ymir's kit has barely been touched after all this time.

Frostbite

All of Ymir's damaging abilities apply . Hitting an enemy that has Frostbite with a basic attack does double damage. Enemies affected by do 10% less damage. This debuff lasts for 4 seconds, meaning that you can basic attack them for the duration of it. This debuff can save your life.

Ice Wall

This is a wall that forms horizontally from where you select. The more you level it up, the longer it lasts. I personally wish that this was like Mei's Ice Wall, where maybe if you press 1 again, it changes positions.

Well known tip: While running, if you place this under yourself, the wall will spawn directly behind, detouring your pursuers. However, you have to have full boots, and this will not work if you are slowed. You'll wall yourself off.

You will mainly want to level this last because it is just a wall, and after leveling it once, it can last for 2 seconds.

Glacial Strike

This is a wide line in front of you. When you smash your club, it takes a quick second for it to actually do damage, so don't try to use this if enemies you are chasing are on the edge of it. Also, it does stop you in place for you to cast. On a good note, it does slow for a third of their movement speed for 4 seconds. Applies .

This will be your first ability because it deals the most damage except for your ult. Thus, maxing it out first will maximize your damage against minions as early as possible.

Frost Breath

This is a cone in front of you that damages and stuns enemies for 1 second. Applies .

This will be maxed out second. Not only does the damage increase as you level it up, but so does the stun time. At max rank, it reaches 2.25 seconds, but does not deal as much as , so it can wait after it.

Shards of Ice

This is a huge Area of Effect. It slows all enemies in the area by about a third, and after 3 seconds, explodes. This one ability can do up to 2000 damage late game if built correctly. Do note that while channeling, Ymir is frozen. You can cancel the ability any time, but the damage will be decreased, but will still apply to the whole area.

Level this whenever possible. It will eventually end up being your last ability that gets full points into it, but it is unwise to ever hold any ult points till all of your other abilities are leveled, because the ultimate ability is always detrimental to a character's kit and to a fighting scenario, so holding it back will limit your potential greatly.

Quick Combos

Simple

Try to sneak up on them to get them in the center or side of the cone. Once frozen, use your 2 to slow them. After, you can either chase them or leave them to your team.

Intermediate

You can either wall them off or freeze first. After doing one, do the other, then get close and ult. Because your ult area slows, they'll either have to Purification to get out, or take the damage. It is better to stop it early to make sure that they don't exit the area.

Advanced

Use your 3 to freeze them in place, basic them, wall them off, then use your 2. If you want to use your ult, freeze them, use your 2 to slow them, wall them off, then ult if they're close, but cancel after half a second.

This is the second one on your journey. When the third is discovered, you shall remember what it means to be a hunter.

Items

"How can you be a fed guardian?" More older players will see that the ludicrous amount of CC that guardians have can give you kills, but will still keep you in the clear, as they are naturally tanky.

Note: In the event that separate builds share the same item, they will not be reiterated in the later one. If it seems that a build has too few items, please do refer to the earlier builds to find the item you were looking for.

Build 1: Avalanche (Support)(Conquest)

Avalanches are unstoppable forces of snow, toppling over all who dare oppose it. This is a standard Support build.

Core

Heartward Amulet

is a very essential support item. It gives 200 health and 45 magical protections. With its aura, you and your allies within 70 units get an additional 20 magical protections and 20 MP5 (the amount of mana you regenerate every 5 seconds.)

To see how long 70, 55, 35, and any other number of units is, go to:
Settings
Targeting
Distance Line
Ruler
This will now show how far everything in the game on your current character will go. This is a good setting for beginners getting used to a new god, until they are proficient enough to predict and get correct their abilities, mana usage, timing, etc.

Note: This and can be swapped with any other item in the build, as in you can choose to build them later, and they can be changed with themselves, but must be in the build.

Sovereignty

is a another staple in a support build. It gives 200 health and 30 physical protections, along with its passive aura that gives every ally in a radius of 70 units 20 more physical protections and 25 HP5 (the amount of health regenerated every 5 seconds.)

Note: This and can be swapped with any other item in the build, as in you can choose to build them later, and they can be changed with themselves, but must be in the build.

Boots

Reinforced Shoes

is your first item. It provides 20 magical power, 75 health, 20% CC reduction, and 18% movement speed.

For those who don't know, CC=Crowd Control, which is stuff like Stuns (they make you unable to do anything) Roots (they keep you in place) Knock Ups/Backs (they knock you out of position) Slows (they make you slower) and Cripples (the make you unable to use a jumping, dashing, or teleporting ability. With CC reduction, you will get affected less by these things.

Every time you get damaged, you gain a stack of 6 protections, both Magical and Physical, that lasts for 6 seconds, with a maximum of 3 stacks. Protections reduce the amount of damage you take. Go big or go home.

Travelers Shoes

Travelers Shoes

This is the cheapest of the boots tree. It provides a measly 20 magical power, along with the standard 18% movement speed.

When out of combat, you gain 14% movement and 25 HP5. Also, when you hit a god, you gain 30 extra gold. This can occur every 90 seconds. 30 gold may seem small, but this can finish an item for you in certain situations. Seeing as in Conquest, you gain 3 gold every second, this shaves 10 seconds off your stay in base.

For those who don't know, when you do an ability or basic attack, you are in combat. If you stand idle after doing such an action for 5 seconds, you are out of combat. There are also visual cues, though subtle, to tell you in which stance you are in. Thus, this effect occurs 5 seconds after you stop attacking.

Shoes of Focus

is a goto item for most guardians. It supplies you with the movement speed, along with 40 magical power, 250 mana, and 10% cooldown reduction.

Fed

Breastplate of Valor

is a very popular choice in both casual and professional builds. It is very simple. It gives 75 physical protections, 300 mana, and 20% Cooldown Reduction, meaning that your abilities will come back faster.

Hide of the Urchin

is also very ideal in what it offers. It gives 35 protections of both kinds and 250 health and mana. Also, for every kill or assist you get, you earn an additional 3 Magical and Physical protections, stacking up to 10 times. This can give you a maximum of 65 protections of both kinds!

It is better to build it earlier in the build, as with any stacking item, so that you can build up stacks. However, because it is only 10 stacks of kills/assists and not minions, it can be pushed further back into the build in games that drag out longer, such as Joust or Conquest.

Bulwark of Hope

Lastly, is your last item. It gives 60 magical protections, 200 health, and 20% CC reduction.

When you are below 30% health and take damage, a shield generates around you. This shield is equal to 150 health + 10 per additional level, meaning that at level 1, you have a 160 health shield. This blocks all incoming damage and lasts for 20 seconds. When the shield either takes too much damage or the time runs out, you are returned to the amount of health you had before the shield appeared.

This is what true defense is. Not only does it give health for beefiness, CC reduction for escaping death, and protections, it also gives a shield that takes damage for you. Nuff said.

Note: Just because this is a shield does not mean you can activate it and go back into the fight like nothing happened. Either try to run far enough to be safe and recall, or help your teammates until the shield expires.

Feeding

Emperor's Armor

In my opinion, is kind of an underpicked item since its release. It flat out gives you 250 health and 30 physical protections.

Any enemy towers and phoenixes within a range of 55, which is the circle at which a ranged character can go into and damage one, have their attack speed slowed by 30%, and allied towers and phoenixes have their attack speed boosted by 30%.

This is good when you are assisting a split push, which is an attack on an enemy tower or pheonixes that is unprotected while your teammates and the enemy team are off fighting together, or for a very hard push with your team, thus keeping a majority of your minions. To tell if the effect has been applied, looking at enemy towers and phoenixes will have a red swirl, and yours will have blue swirls.

Magi's Blessing

Magi's Blessing

Another sort of underpicked item. Magi's Blessing gives 350 health and a mediocre 15 protections of both kinds.

Every 70 seconds, you are able to absorb, or nullify, a hard CC, which is type of CC that prevents you from doing anything for a period of time, or a root, which is a type of stun that still allows you to rotate your character and fire basic attacks and abilities. After this nullification, you gain 1 second of CC immunity.

Compared to Purification, a relic that nullifies any current CCs and gives 2 seconds of CC immunity, but with a cooldown of 3 minutes, this is a lesser version that can be activated twice before Purification comes back.

Relics

Meditation

Meditation

This is a relic. You get these for free at the beginning of the game, and can get another one at level 12. They have long cooldowns, and once you leave the base, they're stuck with you.

Meditation heals all allies within the area, including yourself, for 15% of their health, and restores 35% of their mana. This has a 120 second cooldown.

This is great after a fight, and you need your team to get back to a position where they can remain where they are instead of backing.

Curse

Curse

Curse slows all enemies in the area by 40% and reduces all healing effects and regeneration by 50%. This has a 150 second cooldown.

This is great for chasing an enemy, or for initiation and setup for your team to kill most of the enemy team.

Frenzy

Oh mang. This relic gives every one on your team in the area 20% extra power (applies to both kinds), 20% attack speed, gives you 10 extra objective damage, and removes all cases of Disarms. All for 10 seconds, every 120 seconds. This is the relic to go if you are aggressive, or want a huge push on objectives.

Shell

Shell

Just imagine a guardian that had a passive that gave them increased benefits from defensive items. This item gives everyone in the area 45 protections of both kinds and a 15% damage reduction buff, and has a 140 second cooldown. This is a great defense item if you walk into a fight and your team is kind of losing, or if they are running away in fear of losing.

Sprint

Sprint

Lastly, you can't have buffs without speed. Sprint makes everyone in the area 40% faster and immune to slows for 5 seconds. This can be activated every 150 seconds. This is good to get to a place fast, or to leave and disperse.

Starters

Mark of the Vanguard

This is a starter item. There are 5 to choose from, and they cost 800 gold. These are essential to getting you ahead in the game, as they provide benefits that will later be shadowed by more expensive items.

gives 10 physical protections and 150 health.

This starter reduces all incoming damage by 5. Seeing as basic attacks from hunters early game will do around 30 damage, and guardian abilities do around 100 damage at level 1, you can see how this can be your earliest form of protections and can save your life.

This item is for an aggressive start, if you want to go head in after all minions are killed, or want to wait until your enemy makes a misclick. It happens

Watcher's Gift

Another starter item, gives 100 health, 5 HP5, and 5 MP5.

When you assist in a minion or jungle monster kill, but don't actually kill it, you get 4 gold, including the gold for getting an assist, and restore 7 health and 7 mana.

This item is great for supports. Seeing as your hunter will need the minion kills and stacks for their items, it still allows you to stay right where you are in terms of exp and gold. This more supports the passive play-style, letting your enemy make the move before you strike, or just gaining great farm.

Build 2: FrostBite (Burst)(Arena)

Build 3: Christmas Eve (Cooldown)(Clash)

Every knows that feeling. Going to bed on Christmas Eve, imagining using your Christmas present in your dreams. Waking up at 2 A.M. because you thought you heard a sound and went to go check on the cookies and stockings. All of it, just hoping that you didn't have to wait so long for Christmas. This build, you won't have to, because Christmas is every few seconds.

Core

Chronos' Pendant

is what truly gives this build its name. It grants 75 magical power, 25 MP5, and 20% Cooldown Reduction. Simple, but important.

Fed

Shoes of the Magi

I know that we have already covered this item in my FrostBite Build. However, in this build, it replaces the core item of . This is because if you were to buy those, you would go over the regular maximum cooldown reduction of 40% by 10%. Thus, giving you some extra power and penetration would benefit you more to give your abilities a punch.

Winged Blade

To have fast abilities, you must be able to be fast. gives 300 health, 20% CC reduction, 10% attack speed, and 10% movement speed.

Note: With this item, you will max out your CC% reduction, meaning that all CCs will affect you 40% less.

When you get hit by a slow, it is nullified. Not only that, but you will be immune to slows and move 20% faster for 4 seconds. This can occur every 20 seconds. This thing has more mobility in it than .

Feeding

Spirit Robe

has now seen more of a pickup than it used to. As of Patch 3.21, it gives 40 protections of both kinds, 10% Cooldown reduction, and 20% CC reduction.

When you get hit by a hard CC, which are CC's that render you useless, you get a 15% damage mitigation, or reduction, buff for 3 seconds. This can occur every 15 seconds. This can be well paired with Purification to give CC immunity for 2 of the 3 seconds.

Hide of the Nemean Lion

For those who don't know, the Nemean Lion was a beast that fought that had impenetrable skin. But being himself, he killed with his bare hands. gives 90 physical protections and 200 mana, which gives you an extra 6 magical power.

Anyone knows , right? The anti-hunter hunter? ring a bell? Well, if he were an item, he would be this one, because ~~it ****s hunters up~~ it decreases a hunter's effectiveness. 20% of all basic attack damage is reflected back to the dealer. This includes critical attacks. And people say SMITE is broken.

Build 4: Abominable Snowman (Bruiser)(Joust)

Basics

It is inevitable: you will play conquest. Wether it be for curiosity, you were in a party, or even doing the tutorial, everyone plays conquest at least once. To keep playing conquest and starting to like the game mode is your choice. If you do decide to play it, and choose (or are stuck with) support, take Ymir in with you.

Everything you need to know

As you know by now, Ymir is a guardian. He will be paired up with a hunter/ other. Your job is to protect said hunter/ other. Hopefully this assists you in your duties.

Early Game

The first few levels, 1-7, is the time that you are most vulnerable. This is called the laning phase. Staying in lane is important to get experience. However, do not push minions. Your lane partner needs that experience and gold more, so that they can carry as early as possible. You can activate abilities on minions to get them weak so you can get assist xp and gold, but killing them can put your partner in jeopardy, as they may have lost some xp and gold to the enemy.

When minions are gone, try to poke the enemy. What this means is that while there are no minions, try to agress the enemy, and get one or two abilites off. Use abilities that have CC, or some way of setup, so that your partner can get some damage off as well. It is important that minions are gone, because if you attack while minions are around, the minions will attack you. Early game, minions will kill you in what seems like no time at all.

Lastly, no veteran player can stress just how crucial it is to WARD. Not only can they provide vision of unseen areas, it can tell where enemies are going, if objectives are being attacked, or if someone is engaging in a split push. Regular s cost 50 gold each, and you can hold two of them. All they do is give vision. s cost 120 gold, and you can only hold 1, but they can also spot enemy wards, allowing you to destroy them and gain gold. While on the topic of wards, I would like to give light to a rather forgotten item. is a relic that lets you place s for free, and this relic goes on cooldown when you return to base. All wards last for 3 minutes or until killed.

Do:
+Try to back only when you are weak, or have low mana.+
+Support killing minions+
+Assist on killing the enemy+
+Go for jungle buffs and xp camps with your partner from time to time+
+Tank some damage, and even kill yourself, if your partner's in trouble+

Don't:
-Get aggressive-
-Leave your partner behind-
-Rotate to other lanes-
-Back excessively-
-Push minions, unless your partner is gone-
-Take buffs-
The third clue has been uncovered. Time to end your journey with one last speech.

Mid Game

Mid game is the rotating phase. Levels 8 and 9, you still stay in lane with your partner, and seeing how they may be near done with their stacking items, you can start to push minions by yourself, and even leave your hunter alone to do xp camps and ward by yourself. The mid game lasts until level 14.

Once you reach level 10, you can rotate to other lanes. What you essentially do is gank other lanes and help defend and push towers. It is this part of the game where the map and the VGS system have become your best friends. Listening to important commands like "Be right back" or "Help!", and then being able to look at the map to see where the problem is occurring, is crucial to you learning how to support not just your partner, but the whole team, effectively.

Also, mid game is when team fights start. Because both teams are trying to defend towers, if your team is trying to defend the last tower they have in a lane, they will defend it hard. Because they have they have the tower fire damage, and the incoming minions, it is your job to initiate this to take all the damage, while still providing setup and pushing the enemy for your team. The same will be for you. If the enemy is pushing your tower, you are to be the one in the front, leading the defense.

Lastly, another key thing you can start doing at level 10 is attacking the Gold Fury. The Gold Fury is a Norse Dragon made of gold, that when killed, gives your whole team 350 gold. The reason this is important to you is because you will initiate this. Calling VAG "Attack the Gold Fury" lets your team know you are trying to get that gold lead before the enemy does. If the others reply with a "OK!" or an "On my way", then it is you will take the damage until one other teammate comes so they can help you take the objective. Do note that you will still tank damage, because while you are the backbone of your team, you need the rest of your team alive because you cannot carry the team.

Note: Because this objective is a game changer, it is just as game changing to WARD IT. Using s are most effective because, again, they can spot enemy wards, allowing you to remove that line of sight from the enemy. Also, the Gold Fury spawns 3 minutes after it has been killed.

Do:
+Help your partner+
+Push towers in other lanes+
+Initiate team fights and objectives+
+Be in the front lines+

Don't:
-Split Push-
-Attack objectives by yourself-
-Forget/Ignore other lanes-
-Be in the back line-

Late Game

Now, you have really become the skeleton that controls the body that is your team. Levels 15 through 20 and until the game ends is the late game. By now, you should be close to being, if not, done with your build. You are still doing what you did mid game: rotating, Gold Fury, towers, warding.

At this point in the game, the Fire Giant is looking really tantalizing. For those who don't know, the Fire Giant is a big flaming beast with a sword that when killed, restores health and mana and gives you extra damage to objectives of any kind, all for 3 minutes or until you are killed. This includes towers, phoenixes, titans, and Gold Furies. As you can see, this the tool you need to push hard. All it takes is one deicide, and Fire Giant is gone. The team that has it can take at least a tower and a phoenix in the same lane. #ComebackIsReal

Something important to know is that the phoenix is the last line of defense in a lane. If this is destroyed, all minions pushing forward in that lane deal additional damage and take reduced damage. These are called fire minions, and given time, a group of them can kill your titan, seeing as more can come in almost no time.

Lastly, DON"T DIE TOO OFTEN! As you level up and die more often, the game starts punishing you. The higher your level, the longer it takes for you to respawn. Respawn times at this point in the game can be 90 seconds, so please don't think you can solo the game. That's Stuke's job.

Enemy Gods

I wish Ymir was the only guardian. But unfortunately, its 2016, and people are spouting things left and right about diversity and equal rights. Thus, there shall be 13 guardians. But alas, a new challenger appears: the hunter. This chapter will help you understand what you will be facing.

Supports

Note: There will be people who will play gods other than the ones below as support. Keep an open mind that the ones below are the most common ones to be played as support. Who knows if you verse an alongside a hunter.

Aphrodite

Ares

Athena

Bacchus

Cabrakan

Chang'e

Fafnir

Geb

Guan Yu

Hades

Hel

Khepri

Kumbhakarna

Ra

Sobek

Sylvanus

Terra

Xing Tian

Cool Skins

It's a shame how you can't get most of Ymir's skins, because they are really cool. Also, why no recolor, I don't know, but I feel like Fire Giant was the easiest road to one.

Skin Cards

Final Words

Thanks for reading my guide. I hope you enjoyed. If you feel I left anything out, have something to improve, or just wanna talk, please do so in a respectable manner. Comment if you tried out any of these builds and if they worked out for you. If you'd like to, please check out my other guides. Finally, don't get parched mid-game. Have a tall glass of IceColdPappsi, but make sure there's no parts of Ymir in your cup.

Special Thanks to xZeroStrike for supplying me the code for the headers of some of the guide and for teaching me how to do tables. Private message him if you ever need some help with your coding like I did.

Special Thanks to Branmuffin17 for help with my guide. He's really familiar with the game and the website, so ask him for help in your comments and he shall come to the rescue. I would also like to thank him for creating super awesome guides.

Lastly, special thanks to all guides that I used in the Enemy Gods section. I may not have asked for permission to put it in mine, but I hope that I gave you publicity in some way.

I see that you were dedicated to this journey. Comment "Hit 'em with the freeze" and see how many get the reference.

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First of all, I wanna say this guide has some correct points, but more incorrent than correct ones.

On all of your builds with defensive items, when you state that, when the player is "FEEDING" they should exchange a high protection item, Hide of the Urchin, for a horrible Purification rip-off with 15 protections of each, instead of trying to find a way to counter their main damage. There isn't a "One-Size-Fits-All" when it comes to builds, but you could do a much better job.
Your matchups section is barely a matchup section at all ! In fact, it's a "quick know what this god does" section ! If that section was a video, I would call it click-bait.
"I wish Ymir was the only guardian". You throw this statement out there, without even trying to explain why. I know it's not the point of the guide, but it's also useless and space-consuming to write stuff like that.
Generic Statements are bad. Don't do them. Be specific.
"Cool Skins Section" The epidemy of being pointless and the feeling that making a gigantic, space waster of a guide is a good idea.
Even if you're doing Mage Ymir on arena, you still need defenses, cuz you need to get close. Did you even try this build out before publishing this guide ?
Your build explanation tab is just pointless. You pretty much wrote what the item does, but not why you're using it. That stuff anyone can see it, in a more condensed and easier way, by hovering over the Smite Database tab here on Smitefire and clicking on any of the Smite Items links.
Your walls of text are so badly made that I swear a baby can do better. Some of the information in them are obvious, delete them and re-do it. No one needs you saying seven times the same thing about pushing a minion wave and, OH BOY, MINIONS WILL ATTACK YOU !
You shouldn't take buffs as Ymir. I hope you meant that as "Help with clearing buffs".

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Look. This is a beginner guide. It is to learn how to play a god. That's why it is called for dummies. I don't mean to call people dummies, but as a general way of saying you don't know this. So, if the stuff seems kind of basic, it is supposed to be. I am not an advanced person by any means, so I can't tell people how to play them at an advanced level, advanced builds, advanced stats, etc. I want to stress that before I get to each of your points.

Hide of the Urchin provides nothing else but extra protections. That is why if you and your team is ahead, this is good to help keep you alive as you engage. Magi's Blessing does give way less protections than Hide of the Urchin, but it is the passive that gives it the feeding replacement. Yes, it is a Purification knockoff, but as both you and I know, Purification is very great for getting out of CC, which gets you out of damage, which gets you out of death. So having a lesser version of this is not bad, as it too can help with survivability, thus trying to get them out of that feeding side and get them ahead. On your point of countering the damage and the enemy team, I can not predict the outcome of the enemy team composition, which is why the build as a whole is balanced, and always subject to change, if the enemy team is all hunters for example.
I stated this earlier with Branmuffin17. I am not knowledgable enough, nor do I have the experience, to tell a beginner how to counter play against a certain god. The matchups section tells what you will be facing up against in the future, which is why I listed what they are capable of in terms of their kit. If you would like, please suggest a less click baity title for that section to make the point of the chapter clearer.
That sentence was a way to start off the chapter. If I just started the chapter with "This will tell you what you're up against," it would be dull. As stated by Daelinn, the narrative that I have portrayed makes for quick and fun reading, and personally, I fell it is very down to earth and in a friendly manner.
What generic statements?
This chapter is a fun chapter. I included for the purpose of getting a look and feel for the character without actually playing them. All of Ymir's skins are big and menacing, which is what he is: a giant. In the case of Aphrodite her skins all portray her in a beautiful way, because she is beautiful.
You prefaced this point by saying "mage Ymir." Do mages have protections? Does that increase their damage/burst? Besides that, Ymir already has the highest base health in the game, and while it is not an equivalent to having actual protections, it is still significant enough to be considered defense.
This one is right. I will try to add some explanations as to why the items are in the build. I did in some, but will now do them in all.
For the Basics section, I get that they are a bit lengthy in text. I did try to make sure that the important stuff was highlighted in some fashion. Again, I can not tell you how important it is that beginners to SMITE and Ymir know this sort of stuff. It is essential to getting more into the pro stuff. It is also a way to lessen the intensity and level of play it takes to do well in Conquest by telling you the important things that you as a guardian will be doing, when, the stages, etc.
Yes I did mean that. In the Early stages I said Don't take buffs.

I'm sorry if I came off as mean in this reply, or dumb in my guide. I worked really hard on it, it has gotten generally good praise, and it's still being updated. It kind of makes me sad and mad at the same time to have some guy bash the whole thing. I hope you can understand.

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AlphaStar makes some points that one might agree with (I'm not trying to influence the guide). That said, most of it is very to-the-point, and he's not pulling punches...but you can also take the comments objectively to help improve the guide.

That said, "I swear a baby can do better" is a bit over the top and unnecessary.

Regarding Magi's Blessing, well...just calling it a horrible Purification ripoff isn't very accurate...sure, you can't control when you use it, and it provides only 1 second of immunity to 2 seconds from the relic, but at the same time, you have to consider that it refreshes every 70 seconds, compared to 160 (more than double!) of Purification. That said, yes, the protections are low, and so it shouldn't be exactly considered a replacement for a stronger protection item like . Yes, Urchin is better when your team is ahead and not getting destroyed...after all, building its stacks requires kills or assists, and if you're not getting those, it's not as immediately worth it.

@Papps, your guide has a ****ton of comments...it's crazy. So dude/dudette might not have gone through all of them, and is just stating thoughts. Yes, the comments lacked a bit of tact...but you can use feedback of all kinds and turn them into something positive...right?

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Just went through all the comments. Most of them have already been done, like the one concerning . Thx for the concern, tho. I'm a guy.

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LOL "dude/dudette" was about Alpha. I know you've gone through the comments.

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I feel like you should consider traveler's shoes instead of reinforced since reinforced are rather situational imo, gl stacking up 6 times for the passive, and with his lack of mobility you really need them shoes. In fact I feel like your whole core is rather situational

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Thx for the suggestion! Will fix core to remove boots, and provide both shoes as first item.

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Basics section is done. Matchups only has the first few guardians. Comment on the visual appearance of the matchups.

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Great work! However, not to stress you out, but do know that there's only a week left. Better get to those matchups and such asap, huh?

Great guide, though. I advise you to do this for all of your guides after the contest, and not just the one. I believe in you.

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UR STRESSING ME! JK, its the weekend, so imma have most of it done by saturday probs. Also, will do, starting with Agni.

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Guide updated. Added basics and matchups settings. Basics will be done by tomorrow. Matchups by this weekend. Don't forget to leave suggestions and comments.

Also, we have almost reached 10,000 views on this guide. I would like to thank everyone that has viewed the guide, and to the 10 people (2 dislikes) who voted and made me feel good about myself. Let's reach that goal! Pls?

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Am now proud to say that all build spoilers are done. *Confetti*

Also, was thinking of adding Gameplay section to guide. Thoughts?

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My personal opinion is that a gameplay section is a must for a "Good" guide. Since that is what many players actually want to see when they're looking up "How To?" guides.

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Estidien just gave you a major hint. I'd run with it.

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I'm afraid that if I do a How To section of the guide, that it will look like walls of text. Was also thinking of putting matchup section for people interested in Conquest. How would i put BBCoding to make sure the lengthy text doesnt deter people away from valuable information?

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Gameplay - Early Game

Lane

Jungle

Just an example.

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The human brain works in a way that we are drawn to different colors. (If you're looking at a red wall with a white dot, your gaze is naturally directed towards the white unless you conciously try not to. Simple color bbcoding could be what youlre looking for. Also use headers and stuff to organize. Also if you're worried about text walls, just spruce up the info and make it more entertaining to read.

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True. Hence why babies love colorful toys, for example. Got a real psychologist up in this crib.

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Should I do colors lighter than red? I did red because the brain signifies it as urgent. Green means good, and blue means later. That's why Target is red to mean impulse buying, and Walmart is blue to means buy in bulk and think of the future. Colors are wonderful.

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Thx, Zero for the start. I might spruce it up to include more new-player friendly information and explanations.

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Of course you'll need to provide way more info than that. It was just a preview of what all you can do to make something not look like a wall of text.

Of course there's different ways you can do it: Columns, tables, lists, images/videos (probably requires you to make them yourself).

There's a variety of ways to present something to an audience. It's up to you to find out what method works the best for what type/amount of information you're trying to get across, and what is most appreciated by your audience.

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Just updated the guide to include the second build spoiler. Comment on it below.

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To whom it may concern:

How do I do a strikethrough?

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Shortly after posting the above comment, I found out that it was

Code:

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I really like the narrative you're using throughout the whole guide; helps in easy and pleasant reading experience:

"Polynomicon, Soul Reaver. What do they have in common? THEY CAN BE SEEN ON AN Ao Kuang!"
~my favorite.

Regarding the appearance; highlighted words with various colors are really well done and look tidy, but I'd say sometimes there's even maybe a little too much of them; like in and paragraphs. / ones on the other hand look perfect in my opinion.

I also don't know if it's only a personal perception issue, but I'm having trouble reading words that are written in the purple color (like for example in the ability description)- maybe changing it to a bit lighter version would be a decent idea?

From other thoughts with which you may or may not agree with, yet I'll allow myself to mention them:

in the Abilities section, the discussed ability's name could be added above/nearby the description; it can be seen by hovering over the icon but I think it'd look more natural
in the Skins section; what would you think about making all of the icons the same size? (and/or maybe centering them) for example on Smitepedia there are such for every skin available

Anyways, that's a well deserved upvote from me.

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I'm impressed.

You have really improved this guide a lot since you created it. Keep on going, you (and your guides) have a lot of potential.

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Fun guide! I appreciate your different builds and effort put into coding your guide. :)

One of my thoughts was, if you could put a short explanation by your build names it would help people decide / remember which build they want to use. Ex: instead of just "Avalance" as the build title put "Avalanche (Support)" etc.

Also I like your Quick Combo idea. These are the kinds of things that really help new players. Perhaps removing it from the spoiler and showing the step by step order with the skill icons would highlight it's value better. Also adding any more combos you think of! :)

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Thx for the suggestions. I agree with the combo idea. However, it might take an extra weekend to finish this guide, because I'm still in school. Should be finished in 2 weeks.

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All good! You have time. :) Just let me know if you want any help with the coding etc!

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When you say help, do you mean doing the coding, or tips/suggestions?

Also, how do i put the literal code into a spoiler like Zero does so I can show you if you decide to do the first option?

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@Pappsi, in the comments box, look immediately above it...last option on the right. Hover over it with your mouse cursor, and it'll indicate "code." Use this, which is just code and /code in brackets.

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Just published the guide. Still being updated. Added Combo Section, and build 1 spoiler looks very appealing. Comment on visual appearance of build 1 and combo section.

Code for build 1

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[table bgcolor=#0099CC]
[tr bgcolor=#000000]
[td padding=10 width=680]
[center][size=7][u][color=#0080ff]Core[/color][/u][/size][/center][/td][/tr][/table]
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[center][size=4][color=Grey][b]Reinforced Shoes[/b][/color][/size]
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[columns]
[nextcol width=100][icon=Reinforced Shoes size=75]
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[size=3][[Reinforced Shoes]] is your [color=#0099CC]first item[/color]. It provides [color=#ff0000]20 magical power[/color], [color=#00ff00]75 health[/color], [color=#ffff00]20% CC reduction[/color], and [color=#ffffff]18% movement speed[/color].
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For those who don't know, CC=Crowd Control, which is stuff like [color=#ff0000]Stuns[/color] (they make you unable to do anything) [color=#ff0000]Roots[/color] (they keep you in place) [color=#ff0000]Knock Ups/Backs[/color] (they knock you out of position) [color=#ff0000]Slows[/color] (they make you slower) and [color=#ff0000]Cripples[/color] (the make you unable to use a jumping, dashing, or teleporting ability. With CC reduction, you will get affected less by these things.
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Every time you get damaged, you gain a stack of [color=#808080]6 protections[/color], both [color=#800080]Magical[/color] and [color=#00ffff]Physical[/color], that lasts for 6 seconds, with a maximum of 3 stacks. Protections reduce the amount of damage you take. Go big or go home.
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[/size][/center][/columns]
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[center][rule][/center]
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[center][size=4][color=#00ff00][b]Heartward Amulet[/b][/color][/size]
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[columns]
[nextcol width=100][center][icon=Heartward Amulet size=75][/center]
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[size=3][[Heartward Amulet]] is a very essential support item. It gives [color=#00ff00]200 health[/color] and [color=#808080]45 magical protections[/color]. With its aura, you and your allies within [b]70 units[/b] get [color=#808080]an additional 20 magical protections[/color] and [color=#00ffff]20 MP5[/color] (the amount of mana you regenerate every 5 seconds.)
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To see how long 70, 55, 35, and any other number of units is, go to:
Settings
Targeting
Distance Line
Ruler
This will now show how far everything in the game on your current character will go. This is a good setting for beginners getting used to a new god, until they are proficient enough to predict and get correct their abilities, mana usage, timing, etc.
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Note: This and [[Sovereignty]] can be swapped with any other item in the build, as in you can choose to build them later, and they can be changed with themselves, but must be in the build.
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[/size][/center][/columns]
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[center][rule][/center]
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[center][size=4][color=#00ff00][b]Sovereignty[/b][/color][/size]
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[nextcol width=100][center][icon=Sovereignty size=75][/center]
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[size=3][[Sovereignty]] is a another staple in a support build. It gives [color=#00ff00]200 health[/color] and [color=#808080]30 physical protections[/color], along with its passive aura that gives every ally in a radius of [b]70 units[/b] [color=#808080]20 more physical protections[/color] and [color=#00ff00]25 HP5[/color] (the amount of health regenerated every 5 seconds.)
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Note: This and [[Heartward Amulet]] can be swapped with any other item in the build, as in you can choose to build them later, and they can be changed with themselves, but must be in the build.
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[/size][/center][/columns]
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[table bgcolor=#0099CC]
[tr bgcolor=#000000]
[td padding=10 width=680]
[center][size=7][u][color=#0080ff]Fed[/color][/u][/size][/center][/td][/tr][/table]
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[center][size=4][b][color=#0080ff]Breastplate of Valor[/color][/b][/size]
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[size=3][[Breastplate of Valor]] is a very popular choice in both casual and professional builds. It is very simple. It gives [color=#808080]75 physical protections[/color], [color=#00ffff]300 mana[/color], and [color=#ffffff]20% Cooldown Reduction[/color], meaning that your abilities will come back faster.
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[/size][/center][/columns]
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[center][rule][/center]
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[center][size=4][b][color=#00ffff]Hide of the Urchin[/color][/b][/size]
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[nextcol width=100][center][icon=Hide of the Urchin size=75][/center]
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[size=3][[Hide of the Urchin]] is also very ideal in what it offers. It gives [color=#808080]35 protections of [b]both kinds[/b][/color] and 250 [color=#00ff00]health[/color] and [color=#0080ff]mana[/color]. Also, for every kill or assist you get, you earn an additional 3 [b][color=#800080]Magical[/color][/b] and [color=#ffffff][b]Physical[/b][/color] protections, stacking up to 10 times. This can give you a maximum of [u]65 protections of both kinds![/u]
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It is better to build it earlier in the build, as with any stacking item, so that you can build up stacks. However, because it is only 10 stacks of kills/assists and not minions, it can be pushed further back into the build in games that drag out longer, such as Joust or [url=https://www.smitefire.com/smite/guide/the-overarching-conquest-guide-s3-patch-3-20-12069]Conquest[/url].
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[/size][/center][/columns]
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[center][rule][/center]
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[center][size=4][b][color=#0080ff]Bulwark of Hope[/color][/b][/size]
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[nextcol width=100][icon=Bulwark of Hope size=75]
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[size=3] Lastly, [[Bulwark of Hope]] is your last item. It gives [color=#800080]60 magical protections[/color], [color=#00ff00]200 health[/color], and [color=#ffff00]20% CC reduction[/color].
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When you are below 30% health [u]and[/u] take damage, a shield generates around you. This shield is equal to [color=#00ff00]150 health[/color] + [color=#ffffff]10 per additional level[/color], meaning that at level 1, you have a 160 health shield. This blocks all incoming damage and lasts for [u]20 seconds[/u]. When the shield either takes too much damage or the time runs out, you are returned to the amount of health you had before the shield appeared.
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Note: Just because this is a shield does not mean you can activate it and go back into the fight like nothing happened. Either try to run far enough to be safe and recall, or help your teammates until the shield expires.
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[table bgcolor=#0099CC]
[tr bgcolor=#000000]
[td padding=10 width=680]
[center][size=7][u][color=#0080ff]Feeding[/color][/u][/size][/center][/td][/tr][/table]
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[center][size=4][b][color=#00ffff]Shoes of Focus[/color][/b][/size]
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[nextcol width=100][center][icon=Shoes of Focus size=75][/center]
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[size=3] [[Shoes of Focus]] is a goto item for most guardians. It supplies with the movement speed, along with [color=#ff0000]40 magical power[/color], [color=#00ffff]250 mana[/color], and [color=#808000]10% cooldown reduction[/color].
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Now, I know that this does replace [[Reinforced Shoes]] in this build. Despite its 50 gold increase, which is hard to get in the early stages, it is the only cooldown item in the build. Thus, it is better in the long run, where 1 second left till one of your abilities comes online can mean 1 second of extreme damage, and even death.
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[center][rule][/center]
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[center][size=4][b][color=#00ffff]Emperor's Armor[/color][/b][/size]
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[nextcol width=100][center][icon=Emperor's Armor size=75][/center]
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[size=3] In my opinion, [[Emperor's Armor]] is kind of an underpicked item since its release. It flat out gives you [color=#00ff00]250 health[/color] and [color=#808080]30 physical protections[/color].
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Any [color=#ff0000]enemy towers and phoenixes[/color] within a range of [b]55[/b], which is the circle at which a ranged character can go into and damage one, have their [color=#ff8000]attack speed slowed by 30%[/color], and [color=#0080ff]allied towers and phoenixes[/color] have their [color=#800080]attack speed boosted by 30%.[/color]
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This is good when you are assisting a split push, which is an attack on an enemy tower or pheonixes that is unprotected while your teammates and the enemy team are off fighting together, or for a very hard push with your team, thus keeping a majority of your minions. To tell if the effect has been applied, looking at enemy towers and phoenixes will have a red swirl, and yours will have blue swirls.
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[center][rule][/center]
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[center][size=4][b][color=#00ffff]Magi's Blessing[/color][/b][/size]
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[nextcol width=100][center][icon=Magi's Blessing size=75][/center]
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[size=3] Another sort of underpicked item. [[Magi's Blessing]] gives [color=#00ff00]350 health[/color] and a mediocre [color=#808080]15 protections of both kinds.[/color]
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Every [u]70 seconds[/u], you are able to absorb, or nullify, [u]a hard CC[/u], which is type of CC that prevents you from doing anything for a period of time, or a [u]root[/u], which is a type of stun that still allows you to rotate your character and fire basic attacks and abilities. After this nullification, you gain [color=#808000]1 second of CC immunity.[/color] Compared to [[Purification]], a relic that nullifies [b]any current CCs[/b] and gives [color=#808000]2 seconds of CC immunity[/color], but with a cooldown of [color=#ff0000]3 minutes[/color], this is a lesser version that can be activated twice before [[Purification]] comes back.
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Can someone comment on the 1st build explanation to see if I'm going in the right direction before i continue?

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I'd say it's pretty standard casual build, and the best thing to build if you're new with Ymir. The only thing I'd change would be for , so that you have at least some CDR in the "feeding" path.

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I should have been more specific. I meant the visual representation. I tried Zero's table down there, and when i went to tweak for my other items, it pooped out and came out ugly.

On the comment you did leave, is a good replacement for if concerning only CDR, but gives all those other benefits, and is more for the person just learning support in conquest, or as a Standard build like you said. If i were to put in the build, i would probably put it in the Fed side, because it costs more gold, so people who have been assissting/killing more and dying less will have more gold to get and start the next item then someone who has fed their lane by 5 kills.

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If your tables messed up that means that you have messed up somewhere.
Here's a short explanation:

[table] and [/table] - These indicate the start and end of a table.
[table bgcolor=#000000] - The "bgcolor=#xxxxxx" is the color that the outlining of the table will have.

[tr] and [/tr] - These indicate the start and end of a row. Rows are the entire row of a table, from left to right, regardless of multiple cells added.
[tr bgcolor=#000000] - The "bgcolor=#xxxxxx" indicates the color of the background of your row. This background color takes effect over the entire row, for all cells within that row.

[td] and [/td] - These indicate the start and end of a cell. Each row has at least 1 cell. If you only have 1 cell, the entire row will be your cell. If you have multiple cells in a row, you'll have multiple "spaces" within a row.
[td padding=x width=x] - The padding indicates the height of a cell. If whatever you're trying to write doesn't fit inside the cell, the cell will auto-adjust itself. Use this to gain a consistent height over all your cells, provided your info fits inside them. The width indicates the width of a cell.

Per table, you only need 1 [table] and [/table]. You can create tables inside of tables, but do note that for each [table] you have, you need a [/table] or else it'll come out messed up.

You can have multiple rows in a table. To end one row (that has been started with [tr]), use a [/tr] tag. Now enter and use [tr] for the new row. For each [tr] that you have, you need a [/tr] or else it'll come out really messed up.

You can have multiple cells within 1 row. To start a new cell, use [/td] to close the cell (that has been started with [td]), press enter, and start the new cell with [td]. For each [td] that you have, you need a [/td] or else it'll come out really messed up.

Hopefully this helps you understand tables a bit better. Anyway, your items #1 look good, a lot better than before.

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I forgot to end the rows. I'll try it out again, see how it goes.

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