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Ymir likes Warm Hugs! | Ymir 4.7 In-Depth Conquest Guide

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Smite God: Ymir

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Support
Support Solo

Purchase Order

Start

Build Item Watcher's Gift Watcher's Gift
Build Item Shoes Shoes
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion

Item 1

Build Item Traveler's Shoes Traveler's Shoes
Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus

Item 2

Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Heartward Amulet Heartward Amulet
Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes

Items 3 and 4

Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor
Build Item Dynasty Plate Helm Dynasty Plate Helm
Build Item Bulwark of Hope Bulwark of Hope
Build Item Shogun's Kusari Shogun's Kusari
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone

Against AA-Based Gods

Build Item Hide of the Nemean Lion Hide of the Nemean Lion
Build Item Midgardian Mail Midgardian Mail
Build Item Witchblade Witchblade

Against Healers

Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Divine Ruin Divine Ruin
Build Item Witchblade Witchblade

Against Slows

Build Item Winged Blade Winged Blade

Against Knockups

Build Item Stone of Gaia Stone of Gaia

Last Items

Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation

Full Build Example #1

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Shogun's Kusari Shogun's Kusari
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation

Full Build Example #2

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes
Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Stone of Gaia Stone of Gaia
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe

Relics

Build Item Meditation Cloak Meditation Cloak
Build Item Heavenly Wings Heavenly Wings
Build Item Phantom Veil Phantom Veil
Build Item Magic Shell Magic Shell
Build Item Cursed Ankh Cursed Ankh
Build Item Horrific Emblem Horrific Emblem
Build Item Blink Rune Blink Rune

Ymir's Skill Order

Ice Wall

Ice Wall

1 X
3 15 16 18 19
Glacial Strike

Glacial Strike

2 A
1 4 7 8 11
Frost Breath

Frost Breath

3 B
2 6 10 12 14
Shards of Ice

Shards of Ice

4 Y
5 9 13 17 20

Introduction

Welcome to my guide to Ymir, Father of the Frost Giants!


Before we start, I would like to mention that this guide participated of the Smitefire's Ymir Guide Contest and became a Runner up!

This is my first Smitefire guide, and I would appreciate feedback, as I'm constantly updating it; So feel free to comment - it greatly helps.


Regardless, lets move on to the big snowman himself, Ymir!

Stats

Stats
Offensive
Defensive
Other
  • Mana: 200 (+32)
  • Damage: 38 (+1.55) +20% of your Magical Power
  • Range: 12 (+0)
  • Attack/sec: 0.85 (+1.2%)
  • Health: 510 (+104)
  • Physical Protection: 23 (+3.3)
  • Magical Protection: 30 (+0.9)
  • Hp5: 8 (+0.9)
  • Mp5: 4.5 (+0.4)
  • Speed: 360 (+0)
Note: Numbers in parentheses are the amount gained at each level.

Pros / Cons

Pros & Cons


........ Pros ........

One of the highest base health of the game
Tanky, yet has awesome damage
Frost Breath can be extremely useful for teamfights
Capable of performing great combos with Ice Wall
....... Cons .......

Ice Wall can block allies
Very Slow/Low mobility
Ultimate can be easily avoided
Mana-hungry if played incorrectly
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Skills





skills

Combos

Simple combo:

> >
Block your enemie's path with Ice Wall, then, while they try to turn around it, you use Frost Breath to keep them in place and then Glacial Strike to slow them and also to deal damage. You should also attack them with AAs inbetween abilities.

Ultimate Combo:

> > >
Block your enemie's path with Ice Wall, then, while they try to turn around it, you use Frost Breath to freeze them, and then Glacial Strike (You can skip Glacial Strike if you want to confirm the ultimate damage more easily). After
this, use Shards of Ice.

Note:Maybe you will have to cancel your ult before it reaches its maximum power.

Items

Support




Support


Solo




Solo


Relics




Relics


Warding

Warding

Gameplay

Support


Solo

Matchups

Support


Solo

Conclusion

Ymir is a great, well balanced guardian that is capable of being Tanky and still dealing lots of damage. I hope that I achieved what I wanted with this guide, and don't forget to give your feedback! Goodbye and have a great day!

Wait! Don't forget to check my other guides:

Also, I would like to credit some people that helped me to improve this guide:
Branmuffin17
Zilby (BB-Coding, Templates for Introduction and Items (Partially) sections)
xZeroStrike (BB-Coding, Templates for Stats, Pros & Cons and Items (Partially) sections.)

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boogiebass (31) | April 17, 2018 6:55pm
Update dis >:(
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Bernardozomer (33) | April 20, 2018 5:03pm
Eeeh... I'll leave that for tomorrow... Maybe....
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Technotoad64 (45) | April 19, 2018 10:04am
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boogiebass (31) | September 10, 2017 2:16pm
I found this website that sells beard accessories
https://grimfrost.com/collections/beard-accessories
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Technotoad64 (45) | September 10, 2017 6:30pm
Ymir's beard needs no accessories. Also, how would you comb and trim a beard made out of ice, anyway?
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boogiebass (31) | September 11, 2017 8:13pm
With a comb/trimmer made of fire.
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boogiebass (31) | September 10, 2017 2:17pm
woops auto correct. Nice guide, +1 from me. Will try this out next time i play Ymir
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Bernardozomer (33) | September 10, 2017 7:04pm
Thanks Boogie! Tbh, my Sobek guide build fits Ymir better than this one (I need to update it...).
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sunny108108 (3) | March 21, 2017 6:09pm
great build for ymir!
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CirclesAreRound (14) | March 21, 2017 8:29pm
Indeed
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Bernardozomer (33) | March 22, 2017 3:42am
Yay
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Bernardozomer (33) | March 12, 2017 7:13am
Updated guide for Season 4 (finally)! Though, most of the new text was transferred from my Sobek guide (with the needed adjustments being made). Item builds were almost totally reformulated. However, Support Matchups section will remain unchanged (outdated) for some time until I update it.
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Bernardozomer (33) | March 25, 2017 11:47am
Updated Matchups section.
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Branmuffin17 (264) | December 7, 2016 12:47pm
Hey Bernard, nice to see you're still working on the guide. I like the item adjustments you've made.

One thing I'll point out is that, currently, putting spoilers inside of spoilers doesn't work...basically, any spoilers inside are automatically opened when the original spoiler is opened.

As such, my suggestion would be to get rid of the extra spoilers (e.g. "Further Information") and just make it a 2nd paragraph under each item.
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Bernardozomer (33) | December 8, 2016 5:50am
Hey Bran, nice to see that you're still giving me feedback and that you liked the item adjustments. I made this to give more freedom to my build and to increase its effectiveness.

I will change these spoilers inside spoilers soon.

I'm still working on the guide because I want it to be in its "complete" form before creating a guide for another guardian. I was thinking about Sobek, as he doesn't have much guides and I like to play with him (I don't have even mastery 1 with him, though).

I'm also going to update the Matchups and Gameplay section and maybe I will add a "Common Terms" section. I am also thinking of later expanding this guide to Joust too, as these (Along with Assault) are my favorite game modes.
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Branmuffin17 (264) | December 8, 2016 10:30am
Just so you don't give yourself too much work, I'd probably suggest skipping a common terms section...it is perhaps a bit more functional in broader guides (like my Overarching series), but for individual gods, I don't think it's as necessary.

A joust build version would be nice, and you making a Sobek guide is great, as we definitely need a solid one for him...but suggest getting a bit more familiar with him to learn his tricks and whatnot before creating the guide.
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Branmuffin17 (264) | November 26, 2016 5:07pm
Hey Bernard, alrighty, now that the contest is over, if you don't mind, I'll comment a bit more.

Don't know how much you've experimented, but for your Defensive Support build, my personal preference would be to choose only one of Breastplate of Valor and Genji's Guard. The specific reason for this is because as you get closer to max CDR, it becomes just a bit less important compared to some other stats...at least for me. With Shoes of Focus and BoV, you're already at 30%, and I think that a magical protection item that also offers a boost to health is a bit more important at that point. This opens you up to 3 solid alternatives... Bulwark of Hope for the largest health boost for personal function, Pestilence vs. any healers (self or group healing), and Heartward Amulet against 3 magical gods for teamfights are all solid options. Yes, Ymir has the highest base health, but that doesn't mean he won't benefit from added health...protections + health really add to your "effective health."

The following is an old article, but it's still helpful: http://www.smitecentral.com/content/articles/page/professor-proxy/professor-proxy-intermediate-class-stone-of-gaia-bulwark-of-hope-pest

Also, when you max CDR that early, you're pretty much blocking yourself from getting any other CDR item unless you're okay with inefficiencies in the build. If you don't get Genji, you can alternatively get Spirit Robe, or Mantle of Discord (with only 5% CDR inefficiency), and these are arguably better items than Genji.

So...my preference would be BoV OR Genji, but not both. Against a magical heavy team or magical ADC, I might get Genji 2nd, and instead of BoV, get a physical item with counter function, such as Sovereignty, Witchblade, or Midgardian Mail.

Regarding the Defensive Support start, Wards as starters aren't fully essential in my estimation. I think a more standard start (e.g. 4x Health Potion and Magical Potion) will allow you to stay out longer, but again, this is definitely personal preference, and you might do great with your start.

For the Aggressive Support start, same applies with BoV and Genji...here are 2 core starts I would consider, in whichever order you need:
I would follow that up with items like Ethereal Staff (you have that), Obsidian Shard (if you didn't get Void Stone), and more protection such as Mantle of Discord or Spirit Robe and any counter items.

I don't suggest Gem of Isolation on Ymir, because his freeze is going to take up almost all of Gem's slow time...it'll help with extra slows when using Glacial Strike, but I think at that point there are better items than Gem. I will say I do love Gem, but I prefer it on Guardians like Bacchus.

Remember this is my opinion, and your guide, so I'm just offering my suggestions and opinions. If you prefer your builds as they are, don't change them. Good job again on your guide and the work you've put into it.
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Branmuffin17 (264) | January 10, 2017 2:10pm
I don't remember who it was, but I'm pretty sure I saw that someone (maybe Variety?) in SWC built Breastplate of Valor and Genji's Guard back to back...granted, don't think it was Ymir, but either way someone did it.

For the average player, and me in particular, I still think I strongly prefer balancing protection with health for better survivability, but just wanted to point this out. =P
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Bernardozomer (33) | January 10, 2017 2:43pm
I thought that you had commented "I don't remember who it was, but I'm pretty sure I saw that someone already used this title". Oof, that was close (talking about it, did you liked?).

Quoted:
I don't remember who it was, but I'm pretty sure I saw that someone (maybe Variety?) in SWC built Breastplate of Valor and Genji's Guard back to back...
You always let me confuseeeeed!!!

But I agree with you, balance is always a safer and a better choice for us, mere mortals...

P.S.: Congrats for the moderator [rank?]

EDIT: Looks like i messed up with the bbcode. Fixed!
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Bernardozomer (33) | November 28, 2016 10:31am
Hi again, Bran (it rhymes!)!

About the effective health; I think you are right. After the contest ended I started to think if Genji's was or wasn't a good option... I'm going to change the core to be only Shoes of Focus and then either Breastplate of Valor or Sovereignty, I can't decide yet... Sov gives 320 effective health with the passive (I hope I did the math right), and BoV gives 0 health, so if i had to choose BoV i would probably follow with Bulwark of Hope, and if i had to go with Sov I would then buy Genji's for the CDR.

Then, a section for magical protection with Bulwark of Hope, Heartward Amulet and Genji's Guard. By following this formula: Effective health = Health / (100/(100+Protections)) I calculated that BoH gives 320 Effective Health, as SoV do; And that Heartward Amulet gives 330. So, if someone buy BoV instead of Sov, it would make a lot of sense to choose between these two.

About the starter Wards, they have actually saved me a bunch of times in casuals. I rarely play ranked, so I don't know if they have crazy junglers there... But maybe 4x Multi Potions could help more.

About the A. Support Build: I see a lot of guides with Dynasty Plate Helm and Void Stone being used in agressive support builds, but I mostly play defensively when playing support (and considering I main support, that is a lot), so I don't know about the actual effects of these items. I will test them later and see how they proceed.

As of Gem of Isolation: I still think it is a pretty good item for Ymir mainly because of Glacial Strike. I really like these slows...
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Branmuffin17 (264) | November 28, 2016 12:12pm
Hey Bernard,

Awesome...I didn't do the math myself, but sounds pretty good to me.

Yeah, the thing is balancing stats...maxing CDR on Ymir may not be as important as other things...but if YOU decide CDR is absolutely important, then just figure out how much is optimal at what stage of the match.

When considering the balance of those protection item combos, just remember their different foci and what they bring to the table. BoV and BoH are a great combo for selfish stats, Sov and Heart are great for teammates (and for sustain over longer periods of time due to the HP5/MP5), etc. Mixing it up is fine too...Any shoes + BoV + Heart would work especially well against a team with 3 magical gods, while Shoes of Focus + Sovereignty + Genji's Guard would be a good starting balance of CDR and team physical protection, should you choose to go that route.

Starter Wards...huh...maybe that's why in some games I'm going uh...guys...why is the mid crashing our party? Warning, anyone? And that's with my normal clanmates lol. But the early sustain is just too nice...though lately I've been finding that I haven't needed all of the potions as much. I would just worry about running out of health/mana quickly, especially with Multi Potion.

For aggressives...those items are nice. Really, though, in Conquest, I wouldn't go both of those items...I'd choose one for early aggression, but get a more standard support item to balance things...the time when I go Shoes of the Magi + Dynasty Plate Helm + Void Stone is when I'm playing Joust/Siege/Arena/Clash and going cheap damage for early dominance.
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Bernardozomer (33) | November 25, 2016 1:28pm
Changelog is now on the guide's bottom!
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IceColdPappsi (13) | November 15, 2016 8:55pm
If im gonna review, I gotta do it right.

Build wise, awesome. Can't judge you on that. You covered all the points, and builds are subjective, but you need to defend them.

As a whole, very Zilby-like. You did say that he did play a part in helping you with the template. In the future, tho, mess around with the coding and teach yourself so you can develop your own sort of style and signature. I mean, every Bran guide has a MS paint header, and every Prism guide has a sign off with a cool skin. Me, I am starting to do this fun thing on the side with hidden messages.

I was wondering why you do have a solo build. I have not seen a Ymir solo, nor is it in the Spl, correct me. For one, Ymir doesnt have huge sustain like heals or protections steals, and his main damage and CC is too up close. Also, his mobility and kit is too clunky and has no escape, and while it all does fit this theme of icy and snow with stuns and slows (bars), it doesn't scream Solo. By that alone, he is beat by almost every warrior, and some mages. However, the general tips you left were helpful to get new players into the this new solo idea.

Overall, great guide, considering its your first. Don't change anything until after the judging period. Don't think you'll have enough time, and don't wanna stress you. GLHF in the future. +1.
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Branmuffin17 (264) | November 15, 2016 9:23pm
Sorry Papps, gonna point out one more thing...Ducks' guide.

http://www.smitefire.com/smite/guide/squeezing-loving-george-may-or-may-not-be-included-ymir-guide-s3-solo-jungle-14929

Pro scene...Variety of Obey Alliance (EU): http://esports.smitegame.com/player/variety/

Regarding Zilby's template...he made it directly available in guide format for others to use if they wanted.

http://www.smitefire.com/smite/guide/a-template-for-guides-11963

But yes, always best to develop your own. But as a first-time guide maker, and with limited time to learn coding, I'd say Bernard (and all of the other newer members with submissions) is at a disadvantage to others, who have already made guides before, gotten feedback, and have more experience at it. So using a base template at first is probably the smartest idea...and of course, everyone has lives outside of SMITE. I think.

What I sort of am most interested about is the feeling from all of the contributors, especially the newer ones. I'll probably ask that separately.
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Zilby (132) | November 16, 2016 12:24am
I definitely wouldn't criticize someone for using a template, as long as your guide is clean and the bbcode makes it readable and easy to access the information, there's really nothing to complain about. Admittedly adding some embellishments can be a nice touch, but in terms of how important that is, it's probably at the bottom end of the spectrum.

I mean even for my first guide I used OmgAsia's guide as a sort of makeshift template for myself to lay out my Nox guide. Of course since then my guide changed quite a bit so you can't see what it looked like back then, but it was writing that guide that made me realize how helpful it can be to utilize a template for creating your first guide (especially since back then without my template guide I had to figure out all the bbcode myself and the end result took way longer because of this).

@Bernardozomer only real recommendation I can make is regarding your skill order for the aggressive support and solo build. In solo especially, I would prioritize Glacial Strike over Frost Breath, leveling it up at level 6 and 7 and getting it to max level at level 10. In solo this really helps you clear the wave more easily (and not have to burn two abilities to do so) and in support this really lets you use your Shoes of the Magi to deal a lot of damage to the enemy with Glacial Strike's base damage. If you choose Shoes of Focus or other shoes like in your more defensive build, it can be nice to level up Frost Breath a little earlier for the extra CC so that your ADC can do more damage to your enemy and to keep them locked down for longer, but otherwise I would wait to level that ability up next.
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Bernardozomer (33) | November 12, 2016 5:14am
Updated the guide with lots of changes! Mostly thankfully to Branmuffin17!
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Bernardozomer (33) | November 14, 2016 1:44pm
Updated guide again, now with SOLO LANE BUILD! Go check it out!
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Bernardozomer (33) | November 15, 2016 9:42am
Updated once more, now with GAMEPLAY TIPS and MATCHUPS sections!
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Branmuffin17 (264) | November 11, 2016 8:11pm
Yes, I think the system automatically categorizes any guides over 1,000 characters as a guide, rather than just a build. If you go to the main Ymir page, it has a list of guides for that god, starting with full S3 guides, then S3 builds, then older guides below that. You're in the guide category, and you're plenty over the 1,000 character minimum.

As for wards, I think they look generally fine. I would say that there is one other general section that can be useful, if you can sneak them in without the enemy seeing...right in front of their towers...since there's a lot of traffic that can go through the mid-lane, getting that junction can help give you early warning where the enemy can be heading. But yeah, looks solid to me.
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Bernardozomer (33) | November 15, 2016 1:02pm
Updated the Warding section as you said (at least i think it's now correct)!
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Branmuffin17 (264) | November 10, 2016 2:56pm
Hi Bernard,

Welcome, and thanks for participating in the contest.

For now, I'm just going to point out a significant issue with your build(s). It's about CDR...there's a max cap of 40%. In your Defensive build, your 3 core items get you to that cap. If you do consider these "core," then all items past that point should not have CDR, unless there's a specific passive you just absolutely can't pass up for other reasons.

So, your option of Spirit Robe and Mantle of Discord both blow you past the cap.

In your Aggressive build, it's not quite as bad, but your "damage" option outside of your core has Pythagorem's Piece, which would put you at the cap...and then also Mantle of Discord again, as an option for item #6.

Build efficiency is important to consider, so just want to make sure you're aware of this. Hope this helps!
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Bernardozomer (33) | November 10, 2016 4:14pm
Hi, Branmuffin17!

First of all, thanks for the feedback. I REALLY aprecciate it.
As for Spirit Robe, for me, the best part of the item is its passive, that work very well against high-CC enemy comps, and, in my opinion, better than Magi's Blessing. Plus, 40 Physical and Magical protections can really help. However, I would only suggest buying this if you are dying because of CC and/or your team is behind, so you won't be able to stack Hide of the Urchin.

As for Mantle of Discord, it gives you 60 Physical and Magical protections, so whenever i can, i buy this item. Plus, it has a really helpful passive.

As for Pythagorem's Piece, i am thinking of removing it from my build, as its Lifesteal and CDR are a waste of space, and its passive doesn't seem that good...

I noticied you said "For now, I'm just going to point out a significant issue with your build(s)." so i think this means my build has some more issues. One of those may be that counterbuilding as 5-6 item(s) is too late, i'm going to change this order a bit. So if there are more issues and/or typos (English is not my mother language) then please, tell me! It really helps!
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Branmuffin17 (264) | November 10, 2016 4:32pm
Hey Bernard, I'm trying not to influence builds too much, so other than pointing out potential issues, I don't want to suggest alternatives...it's your guide, so it's your decision in the end.

I just was a bit busy so didn't read everything you wrote...I will do so later and give a bit more feedback. Didn't specifically mean there were other issues with the build...just wanted to point out my first thoughts.

I will say that it's really a better idea not to overcap. This is because each item has a set number of stats...and you're paying for them. If part of what you buy doesn't function for you, it's bringing in inefficiencies, and you're not only paying for more than you get, but you're also losing out on other things that you could get with other items.

I absolutely understand the qualities that Spirit and Discord provide...but you might need to consider which ones you value most, and just deal with the loss of the others.

Anyway, will follow up more later.
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