First game in quite a while, was basically laning 1v2 vs Vulcan and Arachne for most of that but I managed to hold out while occasionally baiting them into bad fights whenever Bakasura or any of my other teammates was around to help.
Thing is I had no idea what to build while laning against this; I opted for Hide of the Urchin first since it gives both physical and magical protection (while I would normally focus on one of those two first depending on my lane opponent), and then started building into Frostbound Hammer because I buy that item way too often and am pretty sure I overvalue it.
So, with that in mind, two questions:
1) Which Warrior items are good early purchases for some "hybrid" defense? Is Hide of the Urchin among them?
2) How good is Frostbound Hammer and should I tell myself to stop buying it regularly on Warriors?
I think your consideration to go Hide of the Urchin was appropriate, since you were facing a physical AND a magical at the same time. There aren't a lot of other choices that provide dual protections while also being functionally optimal at that early stage of the game. Other choices would sort of include:
Shifter's Shield (aggressive, and you only get the magical protection when you're below 50% health, so that's not so good)
Spirit Robe (as a 2nd item, I don't like it as much, especially because it provides no health...I usually like it mid-game or later)
I left out less functional ones that technically qualify, including Magi's Blessing and Masamune (and Gauntlet of Thebes which holy hell fell off the face of the planet).
As for Frostbound Hammer, I think it's a pretty good item overall...it's got good bruiser properties, providing both power and health...but for Erlang Shen, he does have his 72 Transformations ES mink form, which provides 4 seconds of Hastened Katana effect. If you're focusing one god, I think that should usually be enough to allow you to stick. Not that it's a bad item...and he is basic-attack oriented (with regard to damage), though you do want some CDR on him.
I'd consider Hammer more if you didn't get Hide of the Urchin first...if you got an item (like Gladiator's Shield) before it that didn't have health, the health from Hammer would be more appreciated.
So in the end, I wouldn't default to Frostbound for every warrior, but it's definitely functional.
Just a Ares ranked game. Running around being a "****".
Here is the guru page, if you feel like watching the whole thing. Went for shoguns to help out merc and cupid also ended up picking up a discord because the game went on pretty long and I needed a selfish item. Could also have gone nemian, but rama wasn't really a huge problem. I also wanted to check if Discord was considdered an aura. Dont think it was, I was drunk and it was like 7am so I can't remember :p
Rushed Gauntlet of Thebes after because I figured I needed to stack it early
Realized Gauntlet stacks quicker than I thought and I probably should've gone Sovereignty first, so went for that next
Picked up Mantle of Discord because at this stage we were very much teamfighting and I was always in the middle of the action
Had zero idea what to round off the build with, so I just clicked something in the recommended tab, i.e. Stone of Binding (which, looking back at it now, doesn't look like a late game item at all).
What should my last item have been? Also, what is the normal starting Relic for supports? I tend to go for Magic Shell but I'm not sure that's optimal.
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