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Size isn't Everything! - Ratatoskr Complete Guide for Junglers and Solo Laners (S7, 7.6)

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Purchase Order

Powerful Chipmunk (Standard Jungle Build) Notes An Standard build for a jungle Ratatoskr. Everything you need: Cooldown, mana regen, hp, protections and power.

If available, sell Acorn of Yggdrasil to buy Heartseeker late game after you buy the Elixir of Speed. You may get Ancile instead Runic Shield but you might have to switch it for another item late game.

Build Item Acorn of Yggdrasil Acorn of Yggdrasil
Build Item The Crusher The Crusher
Build Item Transcendence Transcendence
Build Item Void Shield Void Shield
Build Item Ancile Ancile
Build Item Arondight Arondight
Build Item Heartseeker Heartseeker

Start Notes Rush acorn as soon as possible!!

Alternative Start can be: 2 Healing Potion + Hand of the Gods + Morningstar if you intend to rush Transcendence after the Acorn.

Another Alternative Start can be: 2 Healing Potion + Acorn of Swiftness if you intend to rush Acorn of YYgdrasil as soon as possible.

Build Item Assassin's Blessing Assassin's Blessing
Build Item Magic Acorn Magic Acorn
Build Item Mace Mace
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Hand of the Gods Hand of the Gods

Core Items Notes Items that work VERY WELL with our little chipmunk so I wouldn't recommend you miss them on ANY build.

Basically, all builds should have these items!!!

Build Item The Crusher The Crusher
Build Item Heartseeker Heartseeker
Build Item Void Shield Void Shield

Power Items Notes Damage and Bruiser options. bruiser Items are those that provide power and defenses or other tank stats like HP ( Blackthorn Hammer). If you do Gladiator's Shield, consider replace it late game. Core Items won't be displayed here!!!!

Build Item Ancile Ancile
Build Item Blackthorn Hammer Blackthorn Hammer
Build Item Bloodforge Bloodforge
Build Item Brawler's Beat Stick Brawler's Beat Stick
Build Item Gladiator's Shield Gladiator's Shield
Build Item Hydra's Lament Hydra's Lament
Build Item Jotunn's Wrath Jotunn's Wrath
Build Item Masamune Masamune
Build Item Shifter's Shield Shifter's Shield
Build Item Runic Shield Runic Shield
Build Item Runeforged Hammer Runeforged Hammer
Build Item Soul Eater Soul Eater
Build Item Stone Cutting Sword Stone Cutting Sword
Build Item Titan's Bane Titan's Bane
Build Item Transcendence Transcendence
Build Item Arondight Arondight

Defensive options Notes Some defensive options to help you stay alive. Use only if needed, always prefer bruiser items for jungle.

Build Item Contagion Contagion
Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Hide of the Urchin Hide of the Urchin
Build Item Bulwark of Hope Bulwark of Hope
Build Item Magi's Cloak Magi's Cloak
Build Item Pestilence Pestilence

Little giant chipmunk (High Early Pressure Build) Notes Shifter's Shield provides a very good amount of power for an early game and if you start to die, it provides some defenses. You also are plenty of CDR and Pen. This is probably the easiest way to try to for a surrender due a hard snowball you can do. Late game however you are not tanky enough and you may also take a lot of magical damage.

You may also change the Void Shield into another defense like a magical defense if needed.

If available, sell Acorn of Yggdrasil to buy Heartseeker late game after you buy the Elixir of Speed.

Build Item Acorn of Yggdrasil Acorn of Yggdrasil
Build Item Shifter's Shield Shifter's Shield
Build Item The Crusher The Crusher
Build Item Arondight Arondight
Build Item Void Shield Void Shield
Build Item Jotunn's Wrath Jotunn's Wrath
Build Item Heartseeker Heartseeker

Glass Canon Chipmunk (Full power build) Notes Warning! With this build you can kill a lot at early and mid game but you will die a lot at late game and won't be able to do anything unless you just KS.

If possible, sell Acorn of Yggdrasil to buy Heartseeker late game after you buy the Elixir of Speed.

Build Item Acorn of Yggdrasil Acorn of Yggdrasil
Build Item The Crusher The Crusher
Build Item Transcendence Transcendence
Build Item Soul Eater Soul Eater
Build Item Arondight Arondight
Build Item Blackthorn Hammer Blackthorn Hammer
Build Item Heartseeker Heartseeker

Anti Heal build Notes Build focusing in deny the enemy healing. Useful against huge lifesteals as Anubis or against healers as Aphrodite, Hel and others...

if the solo/support already have Pestilence or Contagion, build anything else.

Sell Acorn of Yggdrasil to buy Masamune late game after you have bought Elixir of Speed

Build Item Acorn of Yggdrasil Acorn of Yggdrasil
Build Item Brawler's Beat Stick Brawler's Beat Stick
Build Item The Crusher The Crusher
Build Item Void Shield Void Shield
Build Item Jotunn's Wrath Jotunn's Wrath
Build Item Heartseeker Heartseeker
Build Item Masamune Masamune

True Damage Rat Notes Build made to help you achieve true damage early game so you can hit like a truck anyone in the game (tanks and squishes).

Sell Acorn of Yggdrasil to buy Heartseeker late game after you have bought Elixir of Speed.

Build Item Acorn of Yggdrasil Acorn of Yggdrasil
Build Item The Crusher The Crusher
Build Item Stone Cutting Sword Stone Cutting Sword
Build Item Arondight Arondight
Build Item Void Shield Void Shield
Build Item Jotunn's Wrath Jotunn's Wrath
Build Item Heartseeker Heartseeker

Alternative Build Notes Sell Acorn of Yggdrasil to buy Heartseeker late game after you have bought Elixir of Speed.

Build Item Acorn of Yggdrasil Acorn of Yggdrasil
Build Item The Crusher The Crusher
Build Item Arondight Arondight
Build Item Void Shield Void Shield
Build Item Ancile Ancile
Build Item Pridwen Pridwen
Build Item Heartseeker Heartseeker

Relics Notes See relics section in "Builds and Itemization" to know more about the relics.

Build Item Blink Rune Blink Rune
Build Item Purification Beads Purification Beads
Build Item Aegis Amulet Aegis Amulet
Build Item Heavenly Wings Heavenly Wings
Build Item Horrific Emblem Horrific Emblem

Ratatoskr's Skill Order

Dart

Dart

1 X
3 15 16 18 19
Flurry

Flurry

2 A
2 4 6 7 10
Acorn Blast

Acorn Blast

3 B
1 8 11 12 14
Through the Cosmos

Through the Cosmos

4 Y
5 9 13 17 20

Introduction



Art by Hadassa
My name is x MysTeRioN z, a majority Xbox Player but sometimes I play on PC too. I'm a Brazilian nice guy who likes to play FPS, Racing, Plataform and RPG games. I like to study and read when I'm not playing and I'm also studying to be a lawyer. My xbox gamertag is the same as here: x MysterioN z.


I'm here to crack nuts and pick flowers bring you this quick guide to play with Ratatoskr on solo lane and jungle. My objective here is tell every single detail about rat and his gameplay and create a giant and informative guide (such as my Love, find your mark!).

Credits on the Image


"Hey, keep your eyes off my nuts" - Ratatoskr


I want to tell you everything you need to know about this cute little guy so you can play with him in solo or jungle. I personally love this character because he is fun, funny and has the best VP and personality on the entire Smite and whoever disagree is wrong >:( !!!

Anyway, as his Eager Skin would say, LEEET'S GOOO!!!!!

Stats


General
Health: 420 (+73)
Mana: 240 (+41)
Speed: 375 (+0)
Range: 12 (+0)
Attack/Sec: 1 (+2%)
Regen
HP5: 9 (+0.7)
MP5: 4.6 (+0.46)
Protection
Magical: 30 (+0.9)
Physical: 12 (+3)
Basic Attack
Damage: 39 (+ 2.25) (+ 100% of Physical Power)
Progression: 1/0.5/0.5/1.25x (AoE in last hit)
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Pros and Cons



Jungle

Pros
  1. Excellent early/mid game

  2. Excellent chase/escape potential

  3. Excellent pressure with ulti

  4. Excellent self setup

  5. Great Burst

  6. Easy to play (and stomp)

  7. Cutest god of all
    the game
Art by Lovi Davi
Cons
  1. Squishy

  2. Bad passive

  3. HIGH COODLOWNS

  4. Damage potential fall at late game

  5. Mana hungry if you cast too many skills

  6. Nerfs, nerfs and nerfs...

  7. Can be annoying sometimes :p


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Solo

Pros
  1. High damage early game

  2. Excellent chase/escape potential

  3. Excellent wave clear and poke

  4. Complete kit for solo

  5. Can be reasonably tank and still hurting

  6. Easy to play (and stomp)

  7. Cutest god of all
    the game
Art by JT
Cons
  1. Not tank enough without
    sacrifice damage

  2. HIGH COODLOWNS

  3. Damage potential fall at late game

  4. Mana hungry if you lose
    totem and blue

  5. Nerfs, nerfs and nerfs... 2.0

  6. Can be annoying sometimes :p 2.0


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Skills



Acorn of Yggdrasil
Type: Passive

Healing: 15 (+ 15% of your physical power)

Ratatoskr replaces boots with a powerful accorn from the tree of world. He can upgrade this acorn from anywhere and when fully upgraded, each time ratatoskr hits anything with a skill he is healed.

details

Obs.: You need to stop moving to upgrade it.


Dart
Type: Dash
Cooldown: 14 secs

Damage: 70/105/140/175/210 (+ 70% of your physical power)
Slow: 20/25/30/35/40%


Ratatoskr go ahead dashing forward passing through minions and stopping after traveled 55 unities or hit an enemy god, what happen first. If he hits a god, the god are also slowed for 3 secs.

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Each time the other skills successfully hits an enemy, the Dart cooldown is reseted by 1 sec.


Flurry
Type: Area
Cooldown: 14 secs

Damage: 25/40/55/70/85 (+ 25% of your physical power)
Maximum Damage: 100/160/220/280/340 (+ 100% of your physical power)
Physical Protection Reduction: 2/3/4/5/6 per tick


Ratatoskr spins around himself in an area of 20 unities, doing damage and reducing enemy physical protections up to 4 times.

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This skill reduces Dart's cooldown by 1 second


Acorn Blast
Type: Projectiles, Cone
Cooldown: 15 secs

Damage: 40/55/70/85/100 (+ 30% of your physical power) (per acorn)
Maximum Damage: 120/165/210/255/300 (+ 90% of your physical power)
Stun: 1 sec


Ratatoskr fire 3 acorns in a cone area each one dealing damage. Enemies hit by all 3 are also stunned for 1 sec.

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This skill reduces Dart's cooldown by 1 second


Through the Cosmos
Type: Ground Target
Cooldown: 110 - 90 secs

Damage: 200/260/320/380/440 (+ 70% of your physical power)


Ratatoskr chagers up and jump in a branch of tree of world. He can jump in more 2 branches and then choose a land location. Rat can stay 5 secs on the branches reseting 3 secs for each jump he does. When landing, rat does damage and knockup all enemies in the area. You can also cancel this skill to jump at current location (or when it times out) and if it is an invalid location, rat will land in last valid location.

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Skill Order



Art by Shadik
Although is written in each skill what should be prioritize, asked by the big muffin I will put the order here. You might also check the general leveling order after the builds.


solo

Jungle

Alternative Jungle


Skill Combos



Solo


solo combos


Jungle


jungle combos



How to play

How to play in Solo

solo

How to play in Jungle

jungle


Warding



what are these points?


Builds and Itemization



Before read this section, remember that Solo and Jungle builds are completely different and your playstyle will also be completely different too, so, don't forget to click on the "Solo build" button on the top right near the "Newest gods part" ;) .


How to Build

Now I will talk about of how you should build Rat properly, what your build must have to be decent and viable on a Ratatoskr.



how to build

Builds

In this section I tell you pros and cons of each build and for each situation each build were made for. If you wanna see comments about specific items on the builds, them go to the "Itemization" section.

Please don't forget to read the notes of each build, they have important comments ;)


jungle

solo

Builds have important things write on notes, don't forget to check it!!!!



Itemization

In this section I will see how some items works on Ratatoskr and their viability in a build to this "god".



Itemization


Tips to your match


Relics


Relics

Here are the relics you may use and my thoughts about it.

Solo

Jungle


Random Facts


  • Ratatoskr was released at SMITE Version 2.7.2766 (June 2, 2015)

  • Ratatoskr used to have 4 different acorns at his launch, each one doing something different (opening a lot of possibilities of builds)

  • All ratatoskr skills were balanced/modified when he was reworked at patch 3.9.3413 (May 24, 2016).

  • Ratatoskr is mentioned in INCREDIBLE 21 different patches where ONLY 1 WAS A BUFF. The rest of patches were bug fixes, the rework and nerfs after nerfs. (And yet he is NOT WEAK!)
Art by TheYaminoTenshi via FurAffinity
  • Ratatoskr used to be able to use, incredibly, 6 dashes of 35 unities when he was launch using dart Dart. Every dash could fire lightnings that were able to crit, allowing ratatoskr to deal almost 8k damage with this skill against squishy comps. That's 1 skill, you had other 3 :p.

  • Rat (along with Bellona, Baron Samedi and Guan Yu) is considered one of the most overpowered gods ever launched on this game.

  • Ratatoskr rework was a mistake because it removed his other acorns keeping only one as single option and his kit became a " Thor but better", until Thor, at patch 6.8.5557.1 (July 24, 2019) received major buffs and a slight rework on his 3, making now Thor a " Ratatoskr but better". At least Rat is more fun/funny than Thor.

  • Ratatoskr received since his launch 33, I repeat, THIRTY THREE nerfs and ONLY 2 buffs in all patches he is mentioned. Ironically, these 2 buffs were reverting previous nerfs.
Art by Andantonius via DeviantArt
  • Ratatoskr is a Tree Squirrel.

  • The skin "Squirrel Squad" could have been based on the character Rocky the Flying Squirrel from the american cartoon The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends.

  • The name "Ragnatoskr" is a mix between the word "Ragnarok" and "Ratatoskr". As you see, he wears a costume of Fenrir, the bringer or Ragnarok. Rat shouts a lot in this skin Voice Pack.

  • On his festive Skin, Rat is dressed as like Rudolph. He also seems to sing when saying his "Ultimate is ready/down" line. This skin has the most calm voices lines.

  • Kitsune is the only skin where Rat is not a Squirrel, instead, he is a Fox. This is the first time a Ratatoskr skin with a custom VP doesn't mention nuts and it's also one of the few skins in the game to use cell shading (which made it kinda "ugly"). It also has 2 recolors, Kage (Shadow in Japanese) and Zenko. By having all the 3 you automatically unlock Final Fusion skin.
  • The Curious Creature, he's best skin is a reference to the Disney movie Zootopia. This skin was based on A Fan art made by Ena Lorenzo, who work at Alacrity Arthouse and made a draw called "Smetitopia", honestly, best skin theme ever. Both this skin and Heavy Hitter Anubis are in the card art of Geek Beak Thoth skin, that shares its theme with both.

  • Rat also have one of the most annoying laughs in the game. His Standard VP is also pretty damn good, better than a lot of Standard VP and better than a lot of skins...Including Curious Creature.

  • Ratatoskr dance is based on "Alvin and the Chipmunks: Born This Way" (At 0:53) from their 3rd movie (I do hate that movie, they should have made it based on "How we Roll" from the first movie. Even the music would fit him better).

  • This guide name is based on a Ratatoskr line when he destroys a Structure.

Remember what rat says!

Ratatoskr just want to ask to hirez...

If you have any doubt that rat can do any role, watch this!


Final Considerations



"ACORNS! Hum, yummy!!!" - Ratatoskr


Best Ratatoskr skin ever (Curious Creature)


My conclusion is that Rat is working very good at solo lane (An A solo laner), and still a good character at jungle (an A+ jungler) and can be a very fun character to play in both roles. He also has excellent skins, a funny personality with also funny voice lines and is very cute :3 . Can't see any reason to not play with him :v and have a lot of fun!!!!

Following the quick guide I posted here you will do a nice job with him in both roles!!! So let's go now, let's throw some Acorns around :p !!!!



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Art by Zennore via DeviantArt

Don't forget to leave your upvote if you liked this guide and a comment ;)


That's it, thank you for reading my guide! Buh Bye!!!


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The Unknown2508 | June 15, 2020 4:28am
Do you need to sell the accorn endgame for something?
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xmysterionz (58) | June 15, 2020 12:36pm
Usually yes. Although the acorn is pretty decent, there are better items at late game :p
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Kriega1 (109) | June 15, 2020 4:36am
You can, or you can prioritise 3k pots / upgrading relics first. But eventually at some point you do buy Speed Pot and sell Acorn for something else yes.
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Cactus owo | May 22, 2020 1:02pm
I signed in just to share my experience with this guide and withRatatoskr, the god that I saw for first time back in arena and joust, when i was pretty newbie, I said, "Who's this little guy and why nobody picks him?" Then bough him, despite he seems very weak, but he can actually set off someone by just doing 2 and 3 and some autoattacks, I obviously build him with rare items like full critics or AS, then i started playing conquests, mostly of my experience came along, when i met this guide because the builds that I took from arena was garbage and weren't working, I tried some of your season 6 builds, which worked a lot, also these tips served me very well, enough, that i started using Rat in solo as well, the only way i could lost a solo lane were going against a Bellona or an Arthur.

I started playing rankeds and experiencing with the building, now I ended using a build like this:
Start with tier 2 Acorn, Jungle bless and a potion, obligatorily drink the potion when I'm clearing the XP camp next to the Speed one and the shrine and then clear the solo's camp, it will give enough time to be at the totem of Ku at 0:55, something that can make a difference is getting a little money boost at the start, take it, After doing Ku's, i can start jungling normally, an average build i would do is something like this, and his explanation:

Acorn of Yggdrasil > Transcendence > Jotunn's Wrath > Hide of the Urchin > Void Shield / Arondight > Runic Shield and then, the last item which I allways do Masamune OR any defensive option. Transcendence after the Acorn so you can start stacking earlier and get the extra mana, mp5' and power scale, next, Jotun's instead of The Crusher, ¿Why? Because the crusher never does all the damage you want, +15 flat pen, attack speed (which is not that important), power and an useful passive that can hurt your enemies and also can hurt you if you don't get it, but there is why Jotun's instead, +10 pen, +20% CD reduction and 250 mana that can scale power with trans is exactly what you need to literally burst everything early game, possibly the best choice to definitely avoid being out of mana and full cooldown on every skill. Next is a bit catchy, I'm not so fan of getting Void Shield just because Hide of the Urchin is cheaper, very easy to stack and grants you 51-51 protections, 250 health and mana; the protections because, Rat really needs it to not being the average squishy jungle, and also a shield, HP and Mana that really heps you to tank a little as well as kicking ***. Next is between Void Shield and Arondight; Void Shield because of his passive and these 60 physical protections and the power (I forgot how much power) to keep kicking ***, Arondight because it grants +10% CD reduction, 90 PHYSICAL POWER and a passive that can mark the way of the match's middle game phase just by engaging on every teamfight as you can, its potential to reveal near enemies and chase them and the damn power which is allways welcome on Ratatoskr. Runic Shield is pretty the same as Void Shield; protections, power and health, I would not get Ancile because its passive is not as good as it can be (1s silence ON MAGICAL ENEMIES, lol, what a lame), and also The % CDR you already have with Jotunn's and Arondight, also, it should be late game , where you commonly buy some 500g potions that provides +10% CDR, another reason to avoid Ancile. Last item is completely optional, because i sometimes keep my Acorn because of its 20% movement speed and power, I end up selling it for speed potions but NEVER RUSH IT because it isn't that necessary, after that i would get Masamune, as Mysterion said, these 2% extra MS is missing a lot, but i remark that there is an option for any defensive item such as Oni's hunter garb or even Pestilence, both are extremely optional, because there was a match where my team could no anything without a frontline, and our frontline were a full dmg Ymir, I sold most of my items to build a tank Ratatank and manage to take dmg, doing dmg and pick kills very well in way to a turnover, that type of situation is which I would completely change my build.

Finished, ¿Any opinion?

Also, Thx Mysterion, your guide helped me to master one of the most undervalued, misunderstood and funny gods to play, also in solo, it's so ironic that i can bully the lane to some muscular dudes and mad lads WITH A SQUIRREL lol!, even on rankeds. +1 :D
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Devampi (96) | May 23, 2020 7:28am
Can you explain to me why you start T2 acorn instead of starting with Mace or morning star. IMO those starts are stronger as you can upgrade acorn while jungling so when you go for a first gank you can have 20 or 25 power as you will have reached the 700 gold at that point (and not yet the 900) instead of 10.
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xmysterionz (58) | May 22, 2020 1:29pm
Cactus owo wrote:

Also, Thx Mysterion, your guide helped me to master one of the most undervalued, misunderstood and funny gods to play, also in solo, it's so ironic that i can bully the lane to some muscular dudes and mad lads WITH A SQUIRREL lol!, even on rankeds. +1 :D

Hahaha is there a better feeling than that?

Talking about your build, you wrote a giant wall of text and I'm afraid I lost some details reading it. So you are suggesting: Acorn of Yggdrasil > Transcendence > Jotunn's Wrath > Hide of the Urchin > Void Shield / Arondight > Runic Shield and last item Masamune to replace the Acorn, right? And you asked my thoughts about it, right?
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Cactus owo | May 22, 2020 1:38pm
xmysterionz wrote:

Talking about your build, you wrote a giant wall of text and I'm afraid I lost some details reading it. So you are suggesting: Acorn of Yggdrasil > Transcendence > Jotunn's Wrath > Hide of the Urchin > Void Shield / Arondight > Runic Shield and last item Masamune to replace the Acorn, right? And you asked my thoughts about it, right?

Yep, I think I wrote too much lol
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SquatchHammer | January 31, 2020 7:24am
Should I run HOG? Is it worth buying straight off the bat? I noticed it kinda helps with speed in clearing camps but it really doesn't seem that useful, but I see a lot of other junglers using it. Also, should heartseeker come sooner or later? It seems like I fall behind if i purchase it too late, but it also seems like I die more often when I get it sooner, whats a good time to get it?
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Cactus owo | May 22, 2020 1:29pm
I would completely avoid getting HOG instead of a potion to start, due to the balance changes, mostly of people didn't noticed that the shrine acts like a guard at the first minute of the match, that also slows and applies a mortal debuff on those who thred on.
So there is no need of HOG.
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xmysterionz (58) | May 22, 2020 1:37pm
You may get HoG for a faster clear and lose less HP for jg camps. You can also use it to secure mid harpies if needed.
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Kriega1 (109) | January 31, 2020 8:46am
I wouldn't recommend buying HOG.
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xmysterionz (58) | January 31, 2020 10:19am
It can have some function if you want to avoid a possible invade or to speed up a bit your clear to get the mid harpies, however it's definitely a situational item.
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xmysterionz (58) | January 31, 2020 8:23am
Hello Squatch,
First about HOG. Can be a decent option to speed up your early clear to contest the mid harpies (in this case secure it with no fights) or even use it to secure the harpies. I can't see much use of it outside the "anti invade". I personally think the potions allow you to make some early ganks and some sustain to get your acorn online + t1 item on your first rotation, so it's better in IMO.

About Heartseeker, it depends what you like and if you are fed or not. If you get a lot of kills and got fed you can build HS instead of Pridwen and let prid be your last item. But if you are not fed, at least for me, better safe than sorry, so follow the traditional build. Just do pick it too early like 3rd or 4th item because people don't have decent amount of HP to proc its passive decently and it's also too expensive for an early item. Usually a good spot is the 5th/6th slot.

Just a comment, the "fall behind" you talk about is very common on Ratatoskr I also mentioned it. Your kit has pretty decent damage and setup early game but late game, although you have damage due your high scalings your are TOO squishy for the damage you take. So late game, fight with your team until you have your HS online and avoid fight alone/vs tanks.
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xmysterionz (58) | January 27, 2020 5:26pm
Comments below this are from Season 6 and the ones above from Season 7!
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xmysterionz (58) | January 20, 2020 10:01am
Posting new builds for S7 waiting some feedback. The build text wasn't updated yet, just the builds
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Branmuffin17 (313) | January 20, 2020 11:28am
So right now, the main Jungle build I see is: Acorn of Yggdrasil, The Crusher, Stone Cutting Sword, Void Shield, Arondight, Pridwen, Heartseeker.

I think Crusher is a solid 2nd item. The AS will help with his camp clear when he's not using his abilities, and the flat pen is important early game.

I'm a bit less sure of Stone Cutting Sword in the 3rd spot. Yes, the MS is always appreciated...and yes, he can attack cancel between abilities and in those chances he can get maximum effectiveness from the item. That said, I think he might be better served with a bit of CDR here, or pure flat pen. I'm not saying this item is a bad choice, just that I think there might be better ones. Brawler's Beat Stick or Jotunn's Wrath come to mind as both have additional flat pen, or if you want to stack at that point, Transcendence.

I wonder how effective Void Shield will be in the mid-game...since the change from flat protection reduction to 15% protection reduction, it's not bad against any god at that point that has built at least 1 physical protection item, but if your main focus is to target the back-line squishies, I don't know that this is best at this point. It's absolutely an option, but not sure it's the best. You might even consider a pure defensive item, since that seems to be the trend since there's less flat pen (particularly on the magical defense side).

I've never used Arondight so you're best to identify how good it is in that position. I don't think Pridwen is as good of an option, though, when to that point you've only built a single protection item (Void...SCS doesn't quite count).

Heartseeker, of course, is a solid item no matter what, and it fits well in that last position.

Thoughts?
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xmysterionz (58) | January 21, 2020 4:56am
The Crusher is just the perfect early game item to him, every single stat helps Rat a lot.
Stone Cutting Sword can be useful because you will have the AS from Crusher and with Void losing flat pen I think you need to replace that flat pen with another item. Not sure if SCS will be the best option here, but the price for the MS, power pen+protc seems to worth anyway. This is something I can only tell with details when season arrives, but I do think this item will be a great option for rat now. Also, you don't need CDR that early on Rat. Usually your engages can only apply 1 combo so it's not that necessary, you can build for the ulti only though. I was thinking about switch SWS with Arondight but I'm not sure...

IMO, Void Shield will be a great mid game item because enemies will have decent pen vs squishes and tanks. It also brings power, good amount of physical protections (advantage vs the enemy jg and ADC as well the solo (usually)) and also HP, welcome on the assassin with the lowest HP pool.

Arondight brings insane amount of power and CDR for a reasonable price allied with a passive that is extremely useful when you jump on fight letting you get an additional burst damage to focus quickly a target then move to another one due the movespeed increase. Pridwen comes as the main CDR item, bringing protections + a shield (180 HP shield) when jumping on someone. It's very useful due the slow, the minor shield and CDR. If you switch it for another item, I recommend that you build a defense. I really doubt Rat will be good full power.

That's my initial thoughts, some of them I'm already sure about it, some of them I need see in practice on Jan 28th.
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GaseousClay (1) | July 29, 2019 2:04am
New to rat (only 3 games), so a stupid question.
How do I ult from 1st branch, haha. I put my "Circle" on target but I keep jumping to another branch -_-'

Also, wouldn't my combo to be in point blank range to hit w/ all 3 acorns for stun be 1,3,2 ? Or 4,3 . T
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xmysterionz (58) | July 29, 2019 6:22am
Hello Gaseous,
Well to jump from the current branch you are, just cancel your skill using The Right Mouse button. If you use your the left one he will jump to another one until you have jumped to all 3 branches.

About the combos, if you checked the combos sections in both jungle and solo, the combo you described is already listed. And yes, you should use 4 to apply the knockup, then 3 to apply the stun, then 2, the main source of damage and protection reduction, then 1 to apply the slow and keep your target closer to you and for last, finish with basic attacks. If you don't start with your ulti, then start with your 1 skill the combo and follow the same order.
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Vini_sds (10) | May 29, 2019 6:28am
Hey Myst. I think this is the first time I post in this guide.

Alright, some comments on the jungle builds.

1. Why do you level up Acorn Blast first? I always thought you should level up Flurry due to quick clear.

2. You list Transcendence in all your builds, but is it really necessary when Blackthorn Hammer is also being built? I mean, Rat is really mana hungry and the mana/power from Trans is really good, but I have been playing without Trans and I don't miss it.
My build usually goes: Jotunn's Wrath > Blackthorn Hammer > Void Shield > Ancile > Mantle of Discord/ Titan's Bane/ Brawler's Beat Stick. I don't sell Acorn of Yggdrasil unless extremely necessary.

Thoughts?
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xmysterionz (58) | May 29, 2019 10:53am
Hello ma friend, welcome to my guide.

Why Acorn Blast instead Flurry? Well, 'cause it applies more damage. Flurry at level 1 provides 100 base damage with 100% scalling which means 10 extra physical power and acorn blast provides 120 base damage with 90% scalling meaning an extra 9 damage. And the cooldown difference is just 1 sec.

Building Transcendence in a jugler is keep your power late game. As you know rat tend to fall off a bit late game and if you build trans you avoid a good part of this fall. I don't build it for the mana, I build it for the power, same for blackthorn, when I combine both I want the CDR and HP from it, not mana or the MP5 passive.

Your build is pretty ok. The acorn still useful late game and you usually don't need to sell it if you don't want. I just really recommend sell it if you built Soul Eater, because there are no reason to keep it late game if you have SE, so change it for Masamune
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Vini_sds (10) | May 29, 2019 11:27am
xmysterionz wrote:
Why Acorn Blast instead Flurry? Well, 'cause it applies more damage. Flurry at level 1 provides 100 base damage with 100% scalling which means 10 extra physical power and acorn blast provides 120 base damage with 90% scalling meaning an extra 9 damage. And the cooldown difference is just 1 sec.


Doesn't the protection reduction from Flurry make you deal more damage overall?

xmysterionz wrote:
Building Transcendence in a jugler is keep your power late game. As you know rat tend to fall off a bit late game and if you build trans you avoid a good part of this fall. I don't build it for the mana, I build it for the power, same for blackthorn, when I combine both I want the CDR and HP from it, not mana the passive.


Fair point.
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boogiebass (44) | March 23, 2019 9:09pm
Myst, check out this rat game I played. Hope you're proud of me!
rat game
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xmysterionz (58) | March 23, 2019 9:16pm
That's ma boy, you are learning. I hope you have used a lot of laughts and taunts too XD
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boogiebass (44) | March 23, 2019 9:32pm
xD I take it you didn't actually look at the link?
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xCudz (1) | March 11, 2019 10:22am
I love how in depth this guide is. Really helped me a lot. Just one question. Why a trans on damage build? Why not rush into a jotunns, then hydras, crusher, bloodforged, and maybe then a spirit robe for late game, then possible titans after you sell acorn?

Just curious because thats how I've been doing the high damage if I'm just trashing people.
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xmysterionz (58) | March 11, 2019 11:18am
First of all, hello xCudz, I'm glad that it helped you.

Now to your question: Why rush trans on a full damage build? By saying this, I'm assuming you are talking about my jungle "full damage build example", correct me if I'm wrong.

Why trans first? Well, you are a Ratatoskr so you won't miss any damage early game by doing trans. When it is finished, you will have a lot of mana, keeping you more time in the jungle, farming, and letting you use and abuse of your skills, plus, trans gives A LOT OF POWER when fully stacked, so you will become literally a beast mid game. Then I go to Hydra's to enhance the burst power and jotuns to get full cooldown. As said in the notes of this build, the objective is just build a full power rat, if you wanna some bruiser rat (that I personally recommend), you can check the other builds, including the standard build.

Your suggestions are also fine, although I would get TB before spirit robe.
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xCudz (1) | March 11, 2019 11:33am
I prefer the bruiser void + ancile build that you have, unless my team is just trashing people. I was just curious. Thanks!
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boogiebass (44) | February 25, 2019 9:49am
The hell? Why did i not upvote this? Upvoted.
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xmysterionz (58) | February 25, 2019 9:53am
'cause I'm not important to you ;-;
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boogiebass (44) | February 25, 2019 10:01am
Yea sorry, you aren't Gulfwulf
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xmysterionz (58) | February 4, 2019 6:37am
Comments below here are from Season 5 and above from Season 6. Updated to S6 Patch 6.1.
(I know that there are items missing in itemization/builds and they will be updated asap)

Edit: Everything is ok now and the guide is fully updated :)
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GT JFuzzyTBMS (1) | November 25, 2018 10:01am
Im Fairly new to smite(only level 30) so can someone tell me why theirs no boots, thanks
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Gary169 (7) | November 25, 2018 11:18am
Because the god is Ratatoskr. He uses Acorn of Yggdrasil instead of boots. Sort of like his unique ability.
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xmysterionz (58) | November 26, 2018 8:52am
And I really hope Hi Rez bring back his other nuts acorns. Why every god can have 4 boots options and rat only one? that's not fair >:(
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GT JFuzzyTBMS (1) | November 25, 2018 6:09pm
Ok, thanks
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