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Giving the night an extra bite - Chernobog Joust Guide

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Smite God: Chernobog

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Pick a starter / dont forget your pots / Beads first Notes Either starter is good depends on the enemy team.(I prefer hunters personally) If they are a very aggressive type comp then get attackers if they have a mid late game comp hunters blessing. Never ever ever forget your pots for at least the first 5 minutes

Build Item Hunter's Blessing Hunter's Blessing
Build Item Attacker's Blessing Attacker's Blessing
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Purification Beads Purification Beads
Build Item Horrific Emblem Horrific Emblem
Build Item Aegis Amulet Aegis Amulet

Go to Build # 1 Notes I have had really good success with this build the life steal has saved me multiple times

Build Item Devourer's Gauntlet Devourer's Gauntlet
Build Item Ninja Tabi Ninja Tabi
Build Item The Executioner The Executioner
Build Item Silverbranch Bow Silverbranch Bow
Build Item Qin's Sais Qin's Sais
Build Item Bloodforge Bloodforge

Go to Build # 2 Notes Pick up Asi 3rd or 4th item if you need some life steal. Trade it out late game with Blood forge. I'll use this build if I know the enemy teams tank wont die very easy late game.

Build Item Transcendence Transcendence
Build Item Ninja Tabi Ninja Tabi
Build Item The Executioner The Executioner
Build Item Silverbranch Bow Silverbranch Bow
Build Item Qin's Sais Qin's Sais
Build Item Bloodforge Bloodforge

Anti - Heal # 1 Notes Anti heal for the annoying healers. Even the Ra and Anubis noobs.

Build Item Transcendence Transcendence
Build Item Ninja Tabi Ninja Tabi
Build Item The Executioner The Executioner
Build Item Brawler's Beat Stick Brawler's Beat Stick
Build Item Toxic Blade Toxic Blade
Build Item Qin's Sais Qin's Sais

Anti - Heal # 2 Notes I was not expecting this to hit so hard. Careful though, you have no sustain.

Build Item Transcendence Transcendence
Build Item Ninja Tabi Ninja Tabi
Build Item The Executioner The Executioner
Build Item Brawler's Beat Stick Brawler's Beat Stick
Build Item Silverbranch Bow Silverbranch Bow
Build Item Qin's Sais Qin's Sais

Crit for da squishy Notes I don't really like Crit but this is pretty good

Build Item Transcendence Transcendence
Build Item Ninja Tabi Ninja Tabi
Build Item Poisoned Star Poisoned Star
Build Item Silverbranch Bow Silverbranch Bow
Build Item Rage Rage
Build Item Deathbringer Deathbringer

Items to consider (no order) Notes All 5 are decent pick ups for certain situations. Jotunns/soul eater can replace beat stick if there is no healers. And Titans Bane can be added if the enemy team is hella tanky. If u want to use Odysseus' Bow instead of Silverbranch Bow or The Executioner, I recommend getting another pen item to offset this.

Build Item Jotunn's Wrath Jotunn's Wrath
Build Item Titan's Bane Titan's Bane
Build Item Soul Eater Soul Eater
Build Item The Crusher The Crusher

Chernobog's Skill Order

Crystallized Curses

Crystallized Curses

1 X
1 3 6 7 9
Vicious Barrage

Vicious Barrage

2 A
2 8 10 11 12
Into Darkness

Into Darkness

3 B
4 15 16 18 19
Living Nightmare

Living Nightmare

4 Y
5 13 14 17 20

Introduction

Welcome to my guide for Chernobog
Joust edition from a noob to a noob


My name is FallenRocket. This is my very first Guide so there will be some improvement needed. Im a causal/ranked Joust player who dabbles in conquest every now and then but Joust is my favorite mode.

So feel free to comment on things the more feedback the better.

Pros & Cons

Pros:

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Cons:
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Reason Behind The Items



Items

RELICS



Relics

What His Skills Are And How To Use Them





skills

JOUST - Basics with Chernobog





Basics

Conclusion

Chernobog is an amazing hunter for securing kills, blowing up tanks and just all around super fun to play. I hope you enjoyed my guide. I used a lot of items and ideas from Zilby to structure my guide.
Zilby Template guide <---click here for that guide.

If you are into ranked Joust message me on discord FallenRocket#6102


Thank you for reading!

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FallenRocket (1) | March 29, 2019 5:39pm
I don't even know where to really reply so new thread.

I don't mind all this commotion honestly. If it wasent for Kriega then I'm not sure this guide would have as many comments. I wouldn't have learned alot of people differing information or thought about different situational varbiles as in what to consider and what to exclude in certain builds.

So the most important part isn't that we agree on everything, it is just making sure we stay open minded.

Kriega, At first I found your comments...aggressive to say the least. But atleast you took the time to explain your motives in better detail. I do appreciate that. Now that I have got to know you a bit better I understand your not personally attacking anyone.You'er trying to explain why the builds are trash and not the author. Personally I want you commenting on my guides because I'll know when I screw up. You'll be here to point it all out. Plus again you start up conversation and others to input their ideas and I like that.

So every guide I do (which honestly will all probably be on hunters), I hope you all read and trash me to death till I get better.

Thank you to everyone input good bad or ugly.
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Lukatomic (2) | April 1, 2019 12:02pm
Hey man, you are a great builder, kreiga kind of ruins alot of peoples builds, we are the only people so far to make a 6.2 chernobog builds on this website so both of us need to change the builds as more updates are ahead.

So don't listen to kreiga and listen to yourself, make the choice to listen to a suggestion or just tell that person that "It is a good idea, but I'm keeping this".
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Kriega1 (82) | April 1, 2019 12:13pm
Dear god, you don't stop do you?

Lukatomic wrote:
we are the only people so far to make a 6.2 chernobog builds


Just because you claim the build is "up to date" doesen't mean it's good.

Lukatomic wrote:
make the choice to listen to a suggestion or just tell that person that "It is a good idea, but I'm keeping this".


Also known as ignoring valid criticism. I think everyone here can learn from your mistakes.
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Branmuffin17 (285) | March 29, 2019 5:42pm
This is about as positive of a mindset that could ever be. Props to you dude.
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boogiebass (37) | March 29, 2019 7:53pm
Where are my props? >:(
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FallenRocket (1) | March 26, 2019 9:37pm
I did not have much time today to fully test everything I wanted too. I will get around to testing and tweaking more when I can. I have changed some things. (Sorry kriega I did not remove horrofic :D) Taking everything that was mentioned into account I Removed a build or two, adjusted every build that is current, added to the Devos vs trans section and fixed alot of spelling errors I'm not willing to admit. I appreciate everyones' feed back!

Dose eerything look better, built better and work better?
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Kriega1 (82) | March 28, 2019 12:58am
For the crit build the order should be Rage > Deathbringer > Poisoned Star.
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boogiebass (37) | March 28, 2019 1:05am
You probably already mentioned this, but that crit build no lifesteal. I'd rather get devs than trans and executioner than silver branch... but that's my personal pref
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Lukatomic (2) | March 28, 2019 12:09am
I dont particularly suggest silverbranch bow but do what you want to.
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boogiebass (37) | March 25, 2019 11:37pm
@kriega
@bran

Starting a new thread here since you two seem to have massive disagreements about this guide. Kriega, what exactly do yiu disgaree with? Write it out point by point and give bran a chance to refute or agree.
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Kriega1 (82) | March 26, 2019 5:06am
What massive disagreements?

Only one that i've seemed to notice:

"I might even get Silver after Tabi, then rush Qin's Sais or crits...or bypass Silver if going crits and rush Rage. Lots of options there."

Silverbranch after Tabi? since when was this a thing? Or since when was building Silverbranch with crit a thing?

Rushing rage after boots, not sure about that one. Also if you're rushing crit, it means you don't have your lifesteal online ready soon, and you don't want to be counter built that early now, do you? Or have only your Tabi and Rage if you're behind?
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Branmuffin17 (285) | March 26, 2019 1:08am
@kriega: what say I duck behind boogie and you push?
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Kriega1 (82) | March 25, 2019 7:32pm
Some of these builds need serious work. Also, you should never, ever get Horrific Emblem on Chernobog.

Your lone crit build has no lifesteal which is a problem in itself. Don't think I need to explain why as it should be plainly obvious?

Also Anti-heal build 1 surely looks like it's losing out on dps compared to other builds. Im not quite sure you need both Brawler's Beat Stick and Toxic Blade.

"Im a causal/ranked Joust player" - Gold this season and Silver last season? Is this with a full pre-made team? Explains the builds.
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FallenRocket (1) | March 25, 2019 10:59pm
Let's start at the top.

If you read anything in my guide you would see why Horrific Emblem is in the build. It's my preference but I do recommend another relic. I'll let you read for it.

I might actually remove the crit build for one reason, I don't build crit really at all and I made this guide based on my knowldge and in game experience. Not fair to the reader for my lack of knowledge.

Brawler's Beat Stick and Toxic Blade combined together on Chernobog works awesome against a multi healer/ablity heal comp. You cant land your 1 on everyone. I dont think you have tried this build on him perosnly. Hard to believe but not every copy paste build works for every God. Plus this is a guide for people unfamiliar with Chernobog in the realm of joust and him to a point. This isnt counter building and advance teachings. Plus there is a build with out toxic blade not sure if you read my guide yet.

I am a causal/ranked Joust player, About the only thing you read I think. I usally run solo queue so pre-made team I think not. When I'm playing with buddies they play what they like all I do is use what ever CC they have to my advantage. But you are right Gold is my highest rank.I have potential for higher rank but I dont care to sweat that hard atm. Hence the casual.

I do respect your opinions don't get me wrong. But actual thought out cristim like Bran has shown rather than slandering peoples builds with barely any context is a bit better learning experience for the newer/unfimlar players to smite.
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Kriega1 (82) | March 26, 2019 4:39am
You don't need to remove the crit build, just include Devourer's Gauntlet with it, so you don't end up eating your own crit autos through Hide of the Nemean Lion and Shield of Thorns.
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Branmuffin17 (285) | March 25, 2019 4:40pm
Hi Fallen,

Some feedback (in addition to my one below about not really liking PS):
  • For your writeup about choosing Devo's vs. Trans, I think part of that consideration should also depend on team healing. If you've got a Hel or Ra or something on your team, then you might need the lifesteal less, allowing you to choose the Trans route, and also possibly skipping Asi.

  • Toxic Blade is an interesting item, and usually considered pretty weak, but I'm glad that when I see it being used in an example build, it's always with Qin's Sais and not with crits.

  • I like your ability writeups. Shows you're very familiar/comfortable with the god.

  • Solid tips. Very nice.

  • Bunch of grammatical/spelling errors so you might do a read-through sometime and fix the various things.
+1
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FallenRocket (1) | March 25, 2019 11:14pm
Thank you for the Devos vs trans comment. I actually didn't think about this variable when selecting based on my own teams healing abilities. I'll be sure to update that shortly.


I figured most would see Toxic Blade and cringe. The fact you see it a bit different then the norm surprised me.I do only find this item useful in rare occasions but people kinda over look its usefullness on certain gods.

The next two points I appreciate the complements!

Now, I'm bad at this grammar stuff but I went through and fixed alloooot of word issues.

Thank you,
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Kriega1 (82) | March 26, 2019 4:42am
Toxic Blade is a bit more on the lacklustre side but I wouldn't consider it useless, I definitely would not pair it with crit, and I also find it questionable to include in combination with Brawler's Beat Stick. That does bring the question, which benefits him more, Brawler's Beat Stick or Toxic Blade? Considering that Crystallized Curses is an 80% power scaling ability that detonates twice.
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Kriega1 (82) | March 25, 2019 7:33pm
Branmuffin17 wrote:

+1


Did we see the same builds?
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Tlaloc1050 (17) | March 26, 2019 5:03am
WOw you used actual quotes for ones
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Branmuffin17 (285) | March 26, 2019 12:45am
A good amount of the +1 was based on the writeup, and the tips and ability explanations that I think are pretty darn good overall.

I don't fully agree with the builds in all cases. I should probably go into those a bit, for Fallen and others.
  • Build 1, I honestly don't like double-lifesteal that much. I think it can work, especially for the health shield from BF, and the power is nice, so it's okay, but think other items might work better. Brawler's would be one option.

    Silverbranch Bow has seen a lot of use lately, and there's substantial reason to use it, but based on cost, I might consider it before Exe, especially if I'm the only physical god, as Exe's protection reduction will only be effective for my own damage.

    I might even get Silver after Tabi, then rush Qin's Sais or crits...or bypass Silver if going crits and rush Rage. Lots of options there.

  • For build 2, again it's a question of Silver before Exe, and BF doubling up on lifesteal not being my preference.

  • For Anti-Heal 1, I'd probably get Qin's, then Toxic if going full-on anti-heal.

  • For Anti-Heal 1 and 2, if I'm being relied on by my team to be the anti-heal builder (mage for example isn't going to build Divine Ruin), I might just get it after Tabi if really needed to counter multiple healers.

  • Crit for da squishy should be taken more seriously in Joust, IMO. Specifically because often, Joust comps will have 2 squishy gods and 1 tank, and Qin's isn't always going to be as good in those situations, IMO.

    PS again isn't probably going to be that great, at least mid-game, and shouldn't be prioritized before Rage. And then Deathbringer should be the 2nd crit item. Devo's should be considered here as well. Trans, Ninja, Rage, Exe, DB, situational, or Devo's, Ninja, Rage, Exe, DB, situational.
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Lukatomic (2) | March 25, 2019 9:55am
You should add worrior tabi as an optional so that he can have more power, I would also look at my chernobog build to have crit options as well.
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Kriega1 (82) | March 25, 2019 7:35pm
Lukatomic wrote:
I would also look at my chernobog build to have crit options as well.


Self-advertising hmm?

Also, YOUR crit builds is some of the last builds I would ever suggest to someone.
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Lukatomic (2) | March 25, 2019 9:27pm
Did you even try my build? Hmmmmmmmm???
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Lukatomic (2) | March 25, 2019 9:23pm
):
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Lukatomic (2) | March 25, 2019 9:57am
Also poison star is not as good as wind demon, I would suggest switching that as well.
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Kriega1 (82) | March 25, 2019 7:33pm
Lukatomic wrote:
Also poison star is not as good as wind demon, I would suggest switching that as well.


Oh really? Since when?
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Branmuffin17 (285) | March 25, 2019 4:01pm
Agreed on Poisoned Star not being that good for Joust/Arena. Chern is looking to drop his kit and unleash follow-up basics most often, not box back and forth, especially as he doesn't have any health sustain in that "Crit for da squishy" build example.

Instead, I feel you're best rushing Rage, which I honestly feel is a very solid item for him when going crit.
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xmysterionz (44) | March 25, 2019 7:06am
FallenRocket wrote:

Joust edition from a noob to a noob


LOL, I would give you an +1 just for this (god I laughed a lot).

I'm just not sure about Silverbranch Bow, if this item worth so much to put him in almost any build. Besides it, the rest seems good to me.
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FallenRocket (1) | March 25, 2019 11:33pm
I'm so glad someone found that funny! You are my first ever comment btw. You're freaken awesome!!

I know Silverbranch is in all builds but one. I cant seem to replace it just yet. I do really well with this item every game. It's hard to dismiss it.
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xmysterionz (44) | March 26, 2019 5:48am
Keep doing your good job man.

Take all constructive critics we have here and ignore the negative ones.
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Kriega1 (82) | March 25, 2019 7:34pm
If the rest of it seems good to you then I guess we are doomed.
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boogiebass (37) | March 25, 2019 7:45pm
Hey buddy. Can we tone it down a bit? I agree with what you're saying (builds need work), but you're being scummy about it to Bran, Myst, and others. Both are knowledgeable and would be more than happy to agree with you if you actually tried to make a point.

Let's not make more work for Bran right now. Thanks.
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