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Bacchus - An Alcoholic's Chugging Guide (S5, All Modes, Patch 5.20)

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Smite God: Bacchus

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The Keg Stand (Conquest / Standard Support Build)
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Purchase Order

Example Standard Build Notes Standard build progression against 3 physical / 2 magical, with the ADC being physical.

Incorporates a lot of damage mitigation ( Spirit Robe's and Oni Hunter's Garb's passives) which stacks well with Chug.

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Oni Hunter's Garb Oni Hunter's Garb
Build Item Midgardian Mail Midgardian Mail

Suggested Starting Items (Can rush Shoes with Guardian's + Shoes + Potions)

Build Item Guardian's Blessing Guardian's Blessing
Build Item Chalice of Healing Chalice of Healing
Build Item Multi Potion Multi Potion
Build Item Multi Potion Multi Potion
Build Item Multi Potion Multi Potion

Item #1 (Choose One)

Build Item Traveler's Shoes Traveler's Shoes
Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Reinforced Shoes Reinforced Shoes
Build Item Shoes of the Magi Shoes of the Magi

Early Protection Aura Items Notes Against a standard 3 physical / 2 magical enemy comp, Sovereignty is the safest choice. It provides good health sustain and good physical protection without the need for stacking.

If you're playing a more passive game and are biding your time, Gauntlet of Thebes is an acceptable first protection item, and can allow you to move into specific utility items earlier in your build.

Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Heartward Amulet Heartward Amulet

CDR + Protections

Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor
Build Item Genji's Guard Genji's Guard
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Shogun's Kusari Shogun's Kusari

Counter Items

Build Item Hide of the Nemean Lion Hide of the Nemean Lion
Build Item Midgardian Mail Midgardian Mail
Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Spectral Armor Spectral Armor
Build Item Witchblade Witchblade

Utility Items

Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Spear of the Magus Spear of the Magus
Build Item Gem of Isolation Gem of Isolation
Build Item Pythagorem's Piece Pythagorem's Piece
Build Item Relic Dagger Relic Dagger
Build Item Stone of Binding Stone of Binding
Build Item Oni Hunter's Garb Oni Hunter's Garb

Relics to Consider

Build Item Heavenly Wings Heavenly Wings
Build Item Horrific Emblem Horrific Emblem
Build Item Magic Shell Magic Shell
Build Item Belt of Frenzy Belt of Frenzy
Build Item Shield of Thorns Shield of Thorns

Example CDR / Utility Build (replace Shoes late) Notes In this build, bide your time early to build stacks of Gauntlet of Thebes. Sovereignty is a solid item but can easily be subbed out.

To take advantage of relic use from Relic Dagger, make sure to get good team-based relics such as Belt of Frenzy.

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Witchblade Witchblade
Build Item Relic Dagger Relic Dagger

Example Early Aggression Build (Replace Binding Late) Notes This is a build meant for early aggression. Best paired with a strong early-game ADC. You may consider picking up extra Mana Potions to supplement your lack of early mana.

Stone of Binding is cheap, provides some balanced protections, and the passive can be applied easily via Belly Flop. You'll replace it late-game.

With that somewhat low base of balanced protections, I do suggest something a bit more tanky next. Gauntlet of Thebes may seem counter-intuitive to an aggressive build, but it's less risky for stacking since you do get a decent protection base from Binding.

The last 3 items are situational. I do recommend getting your CDR up for more ability use, and Breastplate of Valor is great for that purpose.

For universal function, Pythagorem's Piece and Gem of Isolation both provide added health (you are still a Support), while provide great offensive stats in power/lifesteal aura and easily applied slows.

Build Item Shoes of the Magi Shoes of the Magi
Build Item Stone of Binding Stone of Binding
Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor
Build Item Pythagorem's Piece Pythagorem's Piece
Build Item Gem of Isolation Gem of Isolation

Bacchus's Skill Order

Chug

Chug

1 X
3 15 16 18 19
Belly Flop

Belly Flop

2 A
1 4 6 7 10
Belch of the Gods

Belch of the Gods

3 B
2 8 11 12 14
Intoxicate

Intoxicate

4 Y
5 9 13 17 20

Introduction (~A Taster~)

Recent updates:

2018/11/1: Guide is current as of Patch 5.20, "A Necessary Darkness." Builds slightly adjusted. No big item changes in the past few patches.

Revision History





Hello everyone! My name is Branmuffin17 (PC IGN: Muffinman17, PS4 IGN: Branmuffin17), and I'm a SMITEFire moderator and casual SMITE player on PC and PS4. Welcome to my sixth venture outside of my original project, The Overarching Assault Guide.

Bacchus and I share a common love...alcohol. That's why I've paired up with him to create this, my first Guardian guide. Well, that, and my last guide, Medusa - Stoning the Field, is infused with, um...references, and I guess alcohol is just natural progression. So...cheers.

I'll assume you know the basic gist of gameplay in the various modes, so I won't be teaching or talking much about rotating, minions, tickets, proof, IBU, etc., except in the direct context of Bacchus' gameplay. If you want details on general info, I invite you to check out my other guides:


The
Overarching
Conquest Guide
The
Overarching
Arena Guide

This is a work in progress, as it should be. I'm always open to new ideas and different approaches.


This picture is WAAAAY better than one of Bacchus, amirite?


Bacchus is a drunkard guardian. Although he shares some traits with other Guardians (namely being inherently tanky with good CC abilities), he has greater damage potential than most, which makes him extremely entertaining to play, as well as annoying to play against.


.... Strengths ....

+ Inherently tanky
+ Great AOE CC abilities
+ Good escape
+ Good damage potential
. Weaknesses .

- Drinks mana like alcohol
- Watered down wave clear
- Initiation is also escape
- is easily interrupted


As a Guardian, you'll usually find yourself building tanky to support your teammates. However, depending on game mode, you may find yourself able to build with a greater focus on damage. No worries; I'm providing you with multiple build types. Let's get our drink on! I mean...would you like a cheese tray with that?

Abilities (~I Can Drink Wine Through My Nose~)



Passive:



Drunk-O-Meter
As Bacchus Chugs, he gains buffs. Tipsy: Take 7% less damage and gain 10 magical power. Smashed: Take 14% less damage and gain 30 magical power.

Always Chug to keep your meter in the "Smashed" zone, at least before using any of your other abilities. It's a delicate balance, much like fine wine, but you want to be aware of your mana consumption and timing for the additional 6 second protections you gain from Chug.
Skill #1:



Chug
Bacchus drinks from his jug, giving him additional buffs. Also, he celebrates when he kills an enemy god, giving him 10% on his meter. 15/20/25/30/35 protections, 40/45/50/55/60 mana. CD 10 seconds.

Max this last.

The additional protections this provides are helpful, and at max rank fairly significant. Always make sure your breathalyzer Drunk-O-Meter is telling you you're "Smashed" to be assured of the added benefits from all of your other abilities. Drink right before or right after initiating with enemies to utilize the additional protections.

Don't forget to use it every time you're in base for a free refill.

Drinking On The Job
Skill #2:



Belly Flop
Bacchus jumps into the air and slams to the ground, knocking all enemies into the air and dealing damage. If "Tipsy," all enemies are also slowed (20% for 2 seconds) after they land. CD 16 seconds. 70% scaling.

Max this first.

Fairly quick jump speed and moderate AOE radius with a nice knockup effect. Max this first, due to the easy confirmation of full burst damage.

If you can safely be the aggressor, use this to initiate a fight, and follow with Belch, ult, etc. However, if you're not sure of the situation, or there are enemy minions present, save it as an escape or for mid-fight disruption.

Doing This In Real Life Hurts
Skill #3:



Belch of the Gods
Bacchus lets out an obnoxiously loud belch, doing damage every 0.5 seconds for 2 seconds (4 ticks). If "Tipsy," enemies are stunned for 1 second ON THE FINAL TICK and their healing is debuffed (50%). Bacchus is immune to knockups (but pretty much not anything else, dammit) while channeling this ability. CD 14 seconds. 60% scaling (15% per tick).

Max this second.

This is Bacchus' trademark bodily function. Huge audible and visible notification, and probably smells like a mix of chicken and vinegar. Generously-sized cone AOE to possibly hit multiple enemies. If the enemies don't have hard CC in their kit, or you're looking just to help damage minions, initiate with this ability for some damage and a possible stun. Remember that only the final tick stuns, so you can choose a specific end target as you're channeling the ability. Just watch out, because this move is easily interrupted by freezes, stuns, etc.

Whenever possible, target healers for the end stun. If you're tipsy (you should always be), the 3 second healing debuff will seriously hinder their sustain.

If you pick up Spear of the Magus as your penetration item, initiating with this will help max your stacks before you follow up with Belly Flop or Intoxicate for increased damage.

A Belch For The Ages
Ultimate:



Intoxicate
Bacchus smashes his jug on the ground, intoxicating all nearby enemies (6 seconds) and doing damage. If he is "Smashed," he gains a magical power buff (20-60 power). CD 90 seconds. 70% scaling.

Level this when available.

Pretty good damage in a fairly large radius, and the "intoxication" debuff, which makes enemy gods stagger slowly, lasts a long time. Great to use in a large teamfight to make it harder for enemies to hit their skill shots or escape.

Share Your Drink

Ability Combos (~Perfect Pairings~)



Making an entrance to a scene requires knowledge and awareness of the situation and the disposition of the audience. Here are some tips to make sure you're the life of the party (and don't end up dead in a ditch).


Simple Tastes



Without going into crazy detail, the two key abilities are his Belly Flop and Belch of the Gods. Chug can be used either before or after the combo as needed for damage mitigation.
  • Use Belly Flop first for a strong, surprising and quick initiation and knockup, followed immediately by Belch of the Gods. This is a good 1-2 if you are setting up enemies for your teammates, as the knockup will give your team extra time to get in range.

  • Use Belch of the Gods first, and once the last tick stuns the enemy, you can easily confirm contact with Belly Flop. This is best used if you know you're not going to get interrupted with hard CC (e.g. stunned / frozen / knocked up). The last tick of Belch is key, as it's the only tick that stuns.

A Round, On Me!

(Cautious of CC) Ensure protections before initiation
Initiation/gap closer + CC/slow
AOE damage + CC/intoxicate
(Elongated Fight) Add protections to stay in the fight
AOE damage + CC/stun

This is an "all-in" combo, as you'll be using your only escape option ( Belly Flop) as the initiator. Chug right before initiating if you anticipate some major CC after going in (or need to use it to get back to "Smashed" status). Chug after your ult if you think you'll get hits in before getting damaged.

Timed well, this will allow you to hit multiple enemies with multiple abilities, and create havoc right at the start of a teamfight. Make sure your teammates are all there to support you, as you can be burst down quickly if focused.


Duck Out Before The Cops Get There

(Cautious of CC) Ensure protections before initiation
AOE damage + CC/stun
AOE damage + CC/intoxicate
(Elongated Fight) Add protections to stay in the fight
Escape or finisher CC/slow

This is the safer option, as it saves Belly Flop as either a finisher or escape. Can be more difficult to hit multiple enemies, as they'll probably watch your beerwine belly swagger in. Can be effective when targeting a specific enemy, or if your enemies are already distracted by your teammates.

Conquest / Standard Support (Build & Gameplay)



The Keg Stand (with options)


The Keg Stand (Details & Discussion)




Relics





Starting Process & Early Game


Mid to Late Game


Warding Locations

Non-Conquest Tanky Bruiser (Builds & Gameplay)




Core Items




Counter Items




Offensive Utility Items




Relics




The Dump Bucket: Dunk Squad Damage Build Example & Discussion




Early Game


Mid-Game


Late-Game

Gameplay Videos



Double B Tag Team (Arena, S3)


Securing The Kill (Clash, S3)


Dunk Squad (Siege, S3)


Don't Fool Around! (Conquest, S3)

Lore & References



Nevercake's SMITE Lore Ep. 15: Who is Bacchus?


Smite Builder: If you haven't seen or used it before, check out this site by EliteOwnage. Similar in purpose to KrettCalc, but with an easy-to-use interface, you can theory-build to your heart's content, and set up head-to-heads to see how your build will fare against different enemies and builds.

Wine References (~Thank Me Later~)



Firstly, if you've never seen it before, check out the movie Sideways. Entertaining, witty, funny. Filmed in and around California's Santa Ynez valley (a bit north of Santa Barbara), which is chock full of great wineries/vineyards.

Some places where they filmed: Kalyra Winery, Los Olivos Cafe, Foxen Winery, The Hitching Post II.


If you love wine and find yourself in south/central California, I highly suggest visiting some of these wineries, for great ambiance and delicious alcoholic beverages.
  • Gainey Vineyard: My wife's and my favorite. We've been wine members for years. Sprawling location, and they have a beautiful member's lounge (set up a time in advance) where you can kick back on a couch or at the bar and converse with the sommelier, order a cheese platter, etc. They also host a yearly wine crush all-day party with live music, where they serve food, pour endless wine (their limited selections), allow you to walk through the vineyards, taste grapes, squeeze juice, stomp, etc. Highly suggest their Limited Selection Syrah and Pinot Noir.

  • Evan's Ranch: Sister winery to Gainey. They actually pour some in the member's lounge, but also have their own tasting room in nearby Los Olivos. Much more limited in harvest and variety, they have 2 types each of 3 different varietals: C******nay, Syrah, and Pinot Noir. All 6 are amazing.

  • Coquelicot (ko-klee-ko): The name is actually the coolest part, but their wines are quite tasty too. No official vineyard to visit, but their tasting room is practially next door to the Evan's Ranch tasting room. Cool peeps generally work there, too.

  • Demetria Estate: By appointment only. BEAUTIFUL location, sit outside under trees while the sommelier walks around with different wines. The last time we went here, my wife cried because she was pregnant and wanted to drink from here so badly. We wouldn't have even gone, but we had set the trip up well in advance...designated driver, says me!!! LOL

  • Sunstone: They usually have some cool stuff going. Beautiful grounds, and beautiful tasting room areas inside the building. My wife still remembers the sweet, late-harvest Sauvignon Blanc they served us 7+ years ago.

  • Roblar Winery: BEAUTIFUL building...but perhaps a bit too designed to be that way, if that makes sense. Nevertheless, they have some delicious wines (Syrahhhhhh), and if you're a member, they have a cool upstairs tasting room.

A couple random things:
  • Looking for a place to stay during your wine trip? Try The Ballard Inn.
  • Drinking at home and don't want to wait an hour or more decanting? Use a Vinturi or other similar aerator. Don't know if they work? Do a side-by-side comparison yourself.
  • Don't forget to go through Solvang, the Danish Capitol of California. Beautiful city with a lot of quaint shops. I actually sat down at a piano and played some of The Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness in one of the shops. Fun!

Hope some of you get to visit! Let me know if you do!!!

Beer References (~You're Welcome~)





Ever since I switched over from roller to ice hockey, I've gotten into beer (common after-game refreshment). I hadn't ever really had them before (yeah, I know...but I purposefully avoided them), moved quickly through standard beers (Coors Light was the standard after-game choice for the team)...landed solidly on Newcastle, Blue Moon w/ oranges, Corona Extra w/ limes, Stella Artois, and the occassional Guinness. Only took me around 6 months to move over to real beer...IPA is where it's at! Mostly standard IPA, though I like some double IPAs, stouts, and others also.

If you're of legal drinking age, and are in the US, you might be able to find some of the following recommendations, though most are probably easier to find in Southern California, since many are local here.

  • Karl Strauss: Mosaic Session IPA - Delicious...bold citrus flavor, easy on the palette, and on the low end of ABV (5.5%), means you can have a couple back-to-back and not fall asleep (like I do when I've had too much alcohol). This is my current go-to.

  • Russian River Brewing Company: Pliny the Elder - Only had this once...it can be a bit on the difficult side to find this, but oh, it's worth it. Bursting with herbal flavors, and one of the highest rated craft beers anywhere.

  • Ballast Point: Sculpin, Pineapple Sculpin, Grapefruit Sculpin, Unfiltered Sculpin, Aloha Sculpin, Dorado, Watermelon Dorado - These are all delicious. Can't go wrong.

  • Firestone Walker: I dunno...pretty much EVERYTHING? They have standards (Lion & Bear) like Pale 31, Union Jack, Easy Jack, Luponic Distortion...but oh, their Vintage series...Sucaba, Helldorado, Parabola, Stickee Monkee...delicious (and powerful).

  • Noble Ale Works: Tongue Tickles DIPA - OOF...one of my favorites. So, so good.

  • Beachwood Brewing: - If you can ever find it...Amalgamator. Anything else they make is also great, but this...this takes the cake.

The list goes on, of course, but these represent a good place to start.

Coffee References (~Sober Up~)





Alright, so you don't really "sober up" by drinking coffee. Doesn't mean it's not nice to drink after you've had too much! (or haven't had any and you're starting your day)

The above is my current setup.

  • Espresso Machine: La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi II - Prosumer grade dual boiler system...extremely solid machine, powerful steam wand, etc. Highly recommended. If I was rich? Oh...no question...it would be THIS.

  • Grinder: Baratza Vario - Versatile grinder, can handle anything from extremely coarse (e.g. French Press) to extremely fine (espresso). Am actually looking to upgrade this eventually. This is what I have in mind...

  • Beans: Klatch Coffee - Belle Espresso - After trying a variety, I've stuck mostly with this. The Belle is a beautiful bean...medium-dark, the way my tongue prefers. Extremely consistent, and I get the beans 1-2 days after roast...freshness is absolutely key, and I use the beans around 3-17 days after roast. Great as a standalone shot, and mixes beautifully with milk. Whole only, please.

  • Knock Box: Dreamfarm Grindenstein - Basic, does what it's supposed to. There are some fancier ones out there though...

  • Cups: Intelligentsia Black Cat Project, by NotNeutral - NotNeutral makes some beautiful cups, and these fit perfectly on the top of my machine...2x Large Latte, 2x Cappuccino, 2x Demit***e (espresso), plus 1 Rattleware 3oz Shot Glass Pitcher for when I'm measuring my shots.

  • Tamper: Espro Calibrated Tamper - Takes the variability out of one of the steps in making a great espresso shot! Highly recommended.

  • Coffee Storage: Coffeevac - Does what it's supposed to...seems to keep the beans fresh.

  • Weigh Scale: American Weigh Scales Black Blade - Does what it's supposed to...buy a 500 gram calibration weight as well.

  • Lighting: IKEA Dioder Multicolor - Custom-installed these, ran the cabling through the machine and out the bottom. Gives it a great look.

  • Syrups: Monin brand - For when you or your guests want a flavored latte. Their syrups seem to be higher quality, and better tasting, than other popular brands like Torani. My personal favorite is their French Vanilla, though their Gingerbread and Pumpkin Pie are also good.

I did a lot of research before I bought this, and there was a lot of trial and error in learning how to make a "good" espresso shot. It's not nearly as simple as you might think.

If you find you have some interest, and want to chat, let me know! I can offer suggestions based on different budgets, and possibly help you work through issues you might be experiencing.

Oh, and here's a great book if you're super into coffee: The World Atlas of Coffee

Some Of My Guides



If you liked this guide, check out my other ones below!


The Overarching Series


The
Overarching
Arena Guide

The
Overarching
Assault Guide

The
Overarching
Conquest Guide



Individual God Guides



Bacchus:
An Alcoholic's Chugging Guide

Freya:
Aurora
Gory-Alis

Ganesha:
Selflessly
Gifting Kills

Shifu Guan Yu:
The Battle
Master

Loki: The Backstabbing Bastard

Medusa: Getting Everyone Stoned

Con(~hic!~)clusion



So thatsh it! If you, erm, like what I've done (hic!) and how I try to make it bettererrr, anyone can suggest a god for me to get drunk with work on next ...and of coursh, I have to own him and/or wanna play him =P but I'll letcha know...

Thanks for reading, and I appreciate any and all comments, suggestions, etc. Feel free to add me/invite me if you want to play! Also, I'm up for virtually drinking with you while we play...if you don't expect much from me, I won't expect much from you...Cheers!


Brandon / PC IGN: Muffinman17 / PS4 IGN: Branmuffin17

Credits



Thanks to the following people:

For general Arena knowledge and in-depth help with builds / calculations

For general knowledge

For aesthetic ideas and templates to make the guide prettier (just like Bacchus)

For experienced build help and discussion

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DV-8 (20) | July 13, 2018 9:56pm
Hey, man. Was thinking about this the other day in our all guardian joust, lol.

I was thinking Divine Ruin could be a solid option for him, especially against healing comps (obviously). Thought it could get good use in a bruiser support build or something.

Considering something along the lines of:

Shoes of the Magi, Sovereignty, Void Stone, Spirit Robe, Divine Ruin, Situational.
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Gulfwulf (28) | July 14, 2018 12:13am
Bacchus already has anti-heal with Belch of the Gods, DV-8. I'd pick Pestilence instead.
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DV-8 (20) | July 14, 2018 12:15pm
Divine would be more for damage potential, really. You can pretty much one shot carries and other squishies.

Belch is a situational anti-heal device, dependent on cooldown and only lasting 4 seconds. Divine lasts 8 seconds and can be applied more often.

Not to necessarily say that Divine is better in all situations, I just thought Bran should consider it as an option at the very least.
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BestMinionEver (69) | June 30, 2017 4:40am
Hey Bran I'm just browsing for inspiration to figure out how i want my layout to be on my guides. And this guide is so smooth, so I will probably do something along these lines my self.

But I have one question when it comes to the combo section. I could not find my favorite combo in your guide. Chug-belch-flop to secure the knockup 100%. Also knockup does not get deminishing returns. Not sure if intoxicate does?!?!

That was all. Nice guide and I'll make sure to read it properly some day :)
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Branmuffin17 (234) | June 30, 2017 10:11am
Yo Marki,

I guess you have to read the entire combo section in order to pull out your favorite combo. Specifically, it's the last combo topic, "with intoxicate down." I say that all the previous combos work just getting rid of intoxicate, and I say you can use Chug before initiating.

Technically, then, it would be the "Duck Out" combo, using the first option of Chug, moving into Belch of the Gods, (not using Intoxicate, skipping option #2 of Chug cuz you already chose option #1, then moving into Belly Flop. And when I have to explain it that way, then yes, thank you very much, I need to add it as a first combo because that's way too convoluted. Thanks for pointing that out, LOL.

And thanks for the compliments. It's taken a long time to get my guide format to this point.
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Mattdew | February 19, 2017 4:32am
tbh, this works surprisingly well
better than my full damage bacchus build
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Branmuffin17 (234) | February 19, 2017 10:04am
Awesome, glad you had success with it! He has plenty of damage in his kit without going full glass cannon, and the added protections and other things will keep you alive while your teammates finish them off =)
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Time2medicate (4) | February 14, 2017 6:23pm
Which build is the one used when we played when you did all that damage?
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Branmuffin17 (234) | February 14, 2017 7:50pm
Let's see, here's the PS4 Joust match you're talking about. It was with you ( He Bo) and newbie ( Awilix), vs. Jing Wei, Terra, and Kukulkan.

My build was based on Build #3 in the guide: Shoes of Focus, Void Stone, Dynasty Plate Helm, Gem of Isolation, Mantle of Discord, Spear of Desolation, and I replaced Helm with Midgardian Mail. I chose Void before Dynasty because we were facing 2 magical gods, so I wanted magical D first. I chose [[Gem of Isolation 4th this time just because...mostly, I wanted a bit of health, since I didn't have any items with health up to that point. I chose Mantle of Discord next because I wanted the CDR. I don't know why I chose Desolation...probably was thinking of PC/S4 Deso...but in all honesty, I probably should have chosen Spear of the Magus in any case. It would have cut into invincible Terra's protections some...and helped your damage more.

I replaced Dynasty with Midgardian, specifically for extra health and to cut into Jing's DPS a bit...but didn't stop them in the end.

I ended up at 6/4/7, with the highest damage of the match @ 38,582 (next closest was enemy Jing @ 28,780). I also took and absorbed the most damage...29,405 taken, plus 45,752 mitigated (about 75k total). Enemy Terra was second with 37,767 taken and 33,676 mitigated (around 70k total).

Here's another PS4 match... This one was a lower-level match. It was Ronin ( Cupid w/ me, plus a random playing Aphrodite. We were against Chaac, Neith, and Scylla (all on one team).

In this one, I got Shoes of Focus, Dynasty Plate Helm, Void Stone, Spear of the Magus, Gem of Isolation, Mantle of Discord, and replaced Dynasty with Breastplate of Valor for the added CDR (yes, I went 5% over max CDR...unusual for me but felt the protection and mana was worth it, and didn't need to counter attack speed quite as much.

Highest damage on my team at 33,587, with a huge amount of damage taken (39,952) and mitigated (63,041). Went 13/1/7...basically ran over the other team, lol.

On PC, I recently played the general build in a siege match with Jaberg, TheMrRay06, and GGF. I went Watcher's Gift (amazing sustain for S4 even in Siege), Shoes of Focus, Dynasty Plate Helm, Void Stone, Spear of the Magus, Gem of Isolation, Spirit Robe, and replaced Dynasty with Breastplate of Valor.

Went 7/5/15 in a losing effort, with 2nd highest damage on my team, and only outdamaged by Freya on the enemy team. Yes, I outdamaged GGF's Apollo. I'm sure that wasn't one of his proudest moments...but my Bacchus has "outplayed" him in other situations before, so I'm sure he's not shocked.

Anyway, took 27,610 damage, mitigated 34,509. The better choice probably would have been for me to go full tank or at least work to counter Freya a bit more, but I absolutely destroyed her and Ullr a few times...Ullr tried to 1v1 me from full health at one point later in the match and it didn't end well for him XD. Then again, not surprised, based on his build (looking at it hurts soooooo bad)... Jotunn's Wrath, Warrior Tabi, Odysseus' Bow, Asi, Hastened Fatalis (?!?), Titan's Bane.

So overall, I'd say it's a solid build. Usually guaranteed to do some solid damage...and in this build, you sort of need to feel your way...you don't have to follow the specific order, and just get what you feel is best at the time.
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Time2medicate (4) | February 15, 2017 12:19am
Thanks now I have to read your long explanation for a simple question lol
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newbiemj (12) | February 14, 2017 7:35pm
Dunk squad build 3 I believe
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SeniorPurpur | February 10, 2017 7:04am
This Really helps me :) i like it
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Branmuffin17 (234) | February 10, 2017 10:40am
Thanks Purpur, glad it's helpful!
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ShatteredStorm | February 9, 2017 10:04pm
Very helpful guide; gained a lot of insight, despite I don't play Bacchus.

I'm sad you have nothing about tea though :(
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Branmuffin17 (234) | February 9, 2017 11:37pm
You SHOULD play Bacchus...I originally didn't like him at all...but it's all different now.

Sorry...I don't drink tea. =( I mean, the occasional green tea (and sake) with sushi is badass, but otherwise, it's just not my drink.
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xZeroStrike (46) | October 23, 2016 4:01am
You wanted it, you got it! <3

Here is a "Pros & Cons" with that "solid" frame for you! Well, I guess it is solid because I haven't seen one of them fall apart yet. :)


The preview



So, that's that. Now I'll drop the code below. 2 things I need to mention though:
- You can adjust the values. If you want smaller letters or other colors you can adjust those.
- I have placed #'s on places where there's a spacing (enter). When copying this, don't forget to remove those or... well you'll have random #'s floating everywhere.

The code
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Branmuffin17 (234) | October 23, 2016 10:45am
Trust me, I usually scour my code and make sure everything actually looks right before I publish. That is pretty awesome though, I'll adopt your version for this guide. I'm gonna start thinking of other ways to improve the look of my guides overall. I like generally keeping things consistent, so people that have read one guide feel at home when reading another.

Thanks Zero.
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xZeroStrike (46) | October 23, 2016 10:51am
Understandable. You're not obliged to use it, if you don't want to. Just that you said you'd want to improve your own "pros & cons" and that you liked the thing I made, so I figured I'd make one for you to.


Using this for your other guides isn't to hard either thoug. All you have to do is change the icons, the name (insteand of "Bacchus - Pros & Cons" it'd be for example "Freya - Pros & Cons"), and the list of Pros & Cons themselves. Maybe the colors aswell if necessary.
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WolfxEyes (1) | September 28, 2016 3:27pm
Oh **** fam, im in love with how you did the skill section and the other guide section! just marvelouse!:D Tell me those secrets.
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Branmuffin17 (234) | September 28, 2016 3:51pm
The skill section uses table BBcoding...

Took the following from the "help with BB coding" forum topic on SmiteFire... http://www.smitefire.com/smite/forum/build-guide-discussion/help-with-bb-coding-for-guides-2024
Code:
[table][/table] - Beginning and the end of a chapter which contains rows of cells [tr][tr] - Begins and ends a row of cells [td][/td] - Begins and ends a cell Important attributes are inserted inside td like td padding=10 Other attributes like tr bgcolor=585307 are inside tr tag

On Janitsu's post in that forum, he has a table with 3 different background colors. When you hit the "quote" button, you can derive the code from it...I've copied it here:

Table Coding Template


As for the "other guides" section, that's very careful use of a variety of columns, centering, linking pictures, using tables as dividers, sizing pictures, coloring, and a whole slew of other things...a bit too complex to just post here in a template form, especially because the way you would format it for yourself would be significantly different than the way I have it for mine. But I appreciate the compliment!
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WolfxEyes (1) | September 28, 2016 3:59pm
Oh that was a quick reaction.But thank you :) this would be a great help when im trying to improve my current guide.
Also you're welcome! It look really neato.
Btw, you probably don't do critisme if someone would ask you for your feedback ?
Since i'm still kind of new to this guide stuff and i would love to improve on it :O and you seem pretty experienced with it. I understand if you have barely time or just don't feel like it :). Either way thank you so much for this template form :D
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Branmuffin17 (234) | August 29, 2016 12:37pm
Significant update, added Conquest section, and unnecessary Beer and Coffee sections as well (I bet almost no one reads these, but I don't care, dammit.

Looking for feedback =)
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Technotoad64 (45) | August 30, 2016 7:18am
Branmuffin17 wrote:
added Conquest section

(I miss that meme.)
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Branmuffin17 (234) | August 31, 2016 4:30pm
I'd do this more, Techno, but damn it takes a lot of work...and I already have to contend with maintaining the rest of my guides, and here and there updating the SF database...and RL, of course =P. If most of my guides were for individual gods, it would be a bit easier, but I also have to worry about Conq and Assault (Arena to a lesser degree).

And then, I've really moved away from Ravana, so don't feel comfortable making a solo conquest section for him, and Odin is so dead with the recent update to Phantom. That leaves my Guan Yu guide, which isn't ANYWHERE near even the Arena guides at this point...it was supplementary to the Assault guide, so would need a TON of additions...and Loki, well, I just want Greenevers to maintain his, cuz it's probably the best by far.
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Papa Murmz (15) | August 29, 2016 1:12pm
I love the Beer List!

Since I am from the North East (New Hampshire) I don't really have access to much of what you mentioned but, I have had a taste of Firestone specifically the Luponic Distortion Series and boy is it DELICIOUS!
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Branmuffin17 (234) | August 29, 2016 1:23pm
Awesome, glad you like! Craft beer has really exploded...and now there are people popping up that are snobs just like there are for wine. "I taste a hint of blackberry and honey, with subtle hints of pine, cherry, and IMTALKINGOUTMY***."

For me...I either like it, or I don't...and sure, I can taste citrus whatever...which I like, so...hahaha! #MosaicFTW

OH HELL...I totally forgot another of my favorite brewers...Lagunitas. They have some awesome names for their stuff as well..."Little Sumpin' Sumpin'", "Wilco Tango Foxtrot", "Sucks", etc. I'll have to add that in next revision.
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Harambe | August 23, 2016 9:05am
Joust, it works THE BEST man thx soooo much!! xD <3 <3
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DucksRock (41) | August 23, 2016 10:50am
i'm a simple man. i see harambe, i click like.
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Branmuffin17 (234) | August 23, 2016 10:06am
Excellent! Glad it's working for you! Thanks for the comment...
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slammingr | June 21, 2016 7:55am
Best build of all, i made a penta kill with it. Thnks!!!
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Branmuffin17 (234) | June 21, 2016 10:55am
Awesome, slammingr!!! At least someone has, I certainly haven't gotten a penta! LOL...
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JayDAxis | March 19, 2016 3:06pm
I've seen it before but I know there have been a few changes with Runeforged Hammer and with the addition of Stone Cutting Sword changes some of the builds.
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