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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Tlaloc1050 » July 16, 2017 8:48am | Report
As the title says, what should I replace Hastened Fatalis with on Cupid? Is the new "replacement" good enough?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by xZeroStrike » July 16, 2017 9:21am | Report
The Atalanta's bow is a slight substitute for Hastened Fatalis, but it does lack. The added movement speed will reduce the slowdown effect from basic attacks, but I doubt it'd be that noticeable to even make much of a difference. This is not to say that the item will be bad, but you'll have to try it out and see.

Possible replacements, in my opinion, would be:
  • Atalanta's Bow - New 4.13 item. Since its goal is to cover up for the loss of Hastened Fatalis. Tests required.
  • Silverbranch Bow and Ichaival - Helps with boxing. Pick Silverbranch or Ichaival depending on enemy team comp (Ich for mainly Physical, Silverbranch for mainly Magical).
  • Toxic Blade - New 4.13 item. Anti-heal on basic attacks with movement and attack speed tying in well with your build. Slight amount of penetration and a bit of health will also help.
  • Odysseus' Bow - Pretty straightforward with more attack speed. You'll have to see that your build doesn't overcap attack speed though.

Those are all the items I would recommend as replacements. You should try some out and see what gives you the best results. I'm stuck on deciding if Hydra's Lament would be a good pickup as well. It might be, the MP5 will allow you to cast more Share The Love, and the passive will work really well with Fields Of Love and Heart Bomb (Combo: Fields Of Love > Basic attack > Heart Bomb > Basic Attack).

Your thoughts?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » July 16, 2017 10:20am | Report
This comment of mine contains my thoughts on Atalanta's as of now. I thought, if anyone could utilize it better than other hunters, it would be Medusa, but still it's bleh.

Anyway, Tlaloc, depends on how you want to build him. Do you want a base Trans build with either crit or Qin's? Or base Devo's + crit? Or do you want to avoid both stacking items altogether?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kriega1 » July 16, 2017 10:28am | Report
You could get Winged Blade instead.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by BestMinionEver » July 16, 2017 12:27pm | Report
Depends on what build you want to go.

Qin's or crit.

How do you normally build?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » July 16, 2017 12:38pm | Report
@Marki: same as what I said lol...here's Tlaloc's guide if you want to check it out as he currently has it: https://www.smitefire.com/smite/guide/cupid-has-landed-4-12-16429]
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by BestMinionEver » July 16, 2017 2:23pm | Report
Oh lol, my bad.
I would go for rage or that other crit item for that build.
Or get trans instead of devos then get asi :)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » July 16, 2017 2:32pm | Report
Wasn't meaning to point it out negatively, just that you and I had the same idea =)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Tlaloc1050 » July 16, 2017 8:35pm | Report
Thanks for the replies!

To answer your question, id usually go Devos + crit on non conquest modes. Devos + crit is the one I need help with to replace fatalis. For conquest, I'd go with the objective pusher build which has no crit but trans and more pen instead. I haven't written an item explanation for that one yet.

@xZeroStrike Hydra's on Cupid is something I've never tried, but I've heard it works well on Artemis.

For people on PS4, pressing Square + R2 with regular casting will make heart bomb AND a basic land at the same time. Except you'll of course get the basic attack penalty. Pressing square twice won't give you the basic attack penalty. So what I've gotta test is whether that basic will proc Hydra's

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Tlaloc1050 » July 16, 2017 9:09pm | Report
Still really wishing they didn't remove fatalis. Atalanta's doesn't seem so good

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