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Smite God: Terra

Choose a Build: Items and Starts

Items and Starts Example Builds

Tap Mouse over an item or ability icon for detailed info

Terra Build

Start 1(Sustain)

Guardian's Blessing

Shoes

Healing Potion

3

Multi Potion

2

Start 2 (Vision)

Guardian's Blessing

Chalice of the Oracle

Healing Potion

4

Core Items

Gauntlet of Thebes

Sovereignty

Heartward Amulet

Replacements for Core Items

Stone of Binding

Jade Emperor's Crown

Void Stone

Pestilence

Lotus Sickle

Against Burst CC

Spirit Robe

Mantle of Discord

Magi's Cloak

Multiple Enemy ADC or Crit

Hide of the Nemean Lion

Midgardian Mail

Spectral Armor

Cooldowns

Relic Dagger

Breastplate of Valor

Genji's Guard

Against Executes

Mail of Renewal

Stone of Gaia

Multiple AA Allies

Shogun's Kusari

Against Stealth

Mystical Mail

Relics

Heavenly Wings

Horrific Emblem

Magic Shell

Cloak of Meditation

Belt of Frenzy

Cursed Ankh

Phantom Veil

Purification Beads

Terra's Skill Order

Force of Nature

1 X

Y

2 8 11 12 14

Crushing Earth

2 A

B

1 15 16 18 19

Monolith

3 B

A

3 4 6 7 10

Earthen Fury

4 Y

X

5 9 13 17 20

Terra Build

Cooldown

Shoes of Focus

Gauntlet of Thebes

Sovereignty

Heartward Amulet

Breastplate of Valor

Genji's Guard

Tanky

Reinforced Greaves

Gauntlet of Thebes

Sovereignty

Heartward Amulet

Spirit Robe

Mantle of Discord

Tanky(Sell boots late)

Relic Dagger

Gauntlet of Thebes

Sovereignty

Heartward Amulet

Spirit Robe

Mantle of Discord

4 Physical

Traveler's Shoes

Jade Emperor's Crown

Sovereignty

Midgardian Mail

Relic Dagger

Breastplate of Valor

4 Magical

Reinforced Greaves

Gauntlet of Thebes

Heartward Amulet

Pestilence

Mail of Renewal

Genji's Guard

Alternate Core (Sell Stone of Binding Late)

Traveler's Shoes

Stone of Binding

Lotus Sickle

Void Stone

Stone of Gaia

Spirit Robe

Mantle of Discord

Terra's Skill Order

Force of Nature

1 X

Y

1 8 11 12 14

Crushing Earth

2 A

B

3 15 16 18 19

Monolith

3 B

A

2 4 6 7 10

Earthen Fury

4 Y

X

5 9 13 17 20

Introduction

Revision History

Welcome to my guide on my favorite and most played god in SMITE, . This guide will focus on how to make the most of in the support role in season 5. can also be played with some success in the solo lane, however she is best suited to be played as a support, and that is what this guide will focus on.

Stats and Elements

These are Terra's base stats, along with the elements that comprise her kit.

Stats

Kit Elements

With her root being back, I believe that is in a strong spot at the moment, and this guide will teach you how to make the most of her in the new season 5 conquest map. I will try my best to keep this guide updated as the season 5 meta unfolds, so if you find any tactics or strategies that work well in the new season, I'm open to trying them out :D

Skills

This section will provide an overview for each of 's skills. If you are looking for how to level each ability, please proceed to the "Leveling Order" section for a discussion on when to level each ability.

Skill 1:Force of Nature

Skill 2:Crushing Earth

Skill 3:Monolith

Ultimate: Terra's Blessing

Passive: Standing Stones

Leveling Order

This section will go over how to level from 1-20. Overall, she is easy to level, but there is an interesting decision for you to make at level one. If you are looking for a description of each ability, please go to the "Skills" section.

Levels one and two - Option 1

Levels one and two - Option 2

Level 3

Level 4

Level 5

Post Level 5 Priority

Items

DISCLAIMER: The most important thing that I can't stress enough about Terra, is that she is not a healer. She does have heals in her kit, but to call her a healer would be almost be like calling Chiron a healer. OK, not quite that bad, but the point is, the heals in Terra's kit are not something that you should be building around. They are just too slow or conditional to invest into. In my opinion there is only one healing item you should look at in your builds that I will discuss, and that is Lotus Crown.

With that out of the way, this section will go over how to build Terra, including starting items, build progression, general build tips, and example final builds.

Blessings

These are the blessings that have potential with Terra.

Guardian's Blessing

Mage's Blessing

Warrior's Blessing

Relics

These are the viable relics to be used by Terra in the support role.

Heavenly Wings

Horrific Emblem

Magic Shell

Meditation Cloak

Meditation Cloak

Belt of Frenzy

Cursed Ankh

Phantom Veil

Purification Beads

Starting Items

Now that blessings and relics have been covered, I'll go over two potential starts

Sustain Start

Vision Start

Choice of Boots

With the starts out of the way, it's time to go into one of the most important decisions you will make when building any god: What boots should you get? Here is my take on each of the options as it relates to .

Shoes of the Magi

Shoes of Focus

Reinforced Shoes

Travelers Shoes

Traveler's Shoes

Core Items

Now that you have chosen your shoes it is time to choose item number three. Right now, There are three core items on Terra that you will choose between in this slot, ,, and (back to S4 spring split we go).This is how you decide what order you buy these in.

Gauntlet of Thebes

Sovereignty

Heartward Amulet

Core Replacements

The following are items that you can use to replace the core items mentioned previously. They are not the best items in terms of filling out your build, but they can serve their own purpose if you don't want to go into the standard core.

Stone of Binding

Jade Emperor's Crown

Void Stone

Pestilence

Pestilence

Finishing the Build

Beyond these core items, there is a lot of flexibility in building . So what is it that you should be building? Well, in the words of the great JeffHindla: "It depends." In SMITE, there are a lot of viable items that will help you in different situations depending on the enemy team composition and how you want to play. I am going to give a brief overview of items that work well as a support.

Spirit Robe

Mantle of Discord

Magi's Cloak

Hide of the Nemean Lion

Midgardian Mail

Spectral Armor

Relic Dagger

Breastplate of Valor

Genji's Guard

Shogun's Kusari

Stone of Gaia

Mail of Renewal

Emperor's Armor

Mystical Mail

God Builder

In order to have access to all relevant support items, you can set up your God Builder screen to look like this. This way you will not have to fumble through the menus to find your items, as everything you need can be accessed through this one tab.

Points About Building

With all that information on the relevant support items, now is a good time to talk about building in general. Outside of the core aura items, building as a support is very flexible. However there are some important things to keep in mind when you are building.

Anti-Tank

Don't Overload

Counter Build

What Can Help?

Selling Boots

Example Builds

With all that said, here are some potential final builds you could end up with, though keep in mind there are many more possibilities with everything I went over above.

Cool-downs (General)

Tanky

Tanky(Sell boots)

Against 4 physical

Against 4 Magical

Alternate Core

If there is one thing you should take away from this guide, it is to not treat builds like a cookie cutter. What works fantastic against some gods, will not be as good against others. The most important thing is to understand the viable options, what they do and when to use them. A lot of it will come with time, but practicing this game is a lot of fun :D

Gameplay

Now that you know all about 's skills and her items as a support, we are going to go over how to play to get the most out of her. If you are looking for general tips and tricks, please go to the "General Tips" section.

Farming and Timers

Before going into how to play , it is important to discuss one of the most important aspects in SMITE, which is farming. In this section I am going to go over some basics about farming with and as a support in general for season 5.

Values

Timers

Sharing

Clearing camps

Laning Phase

This was partially covered in the leveling section above, but here I will go a bit more in depth as far as your options go for starting. Early game takes a little bit longer to get through this season, which does hurt given her very weak level one clear. However, if you can make it through level one without giving up too much, the rest of the game should go alright.

Level 1 - Buff Start

The Idea:

Personally, this is my preferred start in almost any scenario with . The premise of the start is simple, you give up the first wave of the game to start at your purple buff in order to protect it from invasion. From there, you are able to go straight to lane. Clearing purple gives you and your ADC 110 XP, lane melee creeps give 30 XP, and lane archer creeps give 18 XP. So as long you get at least three archers in lane, you will hit level two off of the second wave. The more lane creeps you can get , the better though.

Terra's Special Start:

is especially good when it comes to starting at your buffs, as you have the added advantage of delaying your minions from coming to lane by five seconds with . To do this, you need to wait at the spawn door, and place down your walls as soon as the third minion is about to walk through. You want to try and capture the melees on your right side wall, and the archers on your left side wall. This is to make sure they are not all bunched up when they do get to lane, which would make it easier for certain gods to clear them. By doing this, you will give yourself an extra five seconds before the enemy is able to clear and make it to your purple for an attempted steal. is able to clear with any ADC between 5-7 seconds, and it takes about 5 or so seconds to make it back to lane. Since you can start clearing at 34 seconds, that means you should make it back to lane anywhere between 44 and 46 seconds. In a worst case scenario, that would lose you the three melee minions. However, as long as you are able to get the XP for three archers, you will hit level 2 once the second wave is cleared(the more minions you can get, obviously the better). This can also be done with which will cause a longer delay, but hurt your level one clear immensely. I am not a big fan of that, but the option is there.

Figure 5.4 Walling off Minions

How to Clear:

For this, you will obviously be starting with , since the walls will let you block the minions. However it also does provide the best clear, since it will do 100 damage to the buff holder, and 50 damage to the other smaller minions. As well, it will allow you to have active, giving you 35 extra damage after five auto attacks. When you do clear, try to bring your walls up as soon as the buff spawns, then just punch the buff holder. Try not to hit the smaller ones with your basic attacks, as hopefully your carry will be able to finish them with an AOE ability. If not, then punch the small minions until they die and get ready to run immediately to lane. As you are clearing, you should be watching the mini-map to see what progress your enemy is making in lane and if they are invading, or if they are going to do their own buffs.

Enemy Backs Off:

At this point there are two things that could happen. Either the enemy will attempt an invade, or they will back off and do their own buffs. If you get the latter, there is only one big thing to mention. At the purple buff on each side, there is a spot where you can stand which will award you with the XP and a bit of gold from the minions being killed under your tower. The spots on both sides of the map can be seen in the following pictures. If the wave was pushed under your tower before you finished your buff you should use this spot, otherwise go straight to lane.

Figure 5.5 Chaos Side

Figure 5.6 Order Side

Enemy Invade:

If your enemy attempts to invade you will want to go to straight to lane through the back to get as many minions as you can. Try not to fight the enemy here as it is just too high risk, low reward to justify. You need at least three archers to hit level 2 on the second wave, but obviously the more that you can get the better.

Level 1 - Lane Start

Level 2

Level 3

Level 4-5

Mid-Game

In the mid-game, you need to be effective in your rotations, and farming. If you have a lead, this is where you need to snowball. If you are behind, this is your chance to close the gap before late-game.

Rotating and Farming

From Ahead

From Behind

Even Match

Utilizing Terra's Blessing

Your Role

Late-Game

is considered by some to be an ult-bot in the late-game, however, she does still provide good zoning, control and peel for her team if used correctly. This section will give an overview of how to do that effectively.

General Play

Utilizing Terra's Blessing

Fire Giant

Warding

As a support you should have an extra focus on warding. In theory, all members of your team should be warding, but in practice, you as a support are going to need to set the example.

Warding

General Tips

This section will go over some general tips to keep in mind when playing to make the experience more enjoyable. If you are looking for a deeper breakdown of how to play the god, please go to the "Gameplay" section.

Terra Specific

These are tips that apply specifically to and her abilities. Using these will help you make the most of playing her.

Save time on your shatter

Line up your Monolith

Bait the dash

Stand those Stones

Stop them cold

Ranged stuns win games

Don't waste the walls

Monolith is a body block

They shall not pass

Though tempting them to try is funny

Ult your carry's ult

Full combo burst hurts

You'll feel dumb if you do this

Might as well get some healing

Dash out of base

Igneous is puke

General Support

These tips are more general, and are good things to keep in mind regardless of the god you are playing.

Wards can body block

Relic cool-downs are important

Use your time wisely

Match-ups

This section will cover the match-ups has with all 92 gods in SMITE. It will cover if they are a good match as a teammate and as an enemy, the pros and cons of each, tips on playing the match-up, and items to think about for countering purposes. Below each god icon is a match-up rating with the following meanings:

EZ LIFE: This match-up gives a big advantage overall.
EASY: This match-up favors overall, but won't be an insta-win.
FAIR: This match-up is pretty even with neither god having the upper hand.
TOUGH: This match-up requires careful, thoughtful play to be successful.
NIGHTMARE: This match-up hard counters and should be avoided.

THIS SECTION IS A WORK IN PROGRESS THAT WILL BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE ALL GODS IN SMITE.

TOUGH

Agni

EASY

Ah Muzen Cab

EASY

Ah Puch

FAIR

Amaterasu

FAIR

Anhur

EASY

Anubis

FAIR

Ao Kuang

EASY

Aphrodite

EASY

Apollo

FAIR

Arachne

NIGHTMARE

Ares

NIGHTMARE

Artio

As a Teammate

Pros:

-Her strong frontline ability lets you focus more on backline support play.
-Strong and sneaky sustain combo
-Movement speed helps her slow dash

Cons:

-Doesn't have an ult that benefits from Terra's Blessing, and your team will lack impactful CC ultimate.
-Artio is scary and may force the enemy into anti-tank items which will hurt you

This is a good combo to have overall. gives a chance to make use of her abilities more often in the early to mid-game, which is big for a stance-switcher. You generally want to let an be the primary frontliner and ult whenever she wants to go in. You should be right behind her following up on her targets and focusing on peeling for her and your backline. Her slow/root can help setup your stun at range, giving your squishies easy targets. The lack of active ultimates from the frontline hurts

As an Enemy

Pros:

-Can easily catch her dash and interrupt her slow
-Ranged stun can keep her at a distance
-No big teamfight to worry about

Cons:

-Long, annoying and easy to apply cripple
-Protection shred makes you squishier
-Almost no kill potential early

Just like , 's cripple makes her an absolute nightmare to fight. This one lasts for six seconds, is an AOE, persists after her death, and follows her wherever she goes. Your main combo of using into is absolutely destroyed by . Even if you are able to complete your first dash, you are not going to be able to start your second, leaving you out to dry. The only thing I would recommend is that you do not engage while she has her cripple up. If you see her use it, that is when you go in. But make sure you make the most of the short time it is on cooldown. You can try to interrupt or catch out , but overall, this is honestly one of, if not the worst matchup you could ask for as a . If you see her locked in, you should immediately pray to the SMITE gods that she is being played as a solo laner, because laning against her is the opposite of fun. The month of her release was the worst possible time for a main.

TOUGH

Athena

EASY

Awilix

EZ LIFE

Bacchus

TOUGH

Bastet

FAIR

Bellona

TOUGH

Cabrakan

FAIR

Camazotz

EASY

Cerberus

FAIR

Cernunnos

EASY

Chaac

TOUGH

Chang'e

EASY

Chiron

TOUGH

Chronos

FAIR

Cu Chulainn

TOUGH

Cupid

TOUGH

Da Ji

TOUGH

Discordia

FAIR

Erlang Shen

TOUGH

Fafnir

FAIR

Fenrir

TOUGH

Freya

TOUGH

Ganesha

FAIR

Geb

FAIR

Guan Yu

FAIR

Hachiman

TOUGH

Hades

FAIR

He Bo

TOUGH

Hel

FAIR

Hercules

EASY

Hou Yi

FAIR

Hun Batz

TOUGH

Isis

FAIR

Izanami

FAIR

Janus

FAIR

Jing Wei

FAIR

Kali

EASY

Khepri

EASY

Kukulkan

TOUGH

Kumbhakarna

EASY

Kuzenbo

Tough

Loki

FAIR

Medusa

FAIR

Ne Zha

EZ LIFE

Neith

TOUGH

Nemesis

FAIR

Nike

NIGHTMARE

Nox

FAIR

Nu Wa

TOUGH

Odin

FAIR

Osiris

NIGHTMARE

Poseidon

EASY

Ra

TOUGH

Raijin

TOUGH

Rama

FAIR

Ratatoskr

FAIR

Ravana

FAIR

Serqet

EASY

Skadi

EASY

Sobek

TOUGH

Sol

TOUGH

Sun Wukong

TOUGH

Susano

EZ LIFE

Sylvanus

TOUGH

Thanatos

TOUGH

The Morrigan

TOUGH

Thor

FAIR

Thoth

EASY

Tyr

TOUGH

Ullr

EASY

Vamana

FAIR

Vulcan

FAIR

Xbalanque

FAIR

Xing Tian

TOUGH

Ymir

EZ LIFE

Zeus

EZ LIFE

Zhong Kui

Conclusion(Pros and Cons)

So, that is basically . My personal favorite, and a god that I think still remains satisfying to play, even after the removal of her root.

To summarize, here are the overall Pros and Cons to this god:

Pros:

-Amazing ult
-Knockup immunity
-Ranged stun capable of hitting multiple gods
-Good mobility with double dash
-Slows upon roots
-Strong control of jungle paths
-Post level one pressure is insane
-Can delay minions level one
-Elusive with high defense

Cons:

-Terrible level one
-Low scalings
-Weak against leaps
-Cripples destroy her kit
-Weaker lockdown than other guardians
-Needs two abilities to apply her root
-Hard to land stun consistently
-Slows can be countered easier than her root
-Stun comes out slow
-Long cooldowns on all abilities.

Thanks for reading, and if you have any suggestions or feedback, feel free to leave a comment. As I mentioned I plan on updating this guide as the meta unfolds in season 5. As well I'm hoping to make some explanatory videos about SMITE on youtube, so if you're interested in some mathematical build breakdowns, feel free to subscribe :D

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I have just started playing Terra recently. She is fantastic to play and this guide has been super helpful. I have actually played her in solo a couple times and done quite well. I just kind of guess on my build when in solo though. Was curious if you had any ideas or recomendations?

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Glad it has helped :)

Kriega definitely had a good breakdown of items to look at, though I personally am not very high on as much as other people are. Big thing in solo is realizing that all that I said about her poor level one is amplified when you don't have a hunter with you to help clear. It is super important to play safe, as pretty much every warrior will pressure you hard until you get your other abilities online. Once you do though you can start to be more aggressive, but without a hunter you are not going to be looking for kills unless your opponent misplays, or you build a substantial lead. From there just try to make the most out of your rotations to be using your ult in big spots for team fights.

With respect to boots, pen boots are definitely better in solo compared to support, but even with them you probably won't be soloing your opponent as much. They are nice if you can afford to take them, and usually I would make that decision based on how confident I am that I will get my blue buff consistently. If you are up against a high pressure jungle/solo (ie and ) then you will want to grab to help you stay in lane longer.

Good luck :)

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Generic examples: Start: , , .

Against Physical solo laner: , , , (or if anti-heal is needed), , .

Against Magical solo laner: , , (or against healer), , , .

Also something you can use for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF1J5-RNHKo

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Thank you, this looks good. Its fairly similar to what I have been using.

What are your thoughts on penetration boots? I have been using shoes of focus as well and the issue I run into sometimes is I don't do enough damage to force a back from the enemy.

What are your thoughts on gem of isolation instead of Rod of Asciepius?

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is better on other guardian solos like (not sure other guardian solos even get it to be honest). makes better lategame use of .

Penetration boots is ok if you think you will cap cooldown reduction in your build (also remember that gives 10% cdr and you also have blue buff as well), but unnecessary if you have a place for in your build, which may normally be the case.

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Very curious on your thoughts on these changes...on the theoretical side of things, what's your first instinct on how this changes her?

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She's definitely going to feel a lot more interactive to play now. That new ult is definitely going to see some nerfs to the numbers in the coming patches. It is weaker in the early to mid game without the global presence, but the local presence is going to feel so much more impactful now. So much damage, healing and mitigation on a 90 second cooldown. I love it. With that and her root back I think this easily places her as a top 3 support again and at least for the time being she will be high priority in the P&B phase.

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Just stopping in to say that it's great to see you maintaining your guide =)

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Thank you thank you :) there's a still a bunch I want to add, but the middle of exam season has made it a bit tough to completely finish off haha.

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Have you tested how the CDR on the ult works?
Tried to find something on it on google, but could not find any proof.

Like does the cooldown stack up to 80% with this or is it still 40% cap.

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40% cap

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Did you test it? :p

In theory it is 40% ofc. but it is Hi Rez after all hehe

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I have tested it and can confirm you can't go above the 40% cap unfortunately.

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40% is pretty stupid though :(

It makes it so that you kind of dont want to build CDR, but I guess you should because then you can give your teammates 40 CDR more often. But ppl need to make use of it. I have to admit that I didnt know it gave CDR, thought it gave CCR.

So I have never thought about spaming stuff in combination with it or wait for the ult before using ult.

Most definetly going to type out that it gives CDR when I play her haha

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Yeah building full CDR takes away the benefit from yourself, but being able to give your team 40% CDR (and the other benefits) every 66 seconds as opposed to every 110 seconds is what can make it worth. Plus her other abilities are on long cooldowns, so building CDR is still strong even though it makes her ult lose that element for her.

Definitely a good idea. One of the most frustrating things with is when you ult to engage, then have none of your teammates actually use their ults haha. So many people don't realize what it does :p.

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Love the guide! As someone who wasn't very strong with Terra, this has allowed me to bring her over to Ranked and really show some pizzazz with her :D

My only suggestion on the guide itself would be to group your match-ups into difficulty tiers (Easy, Tough, etc) as group made spoiler sections in the bbcode just to clean up the page a bit so it isn't so long and it's easier for users to view all the match-ups in their respective groups (I did this on my Xing Tian guide if you wanna take a look a what I mean)

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Glad it's helped out :D

Yeah, that's a section that's still a work in progress. I wanted to wait to finish getting it in the best format once I get all of the information I want in there, and I'll definitely take that feedback into account :D

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I literally only have 1 thing to complain about this guide

is an easy matchup? Againts what kind of s have you been playing againts? I literally destroy whenever I play (She is my hunter main).

I love , even did a guide for her when she came out, but man I got to give you the torch, yours is simply... better.

Congrats.

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I've never really found to be a problem when I play against her as . Her escape is slow and telegraphed, so it's easy to bait it out then have her land within for a stun. Then from there she is basically a sitting duck. She also doesn't really have a way to stop from dashing through her stones since the root is only soft CC and her ult wouldn't be best used for that.

Though, I will admit, is notorious for being a god that beginners play, so it's definitely possible my experience against her has come against players much worse than yourself which biases my thoughts on the matchup.

I'll keep it in mind for the future though, because I'm going to be adding a lot to that section. Unfortunately I've already wrote around 10k words on this guide and now need to put some of that wordsmithing towards my classes :p

I'm glad you enjoyed :D

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Yeah, take your time to not get burned out of guide-making, or else you're gonna be like me. 11 Guides and the will to update none o' them lol.

Well, I'll share some of my experience playing againts then.

Normally, at least for me, it's pretty easy to avoid , by simply using when the animation that does for it begins to play. Then most Terras proceed to use ->, and if manages to lock me in place, I normally use into her and into the , proceeding to use and basic attacks.

Ofc, it all comes down to teamplay, but I think that, for a good , can be a Easy to Fair matchup, since this also depends on the enemy .

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Get Your Filthy Mage back to the mid lane where she belongs.

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Man, physical mages are the worst...

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Leave your hate in the trash bin! That's where it belongs! 4 Lyf

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Actually I'm sort of curious how well she might fare in the mid-lane with the Trans buff...being a physical god with high power, she should be an objective killer, if a less effective "mage" type in general...

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I mean has been played forever in the Mid cuz her ability damage is just ridiculous lol.

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She's just been out of the meta for a long time.

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An inspiration for everyone else that makes guides.

So much information I'm scared to try and read it lol, but wow

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Thanks man, much appreciated! There's a lot to her, but that's what makes her so fun :D

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Agreed with earlier comments...I read this one a bit last night, and feel this shows great knowledge of the god. I especially like your skill leveling section with level 1/2 options.

Curious though on your opinion on starting items. Right now it's a pretty unpopular idea to start with T1 , due to the high price. Many are opting for or (depending on need), combined with either for early vision or potions of choice. (Personally I wouldn't start 2 chalices though) Or you could even consider Oracle + s. Especially if you get the early level 2 , you might go for this type of start. I do see you sort of give this option in your 2nd start option.

One other thing you might indicate with is that, with really looking to always accompany teammates, this ends up being a perfect item for her tankiness. She's not going to be roaming the jungle on her own (unlike better clear gods like for example) so the fact that she has to build stacks isn't really all that bad.

Extremely great writeups for the 3 core items though...exactly my mindset on when to pick these up.

I personally dislike for the same reason you mention...no teamfight utility. Especially for a god like who has healing in her kit, I think it's a somewhat poor option. I'd feel like I'd get more use out of an item like this if I was a Support with no sustain/healing and didn't even get something like earlier.

Your point about Anti-Tank is a good one, but I really want to see how that turns out as the meta forms and builds are solidified. If you're the only really tanky enemy on your team, your enemies have to make a choice (unless they just default to S4 builds with TB and Shard). Do they counter-build you with TB / Shard, or do they go with flat pen and focus on the squishier gods? If you force them to counter you with anti-tank items, it's, at least in some ways, helping the rest of your team out, as it will take up an item slot, and those two items don't provide any additional utility (not even to objectives anymore!).

Love the build examples and the note about being flexible. Love the farming values and other info in that section. Holy hell about all of the tips. You spent a ****load of time on this.

One other thing on warding...for your early warding, you have one right next to the purple buff. Although that can help keep an eye on that timer, I feel you can get better use out of the point directly between your two red spots. The range on a ward is wide enough that you can cover both the path to lane from the purple buff, as well as the path to lane from the Gold Fury. essentially covering that entire area to lane. If you're comfortable with that, it allows you to place your other ward deeper in, or more defensively, etc.

Anyway, geez...this is a great guide. I honestly don't like 's kit, but...****, I might have to play her more (but I'll have to study your guide first). +1

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Thanks a lot man, means a lot coming from you as I have used your guides a lot in the past :D

My thoughts on the starts are pretty open right now. Most of my testing was on PTS, which is not the best way to judge a start due to imbalances in skill level, so now that ranked is out my main focus has been on figuring out the best start. The reason I like is due to being able to get your movement online faster. With so many places to be on the map this season, the quicker you can move on the map is more important than ever. It definitely did get a nerf with the price increase however, so lately I have been really enjoying starting with and then picking up on my first back. This is definitely one part of the guide that will receive a lot of updates though.

That's a good point about 's clear and . That was actually something I was trying to figure out the wording for as to not make it too confusing. does do decently well at clearing camps solo with her 3-1 combo, and generally solo clearing is more ideal to get your jungle to spawn back faster. But the clear will definitely not be on the same level as the like of or , so sharing with is good to preserve mana and build stacks on .

is just a really great tank item in my opinion and I personally just love this item for the pure tankiness it gives. The regeneration can add so much in a teamfight, and I think it works well on because her healing is either slow, or conditional.
is just constant regeneration and a buttload of health. It's just such a selfish item that it's hard to fit into a support build.

That's a good point with the ward spot, and something I meant to change. Originally my thought process was regarding getting the timer for purple, while still having vision of a potential gank. But I realized that you shouldn't really need the timer on purple, since chances are you're going to get an invasion onto their purple anyways, or at the very least you will know when they go to do their purple. Having the ward on the red buff then gives good vision from mid, while also potentially getting the timer there if mid rotates to take it early. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll change it :D

But yeah, thanks again. I've put quite a bit into it, and I'm still refining it to make it as informative as possible. Hope it helps :D

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What's the coolest for me as an individual is when people say I've helped them or they support my ideas, and they're pretty obviously better players than I am. Sure, that's not hard to accomplish, but your comment, or Estidien's, or Marki's...super cool. Duotem just likes to point out how I'm wrong =(

Also, I love Gaia...but just in Assault XD Maybe I have to get over that, as it's pretty apparent others, including high level players, value the item more than I do.

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Bran you're wrong...

Jk ilu

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I really like this guide. Play from time to time, one of my fave guardians. Just have two things to say.
One, your start. Season 5 is all kinds of messed up for supports, so a starting boots doesnt really help us as much as it used to. I've been told to start with rushing , which is great. I also like to start with a protection item when playing healers. So a suggested start would be into a Tier 1 or , and then potions and wards.
Second, you have and as counters for executes. Smite actually has an execute focused item, , which directly counters and , but the second one only when his ult is leveled up past 3.
Just some suggestions. Other than that, great.

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That's a good point about the start, there's definitely a lot of options out there, and I'm testing out a bunch of things to see what works well, those are just the two I'm confident enough in to have in this guide. The reason I like the start is that by getting your T3 boots faster, you have more freedom to rotate, invade their buffs to build a lead. Rushing is definitely a possibility, but it does have a drawback of being 2400 gold, which is quite pricey for a first item, and might get you outrotated on the larger map. Getting to build your stacks quicker is a nice perk though, I just need to test that start out a bit more to see if the delayed power spike is usually worth it.

As far as , I just don't think it has enough base stats to justify the pickup in the support role. has low scalings, so 70 power won't do a lot for her, 40 magical protections aren't a whole lot compared to other options, and you can get 10% cooldowns elsewhere in your build. While and don't directly counter an execute like , they do provide a lot of health and regeneration to keep you above the threshold, while not sacrificing overall effective health.

Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed :D

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really good build i liked your use of the bb coding and you had all the sections covered that someone looking for a build could ask for your warding and farming values was really informative good build.

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Thanks man! I put quite a bit of work into it so I'm glad you enjoyed. I'm still refining a few parts of it to try and make it as clear and informative as I can :D

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