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Branmuffin's ADC Building Tenets

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Forum » Theory Crafting » Branmuffin's ADC Building Tenets 4 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » July 21, 2021 4:16pm | Report
When building for Hunters as ADCs, these are the main stats I consider and how I approach my builds. Note that these are not necessarily meta / pro builds, and are not claimed as being best, but there's a method to my madness.

TL;DR for most, sorry. If you're willing to read, I'd love a constructive discussion.

Understand that there are a few points that affect how I build, and definitely not everyone will agree.
  • I don't like too much build inefficiency. If not building into Silverbranch Bow, I would rather brush just below the AS cap of 2.5 - rather than exceed it - by changing an item. While I also don't prefer mixing protection reduction w/ % penetration, sometimes more pen (and adding % pen to the build) is too good to pass up.

  • I hate the concept of benefitting from overcapping (i.e. Silverbranch Bow). I do acknowledge its effectiveness in the current meta, but I don't have to like it.

  • I don't always build for max DPS through the match. I understand concepts of power spiking, but am not always aiming for early-game dominance. In some cases, I'm satisfied with a general stalemate in laning phase, instead looking for efficiency of stats for the end build and focusing on what the ADC should be doing late-game (e.g. objectives).
So here we go. Reference again for my hunter DPS spreadsheet is here.

Starter Items

Crit vs. Qin's / Attack Speed

Building for Power Spikes / Early Pressure

I'm going to provide a few build examples for some of my preferred gods now, and provide explanations for these choices.

Cupid

Medusa

Cernunnos

Anyway, that's a bit about how I think about builds and build structure. Again, some of this probably doesn't align with the current meta, and I know there are some weaknesses, but I also think there are alternatively some different strengths that have made these build types feel good to me. Preference based on god and kit.

Would enjoy discussion.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » July 21, 2021 4:26pm | Report
As an FYI, the following are build examples provided by Kriega that should generally be good to use as the meta is shaping up:

Devo’s Cowl Crit Build: Cowl, Devo's, Exe, Wind, Deathbringer, Filler crit (Poison/Shadow/Fail-Not), Hunter's Cowl

Bow Obow Qin’s Build: Cowl, Ichaival, Exe/Atalanta’s, Qin's, Obow, Silverbranch, Hunter's Cowl (if went Atalanta’s early could sell Ichaival late for Exe)

Bow Obow Qin’s Build (low base AS Hunter variant): Cowl, Ichaival, Exe/Atalanta’s, Qin's, Obow, Titan’s, Hunter's Cowl (if went Atalanta’s early could sell Ichaival late for Exe)

(An alternative build path for the bow builds is to get Asi after Ichaival, get Obow or Silverbranch/Titan’s 5th and Sell Cowl for Silverbranch/Titan’s or Obow instead of getting Hunter’s Cowl

Bow Crit Build: Cowl, Ichaival (could sell late for Bloodforge), Exe, Wind Demon, Deathbringer, Filler crit (Poison/Shadow/Fail-Not), Hunter's Cowl

Trans Qin’s Obow Build: Cowl/Bluestone, Trans, Asi, Exe, Qin's, sell BS/Cowl for Obow, Titan's/Silverbranch

Trans Crit Build: Cowl/Bluestone, Trans, Asi, Exe, Wind, sell BS/Cowl for Deathbringer, Poison/Shadowsteel

Trans Power Pen Build: Bluestone, Trans, Asi, Crusher/Brawlers/Jotunn’s, Titan’s, Heartseeker, Sell Bluestone for Obow or upgrade to Brooch

Bumba’s Build: Trans, Jotunn’s, Crusher/Brawlers, Titans, Bumba’s Hammer, Heartseeker

Devo’s Ornate Crit Build: Arrow, Devo's, Exe, Wind, Deathbringer, Ornate, filler (Qin's/Poison/Dom)
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Kriega1 » July 22, 2021 2:31am | Report
Branmuffin17 wrote:

As an FYI, the following are meta build examples provided by Kriega:

Devo’s Cowl Crit Build: Cowl, Devo's, Exe, Wind, Deathbringer, Filler crit (Poison/Shadow/Fail-Not), Hunter's Cowl

Bow Obow Qin’s Build: Cowl, Ichaival, Exe/Atalanta’s, Qin's, Obow, Silverbranch, Hunter's Cowl (if went Atalanta’s early could sell Ichaival late for Exe)

Bow Obow Qin’s Build (low base AS Hunter variant): Cowl, Ichaival, Exe/Atalanta’s, Qin's, Obow, Titan’s, Hunter's Cowl (if went Atalanta’s early could sell Ichaival late for Exe)

(An alternative build path for the bow builds is to get Asi after Ichaival, get Obow or Silverbranch/Titan’s 5th and Sell Cowl for Silverbranch/Titan’s or Obow instead of getting Hunter’s Cowl

Bow Crit Build: Cowl, Ichaival (could sell late for Bloodforge), Exe, Wind Demon, Deathbringer, Filler crit (Poison/Shadow/Fail-Not), Hunter's Cowl

Trans Qin’s Obow Build: Cowl/Bluestone, Trans, Asi, Exe, Qin's, sell BS/Cowl for Obow, Titan's/Silverbranch

Trans Crit Build: Cowl/Bluestone, Trans, Asi, Exe, Wind, sell BS/Cowl for Deathbringer, Poison/Shadowsteel

Trans Power Pen Build: Bluestone, Trans, Asi, Crusher/Brawlers/Jotunn’s, Titan’s, Heartseeker, Sell Bluestone for Obow or upgrade to Brooch

Bumba’s Build: Trans, Jotunn’s, Crusher/Brawlers, Titans, Bumba’s Hammer, Heartseeker

Devo’s Ornate Crit Build: Arrow, Devo's, Exe, Wind, Deathbringer, Ornate, filler (Qin's/Poison/Dom)



I didn't say they were all meta, I just said they were all the main possibilities until we know for sure what the meta will shape up to be / what builds will be possible, post mid season patch. Also the Bumba's build there is a Ullr only build.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » July 22, 2021 8:12am | Report
Ahhh my bad, will clarify.
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