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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ThePerfectPrism » November 3, 2015 3:30am | Report
Vithaliy wrote:

I agree with Zilby, Transcendence + Soul Eater (300 HP!) work perfectly together.
Also, if I have a hunter with a steroid in his kit, I'll build Warrior Tabi instead of Ninja Tabi.

Sooo... Art Rama Medusa Apollo and Ullr ?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Vithaliy » November 3, 2015 4:20am | Report
I don't consider Apollo's passive a steroid as you cannot activate it "on demand" (even if you can "save" it sometimes) but Warrior Tabi could work. Ah Muzen Cab kinda have a steroid as well, as you just have to plant a Hive behind you.
Actually, I would only put Ninja Tabi on Apollo (not always) or Hou Yi, but now that the Ricochet has been upgraded, maybe I'll go Warrior Tabi as well.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Diomedes232 » November 3, 2015 6:45am | Report
You can dash through a creep wave after landing 4 basic attacks

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Bullfrog323 » November 3, 2015 7:16am | Report
I don't if it changed, but I remember that when the boots changed in Season 2, somebody did the calculations and the result was that 15% attack speed was always better than 20 power in term of DPS for basic attacks.

So, unless you are in this situation, Ninja Tabi would be better than Warrior Tabi.
- Most of your damage comes from your abilities
- You cap overcap attack speed due to a steroid


About the overcap, I think it could only apply to Artemis, Apollo and Medusa.
Ah Muzen Cab and Rama, while they have an attack speed steroid, it is only 50%, meaning you need to have a 2.0 attack speed without it, which is a lot, and requires 3 attack speed items ( The Executioner, Asi, Hastened Fatalis, Ichaival)

As for Ullr he doesn't even have an attack speed steroid, his ultimate passive only gives 25%.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ThePerfectPrism » November 3, 2015 7:39am | Report
Bullfrog323 wrote:

I don't if it changed, but I remember that when the boots changed in Season 2, somebody did the calculations and the result was that 15% attack speed was always better than 20 power in term of DPS for basic attacks.

So, unless you are in this situation, Ninja Tabi would be better than Warrior Tabi.
- Most of your damage comes from your abilities
- You cap overcap attack speed due to a steroid


About the overcap, I think it could only apply to Artemis, Apollo and Medusa.
Ah Muzen Cab and Rama, while they have an attack speed steroid, it is only 50%, meaning you need to have a 2.0 attack speed without it, which is a lot, and requires 3 attack speed items ( The Executioner, Asi, Hastened Fatalis, Ichaival)

As for Ullr he doesn't even have an attack speed steroid, his ultimate passive only gives 25%.


Still a on demand steroid. You have to be in a specific condition to do it
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Zilby » November 3, 2015 8:37am | Report
While I do account for attack speed steroids in some cases, I still prefer Ninja Tabi the vast majority of the time since you need it to go triple crit (doesn't happen that often but it's great when it does). Only god I consistently get warrior on is Medusa since she has an insane steroid and because her ability damage is so high.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Devampi » November 3, 2015 1:58pm | Report
just to point out some mistakes.

vithaliy you made a reading mistake zilby was talking about swapping Devourer's Gauntlet for Soul Eater (however it's a good substitute for the Asi indeed)

bullfrog 50% attackspeed doesn't immediately mean 0.5 some hunters have an attack speed of lower then 1.0 meaning you would only get 0.30-0.35 attackspeed (this is with a base AS of 0.8-0.9) from 50%

I myself prefer warrior over ninja when I can overcap or the person I'm playign is more ability focussed ( Neith is an example here as is dusa)

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by PresentPerfect » November 3, 2015 6:22pm | Report
Zilby wrote:

While I do account for attack speed steroids in some cases, I still prefer Ninja Tabi the vast majority of the time since you need it to go triple crit (doesn't happen that often but it's great when it does). Only god I consistently get warrior on is Medusa since she has an insane steroid and because her ability damage is so high.

That sounds good. Very logical. Makes a lot of sense.

Except it totally doesn't.

Even with the buff active, Medusa has more DPS with Ninja than Warrior's, and the extra 20 power makes barely any difference in her abilities. Attack speed multiplies damage; attack power adds to it.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by GameGeekFan » November 3, 2015 6:48pm | Report
Your sarcasm is honestly pissing me off. Its one thing being sarcastic at a comment, another thing being bitterly sarcastic (which this is, sounds like your belittling him. Even if you dont mean to, be careful to how you say things.)

You couldve just said why you disagreed.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by PresentPerfect » November 3, 2015 6:58pm | Report
GameGeekFan wrote:

Your sarcasm is honestly pissing me off. Its one thing being sarcastic at a comment, another thing being bitterly sarcastic (which this is, sounds like your belittling him. Even if you dont mean to, be careful to how you say things.)

You couldve just said why you disagreed.

Oh, I'm so sorry I made you mad! I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me, someday...

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