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Shoes of the Magi
Spear of Desolation
Breastplate of Valor.
In Arena, I like combo 1 over combo 2 because you don't have to stack, and you come online quicker (more ability spamming) due to rushing Breastplate of Valor.
Breastplate of Valor
Void Stone
Warlock's Staff. 
Hades doesn't have the safest wave clear since he has to get close to the minions to kill them. Warlock's Staff early so you can complete your stacks ASAP. You won't get the benefit of spamming your abilities since you are delaying cooldowns.This combo makes you more tanky, but it's very slow, and a bit risky to stack Warlock's Staff. Hades doesn't have the safest wave clear since he has to get close to the minions to kill them.
You should build Warlock's Staff early so you can complete your stacks ASAP. You won't get the benefit of spamming your abilities since you are delaying cooldowns.
In slower game modes like Clash/Siege, this defense combo is more viable.
Warlock's Staff
Mantle of Discord
Bancroft's Talon
Rod of Tahuti
Divine Ruin
Blink Rune
Purification Beads
Aegis Amulet
Frequent ability spamming.
Fair survivability from protections and lifesteal.
Fair amount of flat penetration + damage.
Use in Arena/Clash/Siege
Shoes of the Magi
Bancroft's Talon
Breastplate of Valor
Void Stone
Spear of Desolation
Divine Ruin
Hades a bit vulnerable. Mantle of Discord is a flexible pick up and should be delayed/skipped if you aren't being targeted a lot.This is a good amount of tankiness, but stacking is very slow and can leave Hades a bit vulnerable. Mantle of Discord is a flexible pick up and should be delayed/skipped if you aren't being targeted a lot.
This build is much more viable in slower game modes like Clash/Siege, where one minion wave isn't shared by everyone.
Warlock's Staff
Shoes of the Magi
Bancroft's Talon
Mantle of Discord
Spear of Desolation
Divine Ruin
Y
B
A
X
So why Bruiser Hades? He's slow. His ult leaves him vulnerable. Makes sense to build some defense.
Not optimized for Conquest, Joust, or Assault.
Use in Arena/Clash/Maybe Siege.
See notes attached to items.
Tips and Tricks coming soon.
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What?
What?
Well, if I knew what you were giving a what response to I might be able to answer the question. Is it to the whole premise of there being hades experts(which was just my way of asking for some help, which apparently other posters recognized)? I really don't know what your query is regarding. It was a pretty simple and straight forward question.
Jk...pls don't beat me with the belt again.
kriega mains him as an adc in ranked conquestMe, Gulf, and Mysterionz are pretty good with him. Branmuffin is familiar enough with theory crafting to give feedback as well.
So if you have any ideas for build, you are more than free to start a discussion here.
kriega mains him as an adc in ranked conquestMe, Gulf, and Mysterionz are pretty good with him. Branmuffin is familiar enough with theory crafting to give feedback as well.
So if you have any ideas for build, you are more than free to start a discussion here.
Ok, thanks for the input from all of you. I have only been playing hardcore a couple of months so I am nowhere near ready to think i have figured anything out. More often than not i just kind of have started looking at what I want in a build and trying to find what i can, since i am nowhere near as familiar with all of the items as a lot of you here are.
That being said, on any class/character I value movement and lately I have been really getting cc'ed a lot no matter what character i am on. I also know that some characters are more cooldown reliant than others(right now that is about the only complaint i have learning sobek), and just from the handful of games I have played with Hades it seems like cooldowns would help a lot with him because i figure spamming his abilities as much as possible will be a key part of staying alive with him.
With those points in mind, i kind of just slapped this together and was going to try it out. Only playing arena currently.
I know that if i didn't go full cdr i could add in boots of magi for more penetration, or i could put something in place of the gem of isolation since hades already has a slow mechanic built into his kit. I was thinking maybe to give that extra kick to damage(especially for his ult when grabbing opponents with low health since he can easily hit/grab multiple enemies might be the rod of tahuti in place of the gem of isolation. I also thought about
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, would mystic mail be a viable alternative in a bruiser build or even this one since it adds extra damage every second when they are forced to stay in the radius of his ult?
Yes.
Once you get better at positioning and once you have more confidence in yourself, aim for 30% CDR (get another 10% through the mana buff OR the
So in your proposed build,
Your thoughts are not too ridiculous sounding. We all go through a learning phase.
So to conclude: I would drop
kriega mains him as an adc in ranked conquestMe, Gulf, and Mysterionz are pretty good with him. Branmuffin is familiar enough with theory crafting to give feedback as well...
I'm more of a theory crafter like Bran; I haven't played Hades enough to consider myself good with him but I have seen plenty of good and bad players to get something of an idea of how to play him.
> Me Mastery I with 5 matches played: OH, yeah, my main
np. Yeah, it was fun. I will definitely be trying him out more. nice bridge build for someone who runs guardian and warrior a lot.
Add more situationals/alternatives: ethereal, reaver, magus, obsidian, urchin, spirit robe, elo helm (celestial helm), typhons (people don't build anti-heal in arena for some reason).
Also for arena i'd straight up remove warlocks as an option.
Add tier 2 bancrofts as a start.
Thorns and bracer could also be possible relic options.
In the first build example either swap deso for chronos' pendant, magus, obsidian or ethereal or a tank item. Get Divine Ruin fifth.
As stated in the purchase order notes, warlocks isn't for arena.
*this is more for his 1 and 2 than his ult.
It's in the purchase order notes.
For the tank build, why magus and void stone together? Magus alresdy gives a **** ton of pen.
Also, keep in mind hades has a really nice cc in his kit. I think he truly benefits from max cdr.
Itemization - Tanky/Bruiser
First, with builds, based on my previous comment that you pasted in, you know I like Warlock + Mantle/Spirit to balance protections and health. Not that you should get caught up with terms like "bruiser," but I'd point out that a lot of mages these days build that way...at least Warlock, with a possibility of a protection item if they need it.
That said, if you find it a pain to build stacks, then sub in
Itemization - Spear of the Magus / Damage
In all honesty, a lot of your build choices really are going to center around your effectiveness with that ult. If you have difficulties with that...I wouldn't try to force it. Your other damaging abilities only hit twice (maybe
So we look at build opportunities overall. He's got great scaling if you get all hits of his ult (240%), decent scaling in
Then, consider that, maybe,
So, if you bypass Spear, make up for it with any combination of
Itemization - CDR
I can absolutely support the idea of max CDR (though I don't think it HAS to be Chronos + BoV, and it doesn't have to be all super rushed). Patch 5.7 took away
BoV then is great if you face more physical than magical. Chronos is great if you want that enhanced CDR passive...or you get one of the two, and fill in the CDR gap with any of a variety of other CDR items.
In the end...he can be built a BUNCH of different ways. I'd keep things very flexible.
I don't think
I'll give alternative builds: Build 1 (bruiser):
Build 2 (more burst):
Build 3:
Extra Build:
Tank Hades Build:
With any "bruiser" build, I usually think it's best to get both protections AND health where possible. For mages like Hades and Zhong Kui, who have to be closer to enemies to deal their damage and don't have good escapes ( Hades will usually initiate with his escape), then it's almost necessary.
So, if you can get away with it (e.g. others aren't stacking), Warlock's Staff is almost core...combine that with Mantle of Discord or anything else with balanced protections (unless only magical or physical are real threats).
Also, if you're going to look to be a bit of a focus for the enemy team, then Bancroft's Talon a bit earlier might be nice, but only if you can fit it in earlier.
I can definitely see the appeal of
I agree that Health AND Protections are needed for an effective bruiser (
I also did mention that BC's talon can be built earlier. It's up to the user.
In order to save Hades escape, I advocated