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Smite God: Geb

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Purchase Order

Out of base Notes Generally speaking, I find getting 4 health potions and 2 mana potions the way to go with Geb

Build Item Guardian's Blessing Guardian's Blessing
Build Item Shoes Shoes
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Magic Shell Magic Shell

Core Notes I hate to put 4 items down as "core," as it kind of restricts your counter-building. I do it anyway for a couple of reasons, you've got 150 of each protection, some good auras, 30% CDR, and an even easier escape when using your ult, its a good deal all around

Build Item Shogun's Kusari Shogun's Kusari
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Pridwen Pridwen
Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes

Magical defense

Build Item Genji's Guard Genji's Guard
Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Oni Hunter's Garb Oni Hunter's Garb

Physical defense

Build Item Hide of the Nemean Lion Hide of the Nemean Lion
Build Item Midgardian Mail Midgardian Mail
Build Item Contagion Contagion
Build Item Tyrannical Plate Helm Tyrannical Plate Helm

Utility/Counter building Notes Generally speaking, once you get to your last few items, your best choices are going to be choosing between health or protections, Stone of Gaia or Mantle of Discord. I'll go more in depth later

Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Stone of Binding Stone of Binding
Build Item Stone of Gaia Stone of Gaia
Build Item Relic Dagger Relic Dagger
Build Item Winged Blade Winged Blade
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff

Auras Notes These all have their merits, though Void Stone and Mystical Mail have a much more limited usage for you as a support.

Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Shogun's Kusari Shogun's Kusari
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Mystical Mail Mystical Mail
Build Item Witchblade Witchblade

Potential build (My Standard) Notes This is generally where I'm at in my games. As for selling boots, maybe a Msntle of Discord, maybe a Relic Dagger. All kinds of stuff, its situational

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Shogun's Kusari Shogun's Kusari
Build Item Pridwen Pridwen
Build Item Tyrannical Plate Helm Tyrannical Plate Helm

Geb's Skill Order

Roll Out

Roll Out

1 X
3 11 14 16 19
Shock Wave

Shock Wave

2 A
1 4 6 7 10
Stone Shield

Stone Shield

3 B
2 8 12 15 18
Cataclysm

Cataclysm

4 Y
5 9 13 17 20

A few explanations and an Intro

It's Time for season 7. That means its time for some updates. There may be some continuity flaws left from the updating process. Please feel free to call me out, but I think I got em all.

My goal with this guide is to get as in depth as possible, to tell you guys how I play Geb successfully, and with any luck to pass that knowledge unto you. A lot of my knowledge comes from repetition over the years. Having recently picked up my second star on Geb, I feel I have his combos down very well, but building changes with the seasons. You gotta keep up with it.

Also, if the wall of text scares you just look under the second tab of builds, I've got some pre-made ones there that I have used in games before(They will be in order as if you never bought guardians blessing or shoes, so the last item would be what you replace guardians blessing or shoes).

I felt that I should throw in the formula for how protections mitigate damage in this section so that it is easy to find and might make a little more sense.
The formula is 100/X+100 where X is the number of protections that you have. If you have 100 protections, it is 100/100+100 or 100/200, or 1/2. this means you take 1/2 the damage. This means that 200 protections is not double the damage mitigation of 100 protections as one might think. With 200 protections the formula is 100/200+100 or 100/300, which says that you only take one third of the damage. This works in such a way that you cannot become infinitely tanky in one certain damage source. At max protections, 325, the formula is 100/325+100 or 100/425, meaning you take a little less than 1/4 or the damage done. This does not factor in penetration, simply shows the way that protections work in the game. This isn't my work, it comes from The word of Thoth which I got through a link on a reddit post by Flareb00t. Not only does it explain protections, but most, if not all, other mechanics as well.

Pros / Cons

Pros:
Very hard to kill end game
Great support potential with Stone Shield
High mobility
Very high defense with his passive
Brings a full team stun to a team fight.
Great tower / phoenix dive
Super fun #1 ability
Great for setting up kills
Really fat and easy to body block with
He's a rock!


Cons:
Escape takes 3 seconds for crowd control immunity
Weaker early game and some other guardians
Relatively poor at getting his own kills
Really fat and easy to hit

Weaknesses and counters

Weaknesses



His own early game. Geb may be an indestructible stone wall late game, but his early game? not so much. Poor Geb's early game suffers quite a bit in comparison to other guardians. Namely everybody's favorite beetle, Khepri, and the only tree cavalry known to the gods, Sylvanus. Unlike these two, Geb has a hard time holding his own in lane. This being said, it can be hard to get Geb into the late game.

Executes. Thanatos, Ao Kuang, or Achilles can bust right through late game Geb as soon as he dips below either 40%, 30%, or 30%, respectively. In other circumstances, a 40% health Geb doesn't really have all that much to worry about, given that he knows what he's doing and has a decent build.

Magical ADCs. Namely Freya, Chronos, or sometimes Sol. Geb has a naturally built in hunter defense, giving the old switcharoo really defeats the purpose of his passive, hard as rock. Freya and Chronos dont have any issues shredding through whoever they feel like late game, including Geb and as such, they should be feared. Sol, while less common than the other two can do the same thing, the sun goddess is a force to be reckoned with.

Certain assassins. Some assassins are particularly good at giving Geb a hard time. Nemesis, who can take you from full health to half health in a single ability while also stealing your protections is one of them. She is an expert at shredding tanks on top of that. Awilix, with her knockup, can very easily render your escape useless, ult you, and the shred you with all of her new penetration from her ult. Also Bakasura given that you cannot mitigate the true damage of his butcher blades. The best you can do with him is build against it.

Counters



Mages. There are many mages that rely on a hard CC in their kit to ensure that another damaging ability can hit. A prime example of this is Nox, as the root that she has can keep you in the big hurty circle, causing a lot of damage. Stone shield stops that nonsense from happening.

Assassins. Geb can counter assassins in the same way that he can counter mages. Many of them have their own CCs that they use to get off more damage, A shield can alleviate this. Prime example here would be Fenrir, and the ability to cleanse his ultimate

Anybody with ticking CC. I haven't fully tested this, but any cc that does multiple ticks of it, like the Hades, Hun Bats, and potentially Baron Samedi Ults will have one shield cleanse the CC on all ticks of the ult, not just the first one that was cleansed.

Ao Kuang. Geb is able to cleanse the CC on Ao Kuang's ultimate, thus negating the execution. This can only be useful on allies however, and will not protect yourself from an execution.

Fenrir By the power of stone shield, Geb can take an ally out of Fenrir's ultimate, rendering it quite useless outside of the base damage on it.

Ares Most gods can counter the Ares ult with their own CC immune ultimate, but Geb takes it a step further. Not only does Geb no get pulled by the ult, but when timed properly, and standing on top of Ares, you actually cause him to be the one stunned. The idea is that you hug Ares while he ults, and right before it pulls you in, you use your ult. You wont be stunned, but ares will if you time it right. This can be a bit tricky to do though.

Building Strategy

Preface
Just below, in the Items section, I've laid out just about every item I consider building on a regular basis, you'll notice that there's a wide variety of items from physical and magical defense to counter-building and damage. One of the biggest things about Geb is his late-game presence. As such, if you can build him up to that properly, you should perform very well, or at least you shouldn't be easy to kill. I intend to tell you how to prepare yourself for most given situations.

First and foremost you are a guardian. Your job is to keep your team alive. One of the best ways to do that is to use your abilities to harass the enemy. This often leads to you taking fire, which is not particularly what you want, but its hard to avoid it. How do you stop that? Protections, lots of em. When simply beefing yourself up doesn't work anymore, you'll want to build some items with auras to help your team further, and even then, all the ones I have listed give you extra health or protections too!

What to buy

Starting out
These days, there is really only one way that I start out my games anymore. It used to be a whole big thing with multiple first items to choose from, but as it turns out, its better to just get boots and split-protections first. That being said I'll start out with tier 1 shoes and build into a Shoes of Focus. That is, unless I have 2350 gold by the time a back for the first time. Should that be the case, I will build a full Gauntlet of Thebes just to get that stacking as soon as possible.

Overall, building has a very simple start if you follow this, however you do need to be somewhat careful as you will have no protections until you get your Gauntlet of Thebes Stacked. If you do have your shoes though, you will do a fair amount of damage, in turn helping you deal with the lower amount of damage that you can afford to take.

Second item
Second item is an easy one. Shoes of focus or Gauntlet of Thebes. Whichever one you didn't get first

Third Item
This is where the fun begins! You already have good protections from Gauntlet of Thebes and the Battle of CDR has already begun with Shoes of Focus. Most times this is when I build Sovereignty, but you've got other great options to choose from as well. I've been liking Tyrannical Plate Helm as a 3rd item, but I still generally feel that Sovereignty is better if not just for its aura. These are both physical protection items though, sometimes you need early magical protections. Should that be the case, I would have to say grab Shogun's Kusari unless you have some sort of weird team without any basic attack based gods.

Fourth Item
Fourth Item further increases the flexibility of what you build. Counter-building starts becoming more important come this stage in the game. Sometimes that means anti-heal, sometimes that means you need more CDR. Assess the situation. Sometimes its nothing special and you can afford to just help your team out. More often than not, I'll build Shogun's Kusari after Sovereignty or vice versa, but if you are against healers anti-heal is extremely necessary and you can pick between Contagion or pestilence depending on the type of protections that you need. As for CDR that you may need, Pridwen is always a great choice for the 20% CDR as well as the passive. Don't forget about your trusty 10% CDR items like Relic Dagger though.


Fifth Item
If you don't have Shogun's Kusari yet, you are probably feeling a little lax on magical protections, unless you ended up buying Pestilence for anti-heal needs. The point is, you need your protections online. It's much too late in the game for you to be squishy. If your protections are up to code, make sure you are at 40% CDR, it is really going to help you once you start getting into longer team-fights. Should you be feeling well enough in fights that you don't need protections and your cooldowns are feeling manageable, then you could look into building some damage in the form of either Tyrannical plate helm or Ethereal Staff.

Finishing up
Basically, rinse and repeat how you chose your 5th item. If you need protections, get some protections, if you need specific counters, get those. Recently, I have been really fond of building Ethereal Staff for some added health and damage.

Items

Core Items

Simply put, these are the items I find myself building almost every game. There are some exceptions like when they have a bakasura, I usually dont get to Mantle of Discord as I'm too busy counterbuilding him as best I can, but for the most part I always buy these three items.

Shogun's Kusari is a fantastic item for the early game all the way through the late game. With it the enemy guardian will do minimal damage to you and you will have plenty of mana to stay in lane with its 60 magical protections and 20 MP5. It also has the added benefit of 20% CCR, but the real good part of it is its aura. The aura of 20% attack speed really helps get your ADC online just that little bit faster. This early in the game its likely that they won't have any extra attack speed (though I have seen a few charged bow starts, which yields 20%). Even if your ADC does this start, you are still doubling their attack speed boost from 20%-40% which can certainly be the difference in winning a fight.

Sovereignty helps out early more than it does late, so I like to build it second item. The reason for this is despite the 60 physical protections and 250 health being very helpful all game, the aura of 15 physical protections and 25 HP5 begins to become less effective as the game goes on. Despite this, it is a good item to have, though when the game goes long enough for me to get the money, I do find myself selling it for other items, though that is rare.

Pridwen is a fantastic item. Not only does it slightly boost both physical and magical protections for you, it gives you 20% CDR and a self shield. I would not generally say its extra kill potential, but I have gotten a couple kills with the damage on Pridwen. Good for a little bit of extra damage in the right spots though. Having a self shield also means that you will be less likely to shield yourself, which saves it for when your allies are in danger. A note about the shield, though it gets big, it is unlikely that It will get as big as your Stone Shield due to you needing to have reached the cap limit of both physical and magical protections to do this. It's just unlikely. Very easy to have a 400 health shield after you ult though.

Gauntlet of Thebes is a really simple, yet really effective support item. It doesn't do anything crazy like releasing a shockwave when you drop below 30% health or anything, but it does give you a lot of base stats. Fully stacked, it gives you 60 of each protection and 275 health. That is a great combination of defenses for yourself, and should the game get down into the double digits of health, the 10 protection aura could actually help your team out a bit.

Magical Defense

These are generally my go to items when looking for some extra magical defense given that they come equipped with a good amount of magical protections and a slew of other helpful perks

Oni Hunter's Garb yields 60 magical protections as well as a bit of health and some extra MP5(You might overcap on MP5, but that's no big deal), but the impressive part of this item is in its passive. In any late game teamfight, having Oni Hunter's Garb in your build will help you take just about 10% less damage from all incoming sources, which is a pretty good way to absorb some extra damage. Even early in lane, there will almost always be two gods around so you will get most of the passive's bonus all game long.

Pestilence can easily be overlooked as an anti-heal item, and the serious magical protections it offers can be lost. I believe out of all the items you can grab, Pestilence has the single highest gain in magical protections at a whopping 80 from one item, on top of the addition of 200 health, and a 25% anti-heal aura around you. This is a potentially very potent item

Genji's Guard makes for a great magical defense item due to its 70 protections, 150 health, and a lot of CDR with its passive. At face value the item only gives 10%, the same as most items, but it is possible for it to reduce each cooldown you currently have running by 3 seconds, which can really be huge when you are waiting to place a stone shield on an ally.


Physical Protections

Often times physical damage comes in the form of basic attacks, so the best ways to counter it are items that counter basic attacks as well as providing physical protections to reduce the damage done.

Hide of the Nemean Lion is my go to item for when I am being shredded by hunters in a fight, late game they can certainly cause you a lot of problems. While hide of the Nemean Lion gives a hefty 70 physical protections, its real potential comes through its passive. The ability to return 25% of damage back to the attacker is something that can be very dangerous for the enemy. Its also important to note that the damage returned is 25% of damage before mitigation. From what I understand in from testing is it means the reflected damage is before mitigations as theoretically with 300 protections the hunter would take equal amounts of damage as me. This did not happen, but they still recieved about 50% damage, which is a lot, and with the application of Stone Shield, he actually killed himself with reflect damage before I died. This was all done with a build on Ah Muzen Cab that I find to be rather effective. Outside of that, it also gives you a pretty good boost of 200 mana and 20 MP5.

Midgardian Mail isn't quite as good in the physical protections department as Hide of the Nemean Lion, having 30 less, but it makes up for that loss in its addition of 300 health, and a passive that slows both movement speed and attack speed of the enemy by up to 24% at 3 stacks of 8. The idea here is that you have more health to tank hits, and they cannot hit you as fast, thus making you live longer in a firefight.

Contagion is an item that I've been asking for, for the longest time. You're a tank, you wanna build anti-heal, but there's not that much magical damage coming at you. It wouldn't be right to build divine ruin on Geb usually, but pestilence just ain't gonna cut it. Contagion is the perfect item for this predicament! You get your anti-heal but you get physical protections. It lets you more effectively build against your enemies. Its also good for augmenting your physical protections if you've rushed Shogun's Kusari like I nearly always do and you need anti-heal 3rd item. I should note, that it is not an exact mirror to pestilence as it gives fewer protections and less health in exchange for mana and MP5. It is also very important to keep in mind that this does not stack with pestilence, so don't build both.

Tyrannical Plate Helm is honestly, a pretty great item based on base stats alone. On top of that, you get an aura that buffs friendly minions. Some minimal testing shows that a minion wave under the effects of tyrannical plate helm with lose its 3 melee minions while all 3 archers survive against another minion wave. It is a pretty good buff and only gets better if used on fire or oni minions. You don't really see it happening in game, but the effects are powerful and the base stats are good enough to warrant buying it.
Additional items

There is a plethora of helpful items in the game, often times an items use comes based on the enemy team and what exactly is causing you the most problems. I'll go into some detail here explaining briefly when the best situations are to build each of these items.

Defensive Items

Mantle of Discord is generally my first go to when in need of both magical and physical protections. Considering that the most you get from any single item for protections is 70, getting 60 of each from one item is a really good bonus. It also gives a 10% CDR, allowing for even more options in that department, as well as a passive that can help get you out of a fight, or potentially turn the tide of a battle. This item potentially gives you a second 5-man stun, so long as they're all within the 20 units of you, which is unlikely. Even so, you do gain 1 second of CC immunity when you drop below 30% health, which can be extremely helpful in the right situation.

Spirit Robe is a great alternative or companion to mantle of discord as it gives 40 of each protection, which is respectable, as well as 10% CDR and 20% CCR. It also has the added benefit of giving you 15% damage mitigation after taking a hard CC. If you were to combine this with Oni Hunter's Garb, you could be seeing yourself with a 39% damage reduction on top of all your protections.


Utility

Stone of Binding is a good item for many purposes. At 30 of each protection, 20 power, and a 15 pen buff for your allies when you hit any of your abilities, all for 1700 gold, its a pretty good item to pick up in a pinch.

Relic Dagger is another one I don't often look at, but it also gives a sizable 300 health and 10% move-speed and CDR. It will also give you a 30 second CDR on your relics. I'd leave it to you if you wanna grab that one, it really depends on how often you are using your relics, and if you are often struggling with their cooldowns.

Counter-building

Stone of Gaia moves away from orthodox protection giving defensive items, but instead gives a boatload of health clocking in at 400, as well as 25 HP5 and 15 Mp5. The item focuses on regeneration. The item also has 2 passives to further aid your inability to die. The first being great primarily against gods with CCs that can alter your position, which is mostly going to be a warrior or a guardian. The second passive just helps you regenerate massive amounts of health over time. If you find yourself in very long fights in the jungle often, it can be the difference between half health and three quarters health as you'll regenerate 3% every 10 seconds.

Winged Blade tends to be helpful against a team with a lot of slows. Not only does it help counter them by giving you an extra 10% movement speed and 20% CCR, it can also completely negate a slow and increase your movement speed every 30 seconds. Often I'll forget that this item gives an extra 300 health as well, but it is certainly a helpful addition. And too, if you are like me, and don't want to build shoes, this is a great alternative for you to grab to get a little excess move-speed.

Damage

Ethereal Staff is a good item that realistically is a bruiser item due to the health gains from it. It also helps you deal a lot more damage, making you not only annoying to deal with, but also a threat on the battlefield. 200 health, 90 power, and 20% CCR. Its all good stuff that you can put to good use.

Auras

Aside from being unbelievably tanky, and lacking the ability to die in many situations, as the support another way to help out your team is to provide auras with many helpful buffs to them. Unless specified otherwise, the range is 70 units.

Gauntlet of Thebes. Simple item with 60 of each protection and 275 health for you and an aura of 10 of each protection for your allies. It's not huge, but in the game of double digit numbers, it can help. It's really better for the personal benefits that the team aura as far as I'm concerned

Sovereignty is my go-to for physical protections. As the holder of it you receive 250 health, 60 physical protections, and 25 HP5. Similarly, any nearby ally will get an extra 15 physical protections and 25 HP5. In longer team-fights this can be particularly helpful by regenerating 5 health per second for your team. I generally think this would be more effecting than the aura on Heartward Amulet.

Pestilence is listed earlier under magical protections because it gives so many of them, and the anti-heal can always be applied to normal enemy HP5 (I believe, that makes sense anyway). Against a team with a healer, it is absolutely crucial to build anti-heal. You don't want an Aphrodite waltzing in and completely healing a 3000 health brick wall to full health in the matter of 12 seconds, do you? Generally, no. So I list it here again for its 25% anti-heal Aura.

Contagion is also listed earlier, but under physical protections as it give a hefty amount, but it is certainly an aura as well, so a good pick up if you need physical protections that pestilence doesn't offer

Shogun's Kusari marks where the auras become more offensive for your team. On top of being a good magical defense item with 60 protections, 10% CDR and 20% CCR as well as 20 MP5, It gives a powerful attack speed aura for your team. This aura doesn't help you as a tank too much, but it certainly can help a hunter or an assassin quite a bit, in some cases warrior and mages can benefit greatly too (When I play Kukulkan, I'll sometimes do upwards of 200 damage per basic, it can get nasty). This is a helpful one if you've got the right team to combine it with.

Void Stone is another offensive aura item that gives the owner a good boost in magical defense. With 150 health and 60 magical protections it is a decent item defensively, but It also provides you with 20 power and an aura that reduces enemy magical protections by 15, which can be significant against a mage who has built nothing else for defense. This item also has a smaller aura at a range of 55 units

Mystical Mail offers a lot of health with 300, along with 40 physical protections and 20% CCR to help beef you up a bit. The aura on this item does not directly aid your team, but rather can build up quite a bit of damage on the enemy team in the case of a prolonged fight. Dealing 40 magical damage per second to enemies with 25 units of you can build up a good chunk of damage, especially on enemies with low amounts of protections. Also, just because its fun and really sad to die to, it gives you the ability to run people down. By that I mean you can walk with a fleeing enemy and it will slowly chip away with their health and kill them. Only do that if you know you can secure the kill regardless, don't try to if there's serious risk of them getting away.

Witchblade is an item that I am starting to take a liking to as it gives a bunch of good things that you can use to your advantage. It gives a respectable 200 health, 10% CDR, 10% movement speed and an extra 20% attack speed, but your basics are going to be doing about very little, so its not a huge boost. It does have a pretty decent aura on it though. The ability to reduce the enemies attack speed can be very nice, especially since this should be able to be combo'd with Midgardian Mail for a grand total of 44% attack speed loss.
Movement-Speed

Sometimes you just wanna start moving super fast and zooming all over the map. As a support, there are some items you maybe shouldn't be grabbing, like doom orb, but there are definitely some that will help you out in the long run. I suppose if you really wanna be moving fast you could do traveller's shoes, but I'm not a fan of them because you lose movement speed when you sell them for Elixir of Speed and they lack the CDR on Shoes of Focus.

Shoes of Focus are just about the only shoes I ever go for when I do build shoes on Geb, the most important thing is the 10% CDR on them, which I believe makes them outclass the other shoes for a tank role. If you really wanted I could see Reinforced Shoes for the extra protections, but they really don't offer that many for you, so I feel shoes of focus is the way to go if you want to buy boots around 3rd item I would say, that way you can get up your defenses up to snuff first. I suppose if you are really returning to base a lot, Traveler's Shoes could be a worthwhile investment, but I wouldn't advise leaving lane that often.

Winged Blade is usually my go-to item when I want movement speed on a support. Not only does it give a base 10% increase to your speed, but it also allows you to use enemy slows to your advantage by cleansing the slow and increasing your move-speed by an extra 20% for 4 seconds. It also comes with a really good amount of health for you, though, the CCR will likely be overcapped by other items that you grab.

Witchblade is another common item for me to grab as the support to increase my movement speed. Considering the 200 health, 10% CDR, and 10% move-speed it gives, it is a pretty solid item to grab. Even then, that ignores the 20% extra attack speed for you (not really helpful, but pretty fun) and the aura that decreases enemy attack speed by 20%, which in the right scenario can be huge. This one is more situational as it helps to have multiple gods to use it to counter, but sometimes you just need to counter either the ADC or the Jungle. It works great against something like Bakasura

Relic Dagger is one that I haven't really built, but it does provide another alternative for move-speed while also increasing health and cooldowns. It also has the added bonus of bringin gyour relics off cooldown 30 seconds faster, which means more Blink Rune - Cataclysm combos, which is never a bad thing.


Removed items

Relics

Meditation Cloak is my preferred first relic. It offers the ability to stim both you and your ADC's health and mana instantly. Often times I will grab it along with my ADC, and we collaborate to keep each other in lane as long as possible. It's a simple spell, but quite helpful.
Blink Rune become especially potent once you hit level 5. The idea is that you can blink right on top of the enemy, pop the ultimate to keep them in place for a good second or two, all the while you smash them for a good 160 damage shock wave. Supposing they're still left after being beaten on by you and your ADC, you can always slam them with a roll out for a bit of extra damage and a quick slow, just to allow for even more damage. Thus is a very good item throughout the whole game, and I highly recommend that you pick it up.
Heavenly Wings is always a helpful one for getting you and your team in or out of a fight quickly. Much like meditation, it's a very simple relic, but when used in the right spot, it can be the difference between securing the enemies death, or your own team's safety. It is also important to note that when upgraded, the basic attack penalty is negated for your team for the duration.
Horrific Emblem has a similar function to heavenly wings, but can be avoided by items like Winged Blade or Purification Beads. It's important to note that Horrific Emblem has a shorter range, but it also does more than Heavenly Wings. On top of a very painful slow, it also lowers enemy attack speed and, when upgraded, damage dealt.
Magic shell is a good way to provide an extra bit of health in the form of a shield to your team if a team-fight looks like it might get dicey. When up graded it has the potential to block 2 very powerful basics as well, but at this point in the game with Jormungandr existing, its hard to do that. He does 2 basics so incredibly fast. In the right spot it could be the difference between life and death though. I usually prefer Meditation Cloak to this as it can be used after the damage is taken, rather than before. There is potential to build both however to really provide for your team. This would however, mean that you sacrifice your Blink Rune, which is a rough one to miss.

Skills

You ever wondered just how hard this rock is? Well, it's so hard that it only takes an extra 25% damage from critical hits!. Say a hunter's basic attack damage is 500, without factoring in any protections a critical hit from this basic will do 1000 damage to the god that receives the damage, unless of course, it's Geb. A critical hit of this caliber would only be doing 625 damage to him. While these numbers aren't realistic they are easy to work with and easy to see how much of a difference there is between any of the other 79 gods, and Geb.

This is the ability where Geb gets his mobility. Once you hit top speed you are moving at the maximum movement speed of 754, so there aren't many gods that will be able to follow you, as very few of them can feasibly hit that speed. You'll also notice, this ability does a pretty good chunk of damage. Hitting for 400 at level 5 is pretty darn good for a guardian, especially considering the other sources of damage and the insane knockback potential of a well placed Roll Out. Not only does it allow you to chase enemies through towers if you so desire, but it also allows you to either knock you into your towers or out of theirs. If you choose to knock an enemy god out of their tower, just be wary of the fact that you will have to then walk out yourself. So long as it isnt early game you should come out without a scratch if you use stone shield. As a whole, this ability has some great potential, but is rather hard to use effectively, and can send an enemy to safety as well. Just... try not to do that.

This ability gives Geb his main wave clear and the majority of his damage output and a large amount of crowd control. When you get right up next to an enemy before using this ability, they will take a pretty massive chunk of damage from it, as well as being knocked up. Remember, a knockup is basically a stun but shorter, the enemy can still be hit. I find it will open them up to at least 2 of your basics when you do it, which generally means at least 2 or 3 from your ADC in lane. Its a pretty powerful thing. Another thing that is really great about this is it can disrupt gods that are trying to cast abilities. I can't even tell you how many times I've seen a Ymir walk up and try to freeze, but get hit with a shock wave instead. If you can see them start their animation, but not finish the ability, you know you've done it right, and man does it feel good. Aside from having good fun trolling Ymirs, there is another practical function. You can actually walk under the gods that you hit with this making it really hard for them to body block you into a corner. Alternatively, it allows you to get in front of them and body block. There's some real potential for this ability to be more than just some damage if you use it right.

It is of my understanding that each and every god has a specific ability that very specifically defines them from one another. For Geb, Stone Shield is that ability. Only 1 other god, my number 2 man Khepri, can put a shield on another god, not many can even shield themselves for that matter. On top of being able to provide a shield for your allies, it will also remove any crowd control on the target when applied, which very few gods can do. The shield will provide a maximum value of 650 health once Geb reaches level 20. For a more detailed explanation please see the next chapter when I go as in depth as possible on this ability.

If you're returning to this guide, you'll know that I said the damage on this was worthless. Man, was I wrong. I tell you what, if you're hitting all 5 enemy gods with this thing at the start of a team-fight, that's gonna be roughly a quarter of their health missing for all of them after protections. That is absolutely HUGE. On top of the insane damage potential this ability has, it stuns for nearly 2 seconds. It's such a great ability in teamfights due to this. It also allows you to quite literally yell "ENOUGH!" at the enemy gods trying to kill your friends. At that point you've just left them with 2 seconds plus whatever time there is on your knockup to think about their actions. Just remember, the less health the enemy has, the less damage it will do. It does do x% of their CURRENT health as damage. No matter their health though, the stun is dirty. When using it, just know that there is some charge-up time and if someone is right on the edge of the circle, they will just walk out before the stun hits them. A proper Roll Out or Blink will stop that from being an issue though.

Stone Shield

This ability is by far what makes Geb, Geb. In this section I am going to break down the ability into as much detail as I possibly can.

What the Shield does: The shield applies an addition amount of health and removes negative crown control effects from either yourself, or your allies. There is a total of 650 health to be added at level 20. The ability gains more health as it levels as well as 20 health per level of Geb. This means that as Geb gains a higher level the shield passively gains health. At level 5 with one point in the shield it has a total of 150 health, but at level 6 with one point in the shield there is a total of 170 health in the shield. 20 per level might seem like a small amount to add, but in total with all 20 levels it adds 400 health to the shield. This is significantly more than the 250 health that the shield has from it being lvl 5. Another quick note is that when you cast the shield, if both you and your ally are in the radius of the shield, it will nearly always target your ally over you to receive the shield.

CC Immunity: On placement of the shield you or your ally is cleansed from all negative cc effects. This means that if they are under a stun or slow, that is removed and they can move freely again. If the shield can be placed, the cc can be removed and, as stated earlier, that means unfortunate things for poor Ao Kuang and Fenrir.

Usage: The goal of the shield is to prevent as much health from being lost as possible. Early game, it is usually the case that to do that, you want to let your ADC take the CC first, then cleanse it. Chances are, the CC wont be the brunt of the damage, but whatever follows it. If there's no CC to follow up on, the aren't gonna be doing so much damage. On exception I have found to this is the on Ares. The damage they can rack up is insane, especially if all 3 land on the ADC. With any luck you can cleanse the first chain and they can dash away before taking a hit from the second one.

You want to think about it differently late game. Mages and hunters will start to blow up other mages and hunters very, very quickly. Considering most of them have roughly 2000 health, a 650 health shield is massive, being more than a quarter of their health and all. It can be the difference between life and death even if a CC is not cleansed in the process

Gameplay

Early game: If you want to be aggressive early, especially before level 5 you need to be careful. Geb does not have the CC of other guardians early game. You do have some pretty solid damage output though. At level 2, if you level your roll out first, then you will have a quick 150 damage combo that allows for a basic or two to follow up. Those numbers aren't too crazy when looking at someone like Cerberus who can do up to 170 damage with an ability at level 1, but Geb's abilities are much easier to hit. The point is, Geb has the damage of other guardians, even if he doesn't have a stun or a root before level 5, use that to your advantage, but make sure you aren't taking minion fire. Minions can be scarier than any god on the map early in the game. If you are new to the game, don't forget that attacking enemy gods will make the minions attack you, and it is incredibly likely that a stray shock wave will hit an enemy at its max range.

If you are successfully being aggressive and keeping yourself healthy, be wary of an early gank from their jungler, it is a rare occurrence in my experience, but it will make the situation go south pretty quick. With that in mind, if you get a wave to their tower before their purple buff has been taken, go over there with your adc. I find that many times if they come to contest it, they either lose the fight or a minion wave of exp, which is huge that early in the game.

As far as consumables this early in the game, keep an eye on how much mana you seem to be using and how quickly you are losing health you'll need to pick one type of potion as you should be getting Chalice of the Oracle as soon as you possibly can, unless you plan on placing less than 8 wards, which you should absolutely be placing more than that. Just know that you only have one consumable spot open for potions.

Laning Phase: The laning phase is fairly simple, even though it isn't where Geb shines. There isn't too much difference gameplay wise between early game and laning phase, except that Geb gets better. At this point you should have your first item built and your ultimate. This makes you a force to be reckoned with considering you can easily stun both characters in the duo lane and proceed to knock them up for a good chunk of damage as well.

The most important thing for you to do here is keep you and your ADC alive. This is why I like to pick up a meditation cloak for my first relic, it really helps keep them alive. Keep in mind who it is that you are laning against and who your ADC is. These are key points for how to use your shield. The debate comes down to if you want to cleanse CC or shield damage. Say you're against a ymir and he starts walking at you. He manages to freeze your ADC after you put a shield on him, from there he uses his glacial strike and smacks your ADC with a couple of basics. At this point, Ymir has done a lot of damage, this doesn't even account for the possibility of minion damage or enemy ADC damage. Had the shield been placed after Ymir had stunned your ADC, he would have been able to potentially walk out of the glacial strike and taken a lot less damage. It's little things like that that are going to separate a decent Geb from a Great one.

On the note of keeping people alive, buy Chalice of the Oracle. Wards are some of the best things in the game, especially if all five people on a team are using them. For you though, you want to place them in two spots, symmetrical on the map. They need to cover the path from purple buff to lane, and make sure it touches the outer wall of the gold fury arena so an assassin can't hug that wall and slip by undetected. If your ADC has wards, they can place one of them in between your two to deal with a jump over the gold fury wall, and the other can go anywhere. Any ward on the map is helpful at least a little bit.

At this point in the game, don't be afraid to use your ultimate defensively. Geb is a teamfight guardian, so you aren't gonna find a "perfect" situation to use it on multiple people. The best use for it this stage in the game is either pull people off of your ADC or stun a guy who is running away so your ADC can shoot him up a little bit more easily.

Also, don't be afraid to gank mid lane. Most allied mids would benefit greatly from the CC you can offer with your ult, and the damage is always nice too. Also keep in mind that you can get there pretty darn quick with a use of your Roll Out.

Once you start rotating around more, it's possible the enemy, or your team may want to take Fire Giant. Make sure that you are putting Sentry Wards on it to see if the enemy team is has it warded, and to make it safer overall for your team to take it if they wish. You definitely don't want to get caught out with no vision of the fire-giant why the enemy goes in and takes it form right under your nose

Late Game: Late game is Geb time. A full build, level 20 Geb is not a fun thing to fight, supposing he know's what he is doing. This is the stage in the game where his refusal to die becomes even more important, and his ability to be stun an entire team for nearly two seconds, while also doing pretty massive amounts of damage (I've beaten mids in player damage done on a few occasions) is huge in a 5v5 brawl. This is really the stage in the game that you want Blink. The idea is that you can blink into a fight, perhaps a fire giant fight even, pop an ult, cause some chaos, and still have your Roll Out to get out if necessary. It's generally important that you don't die in the late game, so saving your Roll Out for an escape is huge, most gods wont be able to stop you once you get going.

A really hard counter.



This has section has been a good time coming with Olorun having been out for a couple of weeks now, but it is definitely somethings that needs to be gone over.

My first thoughts when I heard about Olorun were along the lines of "The mad lads actually did it, they gave a mage crits." Then I saw that his crits only do 50% bonus damage. One jungle practice later, I concluded that Geb is completely immune to the crits on Olorun's passive. And, though it is not applicable to Geb, Shogun's Kusari also completely negates Olorun crits.

That's just one of two big things though. Olorun has potentially taken the title of best team-fight ultimate in the game. The right place and the right time make an Olorun ult a very scary thing indeed. Ya boy Geb can help out a lot with this. Chucking some rocks in the vague shape of a shield at your friends cleanses them of even the weirdest CC. The way the cleanse works against the Olorun ult is a bit strange though. Ive done some minimal testing with it, and it seems that it won't clear the effect from you or the entire duration of Olorun's ult. It might be about 2 seconds or so. I do still need to look into this more, because the cleanse does work, which can be huge. Especially when you can ult and cast 2 shields next patch.

Nuances with Different ADCs (WIP section)

Preface

Among the differnt ADCs you will see, there are a few key differences to watch out for. The first, and possibly most important is whether or not they have an escape. Geb does a fantastic job getting is allies out of sticky situations. If you don't believe me, I present to you Exhibit A.


Exhibit A^ (Now in HD!)

Video Analysis
This was a game that I was playing with one of my friends, my preferred ADC to support as the two of us just work very well together. There are some things that this video demonstrates really well about my guide. The first thing to note is the wards. Both of us saw the Ne Zha on the map well before a gank could be executed. In effect we ganked the Ne Zha. As you can see, Ne Zha was as good as dead as soon as he entered my lane, Which can be seen is that it only takes one more basic from Rama to kill him after the ultimate ends.

From there, you can just barely make out the icon of the Shogun's Kusari buff on the top left of Rama's health bar, which considering how close the situation was and the fact that Rama missed only 2 or 3 shots from what I could tell, it was the difference between winning that fight or losing it.

The next thing I want to draw attention to is the fact that both of us had a meditation cloak in this game. The first one is a little hard to notice, but I used it right after Rama landed from the Ne Zha ult, and Rama used his right before Xbalanque ulted. Once agian, considering that Rama had his health down to single digits at the end of the clip, having both of those definitely saved his life, enabling the triple kill in the process.

I had also mentioned minions and their potential damage output on you if you arent careful. Unfortunately, I don't know how much damage Xbalanque took from them, but if you look carefully, you can see that they helped us eat him alive.

One last thing I want to point out is the damage that comes out of me as Ne Zha entered lane. We can see Rama hit for 6 basics in total, roughly 700 damage out of him. Ne Zha at level 13 would have roughly 1300 health which means that the combination of Roll Out and Shock wave did another 600 damage, which is some pretty good damage out of a guardian.



What makes a good hunter for Geb?

With that, I'll segway into my personal favorite ADC, Rama. Basically, the early game can be a little rough as neither Rama or Geb have great wave-clear, but the catch is late game. Both gods are dominant in their roles come late game, which makes a really disgusting end of the game for the enemy team. If you wish to follow me in this choice, just make sure you don't get yourself killed all the time early on.

I'm always a fan of any other late game hunters with me for the same reason as Rama, but I've played with but for the most part they don't have as good wave-clear as Rama. I take Xbalanque and Artemis for example on this. They are the OG late game hunters anyway and neither of them contribute that much to wave-clear.

From there I'll note that Geb really helps with an ADC without their own escape. Take Ah Muzen Cab for example, whose escape is a little bit fast. Stone shield in particular really helps. As I've mentioned, it clears CCs on application which really helps a god without an escape in particular get out of a situation.

Lastly, gods that are particulary effective on their own early game and have their own escape really don't need help from Geb too much early game. In I'd be talking about something like a Neith. Wave clear is set, escape is set, even self healing is set. At this point, I'd recommend that you as a support play someone more aggressive early game such as a Ymir or even a Sylvanus who is really good early for the game.

I think I've played with just about everybody once or twice, so if you have questions for a specific hunter working with Geb, feel free to ask in the comments. I can probably give a little insight how it works. Just make sure they have at least half decent wave-clear without you.

Wombo Combos

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The idea is that you can blink right into the middle of the fight, smack people up a bit with your abilities, for a lot of damage sometimes, and then after youre done just smack em with some basics if they let you. That image is for the achievement "Use Your Fists" for kill an enemy with guardian basics. This combo can be really nasty and is the signature geb combo.
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This would be the light version of the combo, if you go this route be careful of hitting people with a fully charged Roll out and knocking them about 3 miles away to safety before doing everything else. Let it be known that this combo hurts even without the ultimate

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There are two things to notice with this combo. Geb has knockups, two of them. Ask yourself the question "Who likes knockups?" The answer is Awilix. A close range shock wave makes them an easy target for her to grab, and a fully charged roll out makes it even easier. And on top of it, if the Awilix can't finish 'em off, you're still there to put in that extra damage and CC.

My Play-style

From what I have seen on the comments on both this guide and my guide for Khepri, my decisions are questionable from the community's standpoint. In this section, I hope to make in known why I do what I do and how exactly it works in lane, because there are some pretty easy ways to screw it up and get farmed by the enemy duo lane.

NOTE! This section assumes you are against a Guardian and a Hunter, if you are not, adjust your protections accordingly to who you are fighting.

Rule #1: Party up

"Every single man in this army plays a vital role, Don't ever let up. Don't ever think that your job is unimportant. Every man has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain"
~George S. Patton


If you've ever solo-queued for support, you might know what I mean when I tell you that it is a lot different than when you are partied up with your ADC. The communication is certainly at a deficit, but it is unlikely that you will find proper synergy with your ADC while you are queueing up with by yourself to get random ADCs each time.

Probably the best thing I do in my games to perfrom well in lane is have the same mindset as my ADC, who I nearly always play with. This means that for the most part, we don't even have to make calls to get stuff done, or rather, we both make the same call at the exact same time.

It doesn't stop with your ADC either. The more the merrier as far as being partited up with people, having comms with your jungler will allows for successful ganks on their part, same goes for the mid-laner, and if you've got 5, the solo-laner is a great pickup too. Having more people also makes it easier for you to find who needs a shield for fr you to roll in and stun everybody around for 2 seconds, overall allowing for you to perform more effectively.

Rule #2: Be Aggressive

"Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more"
~George S. Patton


I really can't stress this one enough, Geb can be a monster if you play him right in your games. His abilities have insanely high base damage. As such, they can kinda chunk enemy gods. Its surprising how much damage Shock Wave does even at it's maximum range. This gives you great poke potential against the enemy gods.

Part of being aggressive is being able to take a hit, well where are you more likely to be taking hits from? Early game guardians (most of whom do a TON of damage) or the ADC who will likely run from you to avoid damage? Generally speaking, its the guardian who is trying to do his job and save his ADC. This is a major part of why buying magical defense in the form of Shogun's Kusari works as well as it does. On top of that it gives you early mana sustain that other starting items would not. The extra MP5 from the item, even at first tier, really lets you throw out abilities often with little penalty to optimize your ability to harass the enemy early game. It doesn't just help you be aggressive though, with it's passive it helps get your ADC online just that much faster. For the most part they will all be item-based so giving them roughly 1 item's worth of attack speed, outside of the Short Bow item tree, is a really good advancement for them, especially since you should both get your first items around the same time, resulting in a massive power spike for the ADC.

As much as I love getting Shogun's Kusari first item, it does have a pretty significant drawback: That time between first and second items. I've been playing around with it more recently, and I have found that tne enemy ADC's tend to hurt really bad before you get your first physical protections online. As such, early kills are your best friend. If you can shut down the enemy from doing anything in lane, you are doing a good job. There have been games that both me and my ADC have hit level 5 before the enemy ADC hits level 3. It isn't a common thing, but when it happens, it is a really, really good thing for you. This won't happen all the time, so if you do follow in my footsteps and get Shogun's Kusari first, just be careful of the enemy hunter, who will likely also have their first item as well and start doing just that little bit more damage. If you're lucky, they'll put their first 1500 gold or so into boots and thus have very little power or attack speed with which to kill you. Eitehr way, once you get your second item online, usually Sovereignty for me, you will be fine in regards to either the Support or ADC.

One thing that I like to do is pick up a Meditation Cloak for dealing with Geb's awkward teenage years of the game. It really helps bring either you or your ADC back into the fight after a rough loss or a Pyrrhic victory in lane, thus allowing you to go back in and finish the job. It works exceptionally well if your ADC also buys a med cloak because the healing received is then doubled. Being that you are Geb, you have the ability to cleanse CC from your ADC, so unless against an Ares, you can just cleanse and CCs for them, and at a faster rate than Purification Beads can at that. Another great thing that both of you building med cloak is that you don't have to leave lane very often, you poke or kill when you can, and be a bit more conservative when you need to, and the med cloak will stop you from needing to return to base aside from buying items. Doing this will help you in regards to not building shoes on Geb.

Rule #3: Survive

"If we take the generally accepted definition of bravery as a quality which knows no fear, I have never seen a brave man. All men are frightened. The more intelligent they are, the more they are frightened."
~George S. Patton


It will happen that you find yourself against some really early aggro-teams in the duo lane. Prime example would be something like an Ares + Cupid combo, which really, really hurts if the Ares can hit his abilities. In cases like this, it might actually be better to wait for them to come to you and launch a counter-offensive (hopefully with jungle help) after their abilites have been run dry. If this does happen in lane, I would suggest just using your Shock Wave to poke at the enemies from distance while also hitting the wave as best you can . It is very important that you don't let them farm you, especially because the ADC tends to snowball if you let them get out of hand.

Rule #4: Never surrender

" My men don't surrender. I don't want to hear of any soldier under my command being captured unless he has been hit. Even if you are hit, you can still fight back."
~George S. Patton


In my opinion, Geb is the Late-Game Hyper-Carry of the Guardians. He becomes a nearly unstoppable force late-game, and he can pretty easily stun an entire enemy team for 2 seconds each. The ability to bring a cumulative 10 seconds of stun to a team-fight is absolutely insane. on top of the sheer damage the ability can do if you use it on full-health enemies. You'll most likely be doing a quarter of their health in damage with it on top of the stun! The point is, don't let yourself get down. Geb can be hard to handle early without dying. You just need to keep your head up and know that once you get build properly, you'll stop dying, and you'll be able to save your entire team from a fight when the time comes, even if it takes your life to do so, 1 kill for the enemy is much better than 3 or 4. Or even if it's your life instead of your ADC or Mid, it's a huge trade that can mark the difference between a late game win or loss. Generally speaking though, you'll stop dying once you're full build.

Conclusion

I know there's a lot of information here, so f you have any questions or issues about this guide, leave it in the comments. Also if you downvote this build, please say in the comments why you chose to do so, so that I may make adjustments and maybe make you change your mind :)

Any advice you give will be gladly accepted and taken into consideration.

Please don't leave comments about the skillset as that has been set in stone and I will not be taking that.

Also, make sure you don't take Geb for granite, because he definitely won't take any of your schist. He's a pretty gneiss guy once you get down to it. If you do try to basalt him, he'll probably just wacke you into next century.

If you like Khepri, it's got a lot of the same info, but feel free to check him out here!

But at the end of the day, just remember that Geb is love, Geb is life, and "ROCK on!"

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Kriega1 (95) | September 19, 2019 12:53am
How is Gauntlet of Thebes not core? Instant sign of something being wrong.

No mention of Pridwen?

Shogun's Kusari is not a core item, it's a situational pickup based on your team's composition.
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AtomicPie525 (4) | November 14, 2019 5:29pm
I know I'm really late, but I'm confused. It says last updated september 18th, and you commented on the 19th. Guantlet of Thebe's is very much in the core section, and Pridwen is also very much there. I can see where you might say its situational, but I stand by my position on Shogun's Kusari
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Kriega1 (95) | November 15, 2019 1:20am
Thebes in the core section? You have it listed in the utility/counter building section, and it’s not listed in either example build.

Oh and your example tank build has 50% cdr...
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Branmuffin17 (297) | April 2, 2019 9:32pm
In that video, is that around 15 kills on one side and 10 on the other at the 15 minute mark?
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AtomicPie525 (4) | April 3, 2019 6:58am
Yes, that is exactly what it is. It looks like Rama had 6 of those at the end of it too.

Update: You can now clearly see those numbers
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Hadeyan (2) | April 1, 2019 9:23am
Dude you should go for 2 type protection and aura items for oppening more room for some damage or mobility items. Geb can dealt damage. And since Geb has his shield and partly-cc immune dash and cc immune ultimate why did you overcaped CCR ?

But its a hard effort work. And ı respect that.
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Kriega1 (95) | April 1, 2019 10:15am
Overcapping CCR isn't a bif deal. It's only really a big deal if it's something like CDR instead.
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AtomicPie525 (4) | April 1, 2019 10:13am
Honestly, I don't buy anything for its CCR. The items I want just kind o have it on them and my philosphy is "Okay, cool". I nearly always build shogun's and spirit robe, which is aready at 40%. If I then choose to go for Oni Hunter's for extra magical protections, I'm overcapped, but the rest of the item is still super good. Its just too easy to over-cap CCR in my opinion to worry about it.

As far as damage, I just find myself in a pure tank role as Geb. Sure he's got 2 abilites that scale at 50%, which makes them pretty nasty if you do build some power. If you really wanted to you could do a Void Stone, Stone of Binding, Divine Ruin combo. I don't have it in the guide at all, but I suppose you could do Pythagorem's Piece if you wanted some extra power while performing supportive functions still.

Way back in the day I'd recommend a Soul Reaver, which could still be helpful in current day, if the situations are right. I think I might go in there and add some items for potentially increasing the damage output a bit more. because you are right, Geb can certainly do damage.
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Kriega1 (95) | April 1, 2019 10:16am
I wouldn't recommend Soul Reaver, not since the nerfs, and especially since it's Geb Support not Solo, and you don't have much CDR to take advantage from it.
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ISK Hughey | March 25, 2019 11:06am
Great guide! Very helpful and descriptive. Also has the best Earth emote. Also I agree completely about your points on Gauntlet and emperors. As a Support main in Masters I never build emperors and wouldn't build gauntlet on Geb.
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Kriega1 (95) | March 8, 2019 9:53am
"Magic shell is a good way to provide an extra bit of health in the form of a shield to your team if a team-fight looks like it might get dicey. I usually prefer Meditation Cloak to this as it can be used after the damage is taken, rather than before. There is potential to build both however to really provide for your team." - you don't have any idea what upgraded Magic Shell does, do you?

Also where is Gauntlet of Thebes? Emperor's Armour?
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AtomicPie525 (4) | March 23, 2019 8:01pm
I do know what magic shell does, I prefer meditation for before the upgrades come in. With upgrades, shell is definitely better. I like to use meditation for the early game, then you have it the rest of the game.
As far as gauntlet of Thebes, I am 100% not convinced its not good. Sure you get a bunch of protections, but its relatively useless until you get stacks, and the aura is not all that helpful in my opinion. What is 10 protections gonna do? If you convince me that Thebes is good I'll put it in.
Honestly, I don't see emperor's built much, so I follow that train. There's also usually better items in my opinion. It looks decent enough, but I really feel there are better options.

Thanks for the critique, but I disagree
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Kriega1 (95) | February 15, 2019 4:27am
These builds are bad, and the support one has no aura items.
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AtomicPie525 (4) | February 15, 2019 7:24am
I'll be the first to admit the supposed builds are pretty bad in most scenarios, and need to be changed for sure. And I assume you're referring to Heartward Amulet and Sovereignty as far as aura items, because I do have them listed. I had taken a pretty big break from the game, missing the second half of season 4 and the first half of 5, so I missed when those two were given more protections for their holder. Those two had phased out of the meta at one point, but looking at them again, they do seem to be better now, and I will probably include them in my builds.

Thanks for the comment, and hopefully I can get that in shape for ya!
Update, I've added heartward and sov. and fixed up the builds so they seem somewhat usable
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Kriega1 (95) | February 15, 2019 7:34pm
Heartward was less meta because it got nerfed, and Oni Hunter's Garb was buffed. Sovereignty has been built all of season 5.
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boogiebass (38) | February 15, 2019 6:53am
I would like to hear your thoughts as to why you prefer the selfish support builds over aura items.

Also, in your guide, i can agree that overcapping ccr isn't a big deal, but i think it's unoptimal to overcap cdr.
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AtomicPie525 (4) | February 15, 2019 7:29am
I think a large part of the reason I prefer a selfish support build is because I play with my own ADC a lot and we work very well in that department. It's not unseen for me to build Heartward and Sovereignty, but I usually find there are other items that would be more helpful, however, looking at them now, they aren't so bad as they once were. If I remember correctly they took a big hit and fell out of meta, but they seem decent agin, so I'll probably incorporate them. I am still on the fence about Gauntlet of Thebes though.

The reason I do't worry about overcapping on CDR is generally because So many items give it. Thinking about it, the best thing to do would probably be to pick up an early Breastplate of Valor and sell it later for two items with 10% CDR Namely Mantle of Discord and Spirit Robe. I'll probably go more in depth in both of those things once I actually get the gameplay section fixed up, and not with season 4 strats.

Edit: To anybody passing through, this philosophy has actually changed quite a bit. No more overcapping CDR and definitely building some auras
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sunny108108 (3) | March 2, 2017 2:20am
Nice build of geb!
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Cooldillan (2) | February 13, 2017 6:34am
Ty love the build
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YabokuYato | April 13, 2016 3:18pm
You might want to update this so it's relics instead of actives.
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AtomicPie525 (4) | January 7, 2017 6:55am
Going in to season 4 pretty soon here I hope to have it updated after that, and to keep it updated further throughout, but yeah doing a relic fix now would really help it in the meantime. And sorry for such a late response
Thanks!
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WhyDoYouCare | April 3, 2016 7:28am
I made an account just so i can tell you i recently got a skin for geb but never knew how to build him until now. I saw your build and decided to give a guardian a go and now i can't stop paying them. Im going to try your kepri build next. P.S. Sylvanus is after that and i was wondering if you could send me a build for him? An essential coople items for him are Rod Of Asclepius for healing and escaping with health (movement), as well as Lotus Crown because....leaves??? Lol.
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AtomicPie525 (4) | January 7, 2017 7:03am
I'm glad you're getting into the guardians, always nice to see more of them out there. I first played Geb in an assault and I just couldn't get over how fun it was to roll around with his first ability, Rollout. I am replying almost a year late, and I apologize for that, I havent had much time for smite, thus not much for smitefire. Just doing a breif look through some sylvanus guide, I wasn't a fine of the items they had, if you're still looking for one and I find something or make something, I'll let you know.
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The_Uber_Camper | March 8, 2016 6:18am
This is a neat little build, you won't be doing very much except helping your team get kills but nonetheless it's pretty fun!
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AtomicPie525 (4) | January 7, 2017 7:06am
That's what I look to do as a support, or just what happens whatever I play. For whatever reason all my kills are gotten by somebody else, so being there to set people up suits me perfectly. Sorry for the late response and thanks for commenting!
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Webmaster | November 21, 2015 4:28pm
Il ya beaucoup a lire ici. Geb est mon premier achat Dieu. Je vais essayer votre construction. Merci d'avoir partage!
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