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Smite God: Cernunnos

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Cernunnos Build

Transcendence Start

Hunter's Blessing

Morningstar

Healing Potion

Multi Potion

Boots

Ninja Tabi

Warrior Tabi

Core

Transcendence

The Executioner

Qin's Sais

6th Item

Notes Pick whichever passive you prefer.

In this build overcaps AS by .03, not a big deal IMO.

Ichaival

Odysseus' Bow

Full Build

Notes Late game you can replace with and buy a situational item.

Transcendence

Ninja Tabi

Asi

The Executioner

Qin's Sais

Ichaival

Situational Items

Ichaival

Odysseus' Bow

Bloodforge

Titan's Bane

Brawler's Beat Stick

Runeforged Hammer

Silverbranch Bow

Relics

Purification Beads

Aegis Amulet

Cernunnos's Skill Order

Shifter of Seasons

1 X

2 8 10 11 12

Bramble Blast

2 A

1 3 6 7 9

Horn Charge

3 B

4 15 16 18 19

The Wild Hunt

4 Y

5 13 14 17 20

Chapter Title

Thanks for taking the time to view my second guide. Cernunnos is currently my favorite hunter and I thought I would make a build guide. If you have any feedback then please add it to the discussion, I am here to learn.

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Simply Thank you. As soon as I found this build i reconfigured it mote to my style and now i play Cern a LOT. soon will be Diamond mastery.

According to this build and the build calculator I use, does 160 item damage, I'm guessing that's the damage on the 4th AA? If so does more AA DPS as the stacks go up(+36 @ 0, +65 @ 1, +93 @ 2, +121 @ 3).

If the Item damage of is added to AA DPS and @ 3 stacks on , does +21 more AA DPS.

If the item damage of is added to AA DPS then does more AA DPS until gets to 3 stacks.(O Bow advantage per Ichaival stack. +63 @ 0, +35 @ 1, +7 @ 2, -21 @ 3).

also slows enemy attack speed.

I got these ratings with protections set at 70 and health set at 2100. Increasing these numbers I didn't see that big of a difference.

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It should indeed be the 4th basic, however I hope you counted in that 160 will go to 5 person total in the best scenario.

I did not, thanks for bringing that up. So 160 x (# of enemies)? If so up to 800 extra damage. To me that seems like too much damage so I'm not sure if that's right. I'm not sure how I would calculate that into the build calculator.

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What's best case scenario for , 1 person AS slowed by 30% or 3 people AS slowed by 10%? I'm guessing 1 person.

If my math is wrong then none of this matters lol but best case scenario: at 3 stacks does +121 more AA DPS than . does 800 bonus damage total to 5 people -121 = 679 more damage.

So 679 more damage split to 5 people(136 per person) every 4th AA or slow a squishy's AS down by 30% every 3rd AA, 10% per AA.

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Hey Buckeyes, I like you looking to delve into the numbers and concepts.

Regarding the best use of , or in general, an ADC is always looking to deal damage to a single target at once. They're significantly less effective if they're switching targets all the time.

As an FYI, in your O-Bow calcs, I plugged it into DV-8's and my calculator, and added a side calc for total O-Bow damage (taking enemy prots into account as well). The assumption here will be that it hits 5 separate god targets, and that the target already has full Exe stacks. The value I get per target is 119.2 damage, or a total of 5 separate targets at a combined 596 damage. Each regular basic attack also deals 355 damage. Standard DPS outside of the O-Bow passive is 683.74. In 4 hits including the O-Bow passive, damage on a single target is (355*4) + 119 = 1539 damage.

If I use only considered at full stacks in place of O-Bow, each regular basic attack deals 430 damage, and DPS is 805.01. 4 hits will deal (430*4) = 1720 damage. has the edge here on a single target, but does a bit less damage if O-Bow's passive hits all 5 god targets in a teamfight (unlikely).

Both O-Bow and Ichaival are very viable. I personally like Ichaival more...the power will also help any ability damage you deal, and I really like the passive AS slow and value it more than the O-Bow poke damage.

Looking at the build it seems like does a little bit less than 200 overall damage, so I'm guessing the build calculator I use already factors in everything or at least kind of goes with what you came up with. I do prefer the passive more on .

How's the build order? I'm not really sure where to put ATM with the price increase.

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I think the build order is fine. Ich late fits just fine.

One thing I do notice is that isn't listed in your core items, but it magically appears in your final build. In a traditional build, and as you show in your build, in the 3rd spot is normal, but with Cern, since he has a bit of built in lifesteal, you can always delay a bit if you really prefer.

Also as an FYI, with Ich in that full build before Tabi replacement, your AS is 2.43, almost max. With O-Bow, it hits the cap...so basically not much difference in overall AS between the two at that stage.

When you replace Tabi late, you've got options, but I don't think you need more AS.

I think a great fit is probably Runeforged Hammer. 919 total DPS with its passive (meaning just stay in Winter stance). It beats out the DPS of BF, as an FYI.
Another option, if you really want that AS maxed, is Silverbranch Bow, as it narrowly beats out Rune at 927 DPS.
Funny enough, The Crusher beats Silver at 931, and that's before the passive damage is considered.
Last but not least, consider investing into a single crit item. Rage at no stacks gives you 929 DPS. At full stacks, 993 DPS. Keep in mind this is an average based on crit chance. Wind Demon without the passive up gives you an average at Rage's values...while with the passive, gets the same DPS as Rage fully stacked. But that crit chance, of course, is not so reliable at 20%.

FYI these are numbers still based on an enemy with 70 prots, and with being your choice in the 6th spot.

I didn't list as a core item just because I usually only list 3 items as core not including boots. To me starting kind of forces me to go after boots. I'm not sure why since my last build with I didn't get a lifesteal item until last item. I just think is a better buy early than .

I played around with items to replace boots with before updating the guide. Still can't decide which one I prefer. is an odd item, it always seems to outperform items on the calculator but just seems out of place. still seems good, since season 6 I haven't used Silverbranch for it's passive but for it's cost efficiency as an early or mid game item. I haven't tried using it late. I'll try out, I can see where the extra crit damage could secure a kill.

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Would you give preference of O-bow over ichaival on Rama due to his kit?

(394) |

Hmmm...good question. I'm curious on your answer too.

I'd say I'd still prefer Ichaival. The lesser AS is fine cuz he has a good AS steroid. And any power (even unstacked) is better than none when he's ulting. Does that sound right?

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My preference would be O-bow on Rama due to his kit and the cost, but I haven't tested. Besides you could sell boots for ichaival? Also im on console and compared to PC it's a bit harder to hit Rama ults.

Wow I just used this build in arena and got a
21/0/16 game!! Amazing thank you

Glad you had success with the build. I enjoy it in Arena as well.

(143) |

Why do I see Bloodforge 4th item after runeforge and silverbranch? What is going on?

It should be after Exe, maybe I need to hit publish. Would you get it before or after Qins?

(143) |

After qins

6.2 update. Thanks to @DukeSloth on Youtube, I stumbled upon his video of vs and was able to find a good Build Comparison Spreadsheet made by Kero. DukeSloth goes over four builds and compares them.

I did my own comparisons(*not the first to see or use this build) and it seems like a Hybrid build with both and give you the most DPS compared to the other builds.

These are strictly DPS numbers which Kero stated the calculations for total damage = AA DPS + Item + P + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4. It accounts for stats like Power, Pen, Crit, LS, AS, etc. You can also toggle Stacks and Procs for items. So there could be more to a build than just DPS for hunter but then again I'm still learning.(The hybrid build still has good sustain with the 200 extra health and lifesteal)

I can make a spreadsheet comparing the builds and items if someone wants me to provide it.

I took out of the main build and made it a situational item. DukeSloth compared it against . I compared it against Hammer and . With the spreadsheet you can edit the protection of the enemy. At default 48 protection the obviously was outmatched. At 100 protection the items seemed equal in DPS. At around 150+ protections is where I started to see have a good edge over other items. So IMO it's best used when the enemy team has 3 enemies with 150+ protections or 2 with 150+ and they are extremely aggressive to the point where unless you kill them you can't target the squishies.

Sorry for the long post, hopefully some of this made sense. Please give me your feedback so I can make this a better guide.

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I think it's a bit funny you mentioned Duke because he doesn't think highly of this site at all. Bran and I have tried talking to him about changing his opinion and checking the site out again, but it's like talking to a brick wall: he's made up his mind and nothing will change that. He didn't even mention the site in his latest Smite resources video. So, yeah, the guy's very knowledgeable, but he's also a ****.

Didn't know that. Was the first video of his that I watched but tried out the Build Comparison tool because it looked like it had a good reputation.

I don't understand why people don't like sites that help out new people or people who want to try a new God but don't know where to start. Seems like in general there aren't a lot of content creators that want to help grow the community.

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It's because this site has long had a reputation for having terrible builds. It's a consequence of anybody being able to post anything they want regardless of whether or not it actually works. So people like Duke just write off the site because it's full of bad builds and nobody should come here. Then there's that SoloDoubleJackass who routinely comes here, find the worst builds he can, then makes a video about them that not only pokes fun at the build, but also casts the site in a bad light. Unfortunately there isn't much we can do about it because nobody wants to listen.

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Man...I just don't like the concept of optimizing a build strictly on DPS values. I'm not questioning the spreadsheet calculations, but since I haven't seen it, I AM interested in seeing how the build fares vs squishy and tanky gods.

In your Hybrid build, I'm not sure I like seeing in the 4th spot. I'd want to see earlier pen function () before it...but that might just be my preference.

I also - in theory - just don't like the concept of . It's trying to reward you from making your build potentially inefficient, as the passive gives you bonus damage for overcapping AS. In addition, you do NOT overcap AS at all in this build, so you're never getting the benefit of the passive. The stats of Silver are very nice...but I just don't like when an item's full potential is never realized.

FYI, I'm going to trust in DV-8's and my spreadsheet that we created (crossing my fingers that it's accurate). See here: https://www.smitefire.com/smite/forum/theory-crafting/dv-8-amp-branmuffin17s-hunter-dps-calculator-58893

Here's a snapshot of your example build.

Hybrid Build, Squishy Enemy

Standard ADC Crit Build, Squishy Enemy

Also, when we're looking at full builds, default protections should not be 48. That's the level 20 prots for magical. Average physical prots without added items is usually around 68-70, and that's the value that should be used at a low end.

I like the added health from Rune, but in the end, I guess I'm also just a hunter ADC traditionalist. I'd prefer to stick with the old builds.

I was debating on being 4th or 5th, thought the extra lifesteal could help but at that point enemies probably have a good amount of protections so you are right.

To me the default 48 protection was just a constant number to use for all builds, I also compared them around 100 protections and 150 protections. I will try and post some screenshots at 68 protection, 2k HP.

Again this is with this calculator so everything I post could be wrong. That's why I'm asking for help.

Hybrid vs Crit

Hybrid vs Traditional Devo's Build

I agree with you that not using the passive of is a waste. I've compared other builds with that exceeded the AS cap and the Hybrid build still put out more DPS.

Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I appreciate your help.

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Give me a few minutes so I can fix the images.
Edit: Fixed the links, thanks.

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Yeah, what you're linking is a webpage that is displaying a picture...not a picture itself. You can use a site like https://postimages.org/ (in combination with something like the Windows Snipping Tool to get a picture...or just link an actual picture.

Yeah, the hybrid build definitely seems to be stronger, at least for a god that has 0 steroids. I'm guessing it doesn't take O-Bow's proc's into account, but that's okay, as it's fairly minimal overall. It also requires the enemy to be CCd to take full effect.

It also doesn't have the same amount of lifesteal, but dealing more damage will help make up for some of that difference.

There are definitely arguments for the Rune build. It's very interesting to see a different build come into prominence. Still don't like Silver.

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As an FYI, this is actually a pretty badass spreadsheet. Kero did a great job. The link is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKeZS-bYVaLB_NrxY-iWWGMTE5or2MiNthUmeMplwnU/copy

I definitely like trying new things. Not sure if Runeforged or Silverbranch will be a thing in a few weeks but it's nice to have some variety.

Updated the guide again. Another question for you guys. On the Runeforged Hammer Alternative build is it too late to get third or would it be better to get as 3/4 item with being the other item?

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Devs should always be built 1st/2nd and most of the time finished after boots because all it does is provide power and lifesteal, but it has to be fully stacked to be really effective. Bloodforge should be considered as a replacement for dev lategame because its power is higher and because of its passive.

So I'd go: dev, boots, exe, rune, rest of the build swapping dev out for bf late.

Thanks for the feedback, I went ahead and removed that build. I definitely have been liking the Devo, boots, runeforged start. The early penetration is probably more viable. I will try it your way and see how it feels. I agree with getting bf late so I will add that to the notes.

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Anytime. You can also add as a 3rd/4th item after boots because it'll process on all of his skills except for . People will usually try to escape the AoE of both and , but you'll still get some damage on them if you can hit them. It also has good early attack speed and flat pen. Let me know what you think.

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Crusher isn't that great on Cern. Not bad but not as good as you claim, especially as you only reliably proc it on your 2 and ult since the 3 is usually used as an escape.

(81) |

Can be built as a situational item. :P

(143) |

crusher being a situational item? I think not.

I wanted to get your guys opinion on two items not normally used.

I have seen used on some hunters recently and wanted to know if ' applies Hydra's passive when switching seasons and if it's a viable option? His hits pretty hard and Hydra's would do more damage. The CDR is kind of a waste all though 1-1.5 secs on his and could come in handy.

The second item is , it provides three different stats that are useful and the passive could help his 2,3,4. Is it viable?

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I'm thinking hydras might be functional with trans in a specific duel build. Outside of that I probably would never get it. As for the crusher, I think it's fine.

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Don't build hydra's on any hunter, especially cernunnos, im pretty sure it doesen't proc on his 1, leaving only his 2, ult and and his 3 (HIS ESCAPE) to proc it,. Maybe on Ullr if your name is Adapting.

Crusher is allright on him, but you typically see that on transcendence builds while Cernunnos usually go's devourers, though i've seen some runeforged thing going on with hunters.

Thanks for the feedback. With Hydra's I was just seeing if it could be an option so I definitely won't use it. Thoughts on the build guide?

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"Today you are the ones who will be hunted!" ADC

Smite God: Cernunnos

Cernunnos Build

Transcendence Start

Boots

Core

6th Item

Full Build

Situational Items

Relics

Cernunnos's Skill Order

Shifter of Seasons

Bramble Blast

Horn Charge

The Wild Hunt

Chapter Title

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