Hachiman - Demonic Archer S7 | In-Depth Guide

I'm glad my Cupid guide helped you get inspired, keep with your good job here ;)

About your question, see bran's comment.

Don't tell him that, you'll just make his head bigger. :P

Don't worry. He's not a celebrity. He's a regular guy like the rest of us. Just talk to him normally

So I think it can go either way, but it depends on how much the enemy counter-builds you, and how much AS you're going to have in the rest of your build.

Rage provides 40% crit chance at max stacks. That's 20% higher than WD. As Hachiman has a situational steroid (though fairly weak in comparison to gods like Rama/Art, even with 2x standing in the range of the banner), he might not need quite as much AS as some other gods. Keep in mind also, when going into WD, you usually go 3x crit, as WD, DB, and PS. If you so choose, going Rage/DB means you don't have to necessarily itemize into a 3rd crit item. Instead, you can consider other utility, e.g. Asi, Ichaival, Bloodforge, etc.

Now the first thing I see is that you're not declaring your suggestion of Warrior Tabi or Ninja Tabi in the top area. You DO mention your suggestion of Warrior in the item writeup below due to not having many mana issues and because he has a steroid, and I agree. But it would be good to include Warrior as part of the initial core. I agree with Myst that you might just get rid of your "first back" suggestion. You might back when you have enough for a full item, or you may decide it's dangerous and you want to finish your Tabi before finishing Gauntlet...and you may not need to buy those potions, etc.. Not defining your first back allows for better flexibility.

Anyway, back to the concept of Rage. You're going to get incredibly consistent crits if you go Rage to DB. Sure, you don't get the same boost of MS and AS with WD, but you can consider that late if you want in the Rage build.

And although you don't need the mana from Ninja, without AS in Rage/DB, you would probably want Ninja in that build direction. Devo's, Ninja, Rage, Exe, DB as first 5 items. With the higher crit chance in these 5 items, you have an opportunity for higher burst damage if you get the stun from an Iai. Those are the situations I really like Rage...burst damage potential. Combo from Medusa, steroid activation for Art, 1-2 combo from Chern.

Anyway, if you don't like Rage, you don't have to include it, but it can be viable, just partially depends on the enemy comp and how ahead you are in the match. I'd suggest trying it in a few matches and seeing how you like it. If you still prefer WD, stay with it. This is your build. But as an FYI, if considering a roughly equivalent enemy target (70ish protections), Devo's/Ninja/Exe/Rage/DB/WD has higher DPS potential than Devo's/Warrior/Exe/PS/DB/WD...by over 100 DPS. Of course, PS provides some utility Rage does not, so there's always that to consider as well.


If we consider current popularity, crit isn't even it. Hachi is seeing good amount of play, but almost no one is going crit. They're doing the early O-Bow thing in a Qin's-based build. Some people are doing the double-lifesteal thing with Asi. Etc.