Chernobog: The Lord of Darkness (S5, CONQUEST, PATCH 5.14, Still a WIP)

I stupidly reloaded my original comment so im just going to list starts and builds. Also don't get Jotunn's, Soul Eater or brawlers on Chernobog. (if you want anti-heal, swap the Odysseus' bow in a qins build for toxic blade)


Crit Builds: 1. Devourers, Warrior/Ninja, Poisoned Star, Executioner, Deathbringer/Wind Demon (either order).

Or 2. Devourers, Ninja, Rage, Executioner, Deathbringer, Poisoned Star.

Start: Hunter's Blessing, Spiked Gauntlet, and 2 health and multi pots.

(Don't get Trans in a crit build, except, maybe this one: Trans, ninja, Rage, executioner, deathbringer, bloodforge, but it's not a build I recommend, feel free to test it though).


Qin's Builds (main one):

1. Devourers, Warrior, Executioner, Qins, Titans, Odysseus' Bow. (Recommended)


Other possible qins builds (To test):

(Also usually don't get crusher in a build with Devourer's, but again another build to test out: devourers, warrior, executioner, qins, odysseus' bow, crusher)

2. Trans, Warrior, Asi, Executioner, Qins, Titans.

3, Trans, Warrior, executioner, qins, bloodforge, Odysseus' Bow.

4. Trans, Warrior, Crusher, Executioner, Qins, Bloodforge.

5. Trans, Warrior, Asi, Executioner, Qins, Bloodforge.


And lastly, a build that 1 or 2 pros were using in ranked (outside of the main ones) I saw was: Transcendence, Warrior Tabi, The Crusher, Bloodforge, Titan's Bane, Odysseus' Bow. They started with tier 2 trans, 3 health and 3 mana pots I think. It's a build that im not sure about, but again test it out.

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One more thing. I would put points into the ult whenever you can for the damage mitigation increase. But if you prefer to get dash on a lower cooldown thats fine as well.

Alright, let's see. This looks like a good start. First, comments on your existing writeup, then the builds and build notes.

• Your note about seeing him used in mid-lane is due to his burst potential from his abilities. This is sort of a theme when we're talking about the more ability-based hunters overall, like Neith.
  
  
• Pros: For Heart of Cold, what do you mean by the passive makes it easy to stack items? The passive itself stacks...what items are you stacking and how does the passive make that effective?
  
  You say Living Nightmare is one of the best ultimates in the game. I would say it's extremely dependent on the situation. It's global in a sense, but you can either only use it to take yourself out from being a target for a few seconds and then fall straight back down, or you have to fly to an enemy...that could be a bad situation.
  
  Instead, if we're giving 4 pros, I would say instead of Heart of Cold (which is an interesting passive but not something I'd consider a notable pro, that he has great burst potential (via the 1-2 combo) and follow-up basics via the AS steroid. I wouldn't say all of that together, just "great burst potential" probably, but you get what I mean.
  
  And for Living Nightmare, I would say it's a powerful offensive global ult.
  
• On the cons, those look good to me.
  
  
• Build: Start looks good to me. Trans isn't the popular path, but it'll be nice for early ability damage and ability use without mana concerns.
  
  
• Early - Mid Game: I don't necessarily think that Asi needs to be sold late, as the lifesteal boost at low health is pretty powerful, and the AS it provides can be good depending on the rest of your build. That said, yeah, common replacement would be Bloodforge as you have it, and since you go with Poisoned Star, you should have good AS in the rest of the build that it's a good substitute.
  
  Trans + crit isn't a popular thing. Most are going Devo's into crit like normal ADCs, or when they DO go Trans, it's typically with more of an ability function, with items like The Crusher, Soul Eater, and non-crit items.
  
  I'm personally okay with your main build for general use. I feel it'll do just fine overall, but expect to get some questions from Kriega who keeps things on the meta course pretty hardcore.
  
  
• I'm also perfectly fine with the alt build...that's pure meta.
  
  
• On your physical stacking options notes, you say that the huge mana "makes" you stay in lane longer. Rather, I'd say it "allows" you. You could also group the high mana and power together in the same first statement..."mainly used on ability-based hunters because of the huge mana and power boost this item provides. The mana allows you to stay in lane longer, while the power scales very well with Crystallized Curses."
  
  Note that getting Trans over Devo's means, all other things being equal, you'll be behind the enemy's build if they go Devo's, with significantly less sustain in the early game, though you WILL be able to use your abilities to your "cold" heart's content.
  
  
• Soul Eater is honestly a very interesting item right now. Good lifesteal balance between basics and abilities, more CDR so can go very well with Trans, and high end power. This can work in a mid or more ability-focused build. Build type there would be similar to what I present as an experimental build in my Conquest guide...Trans, Ninja, SE, Crusher, Exe, Jotunn's.
  
  
• Your Qin's builds look good to me overall, though I'd say that adding Titan's Bane on top of Exe is situational and better only against very tanky comps. I bet DV-8 will love that main build.
  
  The Crusher is maybe a questionable add in that alt build, though it can work to set up an earlier Qin's with the AS and flat pen. I'd sell it late-game if you did get it, but feel you might be better served with Ichaival there...cheaper, and better boxing, and again, just replace late.

That's all I have so far. Thoughts?

Hey guys, please leave me some constructive criticism, did I explain something wrong? Let me know! are my items wrong? let me know! is my guide bad? let me know!

ps. Kriega1 have mercy on my soul :D