[Skadi In-Depth S4 Build] "Feel the power of a true jotunn!"

i approve

Hey Skapeek!

Overall, I think this is a really good start to your guide. I like the way it's looking now after you made some of your changes! I don't have many complaints, but I do have a few suggestions.

• I know your Item Section --> "The Build" isn't too too big, but separating them out into different Chapters i.e. "Core Items", "Generic Build", and so on, will help readers know where they can quickly get information, especially if you expand more on the items.
  
  
• Right now, you have all of Skadi's abilities typed out. I find this very useful for it allows the reader to see everything upfront without clicking anything; however, it's a bit vague. Assuming I've never played Skadi before, and I stumble upon your guide...what do I do with Piercing Cold? Do I primarily use it for clear, do I save it for an Enemy engagement because of the 15s cooldown? A small blurb on how, and when to use the skill could go a long way in improving the quality and depth of the guide. I know you talk about how to use the abilities in the Playstyle Tab, but not everyone is going to read that tab.
  
  
• Lastly, the "Matchups" Tab is a bit vague as well. You note "mostly any god with a high attack speed build, keep in mind not all of them are in this list". What if I build an Attack Speed Ymir? See what I mean by vague? Maybe be more specific by saying, "Any ADC who build high attack speed is a difficult matchup for Skadi".

Again, I really like the the way this guide has started, but I think with a bit more descriptions and depth, it could really shine! Keep up the good work!

Hi Skapeek

Figure the others have you covered with their extensive comments. Will just add some of my own and keep it simple.

• Your generic build (items 1-5) are spot on with meta, both with items and order. I like that you also give interesting variation for items 3 and on, as options...and where I normally don't suggest Jotunn's Wrath on ADCs, in this case, I can see it working for Skadi in particular, at least situationally. Her cooldowns are horrid.
  
  
• Your explanations and content seem solid.
  
  
• Eventually you may want to go and do a hard edit/review on your guide...you've entered the realm of the Grammar Police, and there are errors everywhere. Not dissing the guide, mind, just mentioning.

Anyway, I think this is a great first start. +1

Hey Skapeek,

I love playing Skadi which is why she is one of my most played gods.

I like your generic build as I literally build the same things on her. My last item is usually The Crusher or Shifter's Shield. The Crusher for the power, pen and attack speed. Shifter's because of the good power and protections when you need it.

I am not the biggest fan of The Executioner just because it doesn't help with tower take down and doesn't work with Kaldr, but it still is a decent pickup for her. I would think it should be built later than at item 3, since not as many protections will be built that early. I think Asi is a solid Item 3, since you will need that lifesteal for sustain. Plus it gives you early cheap penetration and good attack speed.

Bloodforge is okay, but really expensive as you already state. You could make a note of saying sell Asi late game to get Bloodforge, but up to you.

The only big thing I don't necessarily like is your level order, granted it probably depends on how you use Permafrost. For me, I use Permafrost as pure disruption/escape, or on the minion wave. It helps with her minion clear, and it also disrupts the enemy from clearing as well (moves them out of position, maybe makes them miss). The damage from it is okay, but I think you would have better use if you upgraded Rune Of The Hunt 2nd after her Piercing Cold. With the latest patch, Permafrost is nerfed as well. It drops down to 50% scaling instead of 60% and also the movement speed buff from it is different at all levels (not flat 40% anymore) making me want to use it even more as a disruptor and not as a damage output ability.

My suggestion to you would be, if you still want to upgrade Permafrost 2nd is to put a total of 3 points into Rune Of The Hunt first then focus on Permafrost. The reason why is Kaldr gains a life point for each enemy killed at this level, minion or otherwise. You need Kaldr as much as possible for pushing/pressure and with only the 1 point into Kaldr until level 13, you will constantly have to sit and wait while he regains his life by his regeneration only.This puts you at a disadvantage because instead of your consistent 2vs1 you have with Kaldr, you become more passive waiting when you can be and should be more aggressive.

If you put the total of 3 points in first, you can hit the minion wave with Piercing Cold (with it fully upgraded it will take out most of them) then you finish them off with Kaldr so he gains some of his life back. Then you can focus on pushing the enemy god back with Kaldr, he gets hurt, you just rinse and repeat on the minion wave. After level 3 on Rune Of The Hunt, you could refocus on Permafrost since Kaldr only gains an extra ability at level 5. I would like to hear your thoughts on that suggestion.

Overall though, I like your build and your reasoning's behind the item selection. Your relics are good and ones I usually get as well. Your play style sections are fine as a general overview. With her not having an escape, she needs to be wary of ganks of course, but she should be somewhat aggressive still. Communication and wards are the key to helping with the impending ganks. You could also use Permafrost as an initiator as well. Enemy god hits Permafrostyou start to close in and send Kaldr while hitting them with Piercing Cold. At that point they should be escaping, if so, walk over your Permafrost for the boost and chase. If they escape away. Retreat back, hopefully Permafrost is still there so you can get the speed boost again. Not necessarily the safest thing to do, but if you know where everyone is(communication and wards) and know you can secure the kill this way or at the very least severely damage them, then it is definitely worth it.

For the grammar and spelling, the only thing that is sticking out to me as a sore thumb is the misspelling of Phase in the play style section. You have it as fase when it should be phase. Otherwise, I am good with the little mistakes especially if you are a non native English speaker. I give you props for doing this well with our screwed up language.

I'm so happy that the site is receiving so many good guides and nice people lately. Your guide is really good.

However, I think Cern should be considered a real counter because his summer stance procs twice, doesn't it? I'm not sure about his 2 tho. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Hi, Skapeek.

Nice Skadi guide so far. I know you said that this is your first guide, so I thought I would offer some tips that you may not know about, as well as my personal opinion on the guide.

First and foremost, your chapters are good subjects that should be in every guide. Build description, matchups, playstyles, etc.. That can result in a lot of writing, and it might help to give the guide a nicer look for the reader. You may or may not be aware of this Guide Template and this BB Coding Guide for newer members. They helped me a lot when I first joined.

I like the build that you provided, but I think that you could offer more variety. Your starting build variety is great, but then you have no more options until the last item. For example, if you're up against an enemy with strong healing, you might want Brawler's Beat Stick sooner rather than later.

To give the build more variety, I feel that you could add other item options as well. Some of my personal favorites that you may want to consider are:

• Jotunn's Wrath: Gives Skadi the power and penetration that you talked about in your guide, as well as some cooldown reduction to keep her abilities available more often.
  
  
• The Crusher: This also gives power and penetration, as well as attack speed if you want more focus on auto-attacks. Additionally, the passive also provides you with some minor cooldown reduction.
  
  
• The Executioner: Good for auto-attacks and shredding enemy defenses. Good if you have other physical teammates who can take advantage of the passive in group fights.
  
  
• Winged Blade: This is a good, cheap, defensive option for countering slows. Also provides you with some crowd control reduction, movement speed, and health.
  
  
• Magi's Blessing: Anti-crowd control with great health and protections for the cost. A solid defensive option.

As a final critique, I noticed a few spelling and grammar errors, namely in the Playstyle section. It doesn't bother me, but some people around here like to grammar police :p

Overall, good job, good information. I think this guide could be good with a few improvements here and there, as your free time allows. Thanks for making this guide!