Smite Artemis Build Guide: Artemis Crit Build, Good for beginners.

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You're welcome, and you make good points, although I don't fully agree with all of them, that's ok :P Everyone is different for sure.

I think most people will agree that an early is a bad idea... maybe not so much because has a slight built in crit already, so maybe it is viable.

I definitely recommend getting , it is an incredibly OP item right now.

When I was referring to clear, I'm just talking about early game duo lane, later she's fine at it.

One thing I just noticed, you mention that you should buy actives late game... this is not good advice. You don't necessarily want to just blow 1800 gp to buy actives early, but actives are NOT late game purchases most of the time. I see a lot of people make this mistake, 300 gp can save your life (i.e. one level of beads or sprint).

Anyways, good guide overall, well informed. Keep up the good writing! :)

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So, I've got some comments,

If you ever get 87 kills in a game... that's just wrong. I'm baffled as to how nobody surrendered, lol.

The build you're running is virtually powerless until very late in the game. Crit is very good, but it's only good if you actually have damage to back it up which is why you almost always buy it last. Also, three crit items is a bit wasteful on .

I disagree with your claim that has good wave clear. I think her wave clear is fairly poor; without a good support, you'll get backed up to your tower more often than not.

You make a good point about her being mana hungry, but this can easily be solved by picking up a . This item also gives the single most physical power out of any one item in the game.

I also think that picking up devourer's gauntlets that late is a bad plan, you're already running an extremely late game build. Buying those just pushes you even further back. I recommend grabbing an . It has great penetration to burst squishies and gives you the lifesteal you need for a cheap price.

I do like and on , but not until your last two items.

Lastly, I'd like to point out that your build at max strength can only around 750 damage on a crit. This is before any mitigation whatsoever, and you don't have that much penetration either. Your build will be very lackluster against any tank.

It's up to you, but I don't think this build will work unless your opponents just let you farm for most of the game, and even then it will be rough.

(Also, please check your numbers and information, passive only works for 4 seconds if you stop hitting, and does not do anything related to crit.)

I see where all your point come from. so lets start from the top, I got the 87 kills in a hour and half conquest match, the teams skill levels were perfectly balanced so everyone got a ton of kills.

The late game is sorta true but I messed up on the build and I will update after I post this but if you buy boots then Deathbringer you will be able to hold your own especially if you sit back and kill minions and help in team fights then you will become powerful very fast.

Actually her wave clear for me is pretty decent, I only get pushed back to tower if there is more than one god or a overleveled god.

About mid game she is less mana hungry so it's no longer a problem.

The reason I get dev gauntlets so late is because usually I don't need it I can get by with dodging attacks and recalling, but for new players I can agree asi may be a good sub.

I agree golden bow is nice but not really needed until last to add an extra dazel to your attacks and it's good for clearing camps and minions.

I do agree that it is hard to kill tanks but if i find i am having trouble will them i sub titans bane for golden bow, I will update the build with this as well.

Thank you for your opinions and I will take all this into consideration when I update the build.

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The problem with is that you have to land basic attacks before landing your abilities for maximum penetration. You don't have to care about that with , but you loose 20% attack speed.

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Yeah, those are good points, and is a personal favorite, althought is awesome too.

Yay! I'm glad that you liked it, upvote me :P

Also, I do like prism's build, it's similar to mine, but it offers a different flavor. haha

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Yes I know how penetration works, but it's all about balance. And gives 10 penetration (not as much as 15 from , but not far).
If you put you won't put (at least I would not). There is not a lot of items that can provide me with that amount of HP, and that is most of the time the difference between me being dead or alive, that's why I like .

Also, is still valid instead of on most hunter for they have steroids, but does not, so she needs the attack speed from . On pure Ability Based builds it's different though.

I was checking on Ability based builds, and I saw your guides and Prism's one. Very good guides! :)
I usually go with Prism's 4th build (here)

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Hmm... that's true, that is a lot of HP for a hunter, and I often overlook that. Alright, I can respect that then, but I still don't like it :P

but you'd be surprised how much extra damage you can get from extra penetration, not to mention dropping towers. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the penetration formula, but it's (damage without mitigation/protections+100).

So, protections are worth more the less you have. Therefore, the lower you get someone's protections, the more each point of penetration is worth. (not sure if that made sense) 15 penetration on may not be much, but on top of and maybe, it increases damage by a large measure. However, it probably shouldn't be used with ... so yeah.

(Also, off topic, but look at my split pushing build for , you can drop towers in seconds, it's stupid awesome, and if you get a and , it's almost impossible to kill you before you get away.)

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+300 HP dude, +300 HP! :D
Yeah, I like as well (mostly on ), but if I go and it is not needed "that much" (then crits for the last 2 items).

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I can't try it yet, I'm playing on Xbox and we're always one patch late :'(
...But I've watched around 20 games on youtube (incon/dmbrandon/smitepro channels)... and I know how powerful it is! :D

I'm glad my is back in the game! :)
I wonder if you can double stack now, going for first then or if you should go with .

every day all day. That penetration shreds the **** out of squishies. I've never been a huge fan of , but can be good, but it puts you very far behind which you don't want to be with since she's most powerful in the mid game. You can swap out for it later if you really want to, because nabbing those stacks isn't hard late game, just clear a couple lanes and you've got it.

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I can't try it yet, I'm playing on Xbox and we're always one patch late :'(
...But I've watched around 20 games on youtube (incon/dmbrandon/smitepro channels)... and I know how powerful it is! :D

I'm glad my is back in the game! :)
I wonder if you can double stack now, going for first then or if you should go with .

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The thing about items is that they change at each patch, due to nerfs and upgrades... and so does the synergy between them. For instance, as is now pretty good, there is less interest into using or tho those items did not change.
Another example is the new which helps so much the warrior clearing the lane that they can play tankier in early game and thus using the . Not only gods have their ups and downs, items as well! :)

Speaking of bluestone being awesome now, I don't know the last time you looked at my guide, but I'm a big fan of now on . She has three damaging abilities... that's so OP on her, lol, not to mention the 20 physical power, lol.

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Oh wow. Well thank you Vithaliy. Ive barely gotten anything more than 5 games of Conquest. I play mostly Arena and now Joust. I see the same common items being used over and over that i began to not only use them, but also think the other items probably just suck. Is there a post about items or anything here?
Being creative is fun, but not when you dont know any synergy or how what items affect each other.
Like buying before since it takes the physical protection of the armor

As far as this goes, you should buy the hide first in my opinion. It depends what you're going for, but think of it like , buying this item early is a huge waste of potential. You're shooting your early game in the foot essentially.

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A good thing is that picking is always a valid choice! :D

Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Then if it does 1K damage before mitigation, you take around 300 (when "fully" build as a support), considering 20% lifesteal, 60 are back to the hunter who basically takes 140 damages.. before mitigation. Approximately 100 then? Is my math OK? xD

I mostly use with and when using their ultimate, but I will try that with any guardian. Tho, it's committing an active as well... not a lot of choice left! xD

(Yes, is awesome)

You're really close, consider that lifesteal and damage happen at separate instances, so we'll do lifesteal first, because I think it happens this way in game. (not sure on that though, but for this calculation it makes no difference.)

So you get 60 hp back from lifesteal and then are dealt 200 damage before mitigation. The part where you math hiccupped was because you subtracted the lifesteal from the damage before taking the mitigations off of the damage. Most hunters have around 50 magical protections at max level. So 200 damage divided by 1.5 is around 133.3 damage, then factor in the lifesteal, so you're doing about 73.3 damage if they do a 1k crit and you take only 300 damage.

With and you would deal 600 damage before mitigations which would be 400 afterward and no lifesteal. So if they crit you for 1k and you negate it down to 300, they are hurting themselves more than you, and you have more HP. In other words, for 5 seconds, they can't attack you basically.

Keep in mind that this scales, so it doesn't have to be a 1k crit to work.

You mention that you use this on and , ever tried with maxed out ? Lol, so awesome

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The thing about items is that they change at each patch, due to nerfs and upgrades... and so does the synergy between them. For instance, as is now pretty good, there is less interest into using or tho those items did not change.
Another example is the new which helps so much the warrior clearing the lane that they can play tankier in early game and thus using the . Not only gods have their ups and downs, items as well! :)