lets make patch notes: warriors

I think the best nerf for Tyr would be a higher cooldown for switching stances.

While Guan Yu is indeed fairly balanced, I think there should be a more balanced feel to his kit. For example, Taolu Assault and Warrior's Will are more like generic damaging skills, while Cavalry Charge is stupidly strong.

It makes him pathetic at levels 1-4, then absurd at level 5, then back to weak as other power levels catch up, then back to okay as the defense shred on Taolu Assault begins to mean something again.

I think his ultimate needs a nerf. Not in the damage - while strong, it's rather difficult to land, not to mention easily countered by a dash or sprint. The stun is a problem; 1.5 seconds by level 5 from a bruiser is a bit...eh.

For the sake of making his kit feel more consistent, I propose reducing the stun on his ultimate to 1.1/1.2/1.3/1.4/1.5 seconds. But to compensate, the shred on Taolu Assault is changed from 3/4/5/6/7 to 4/5/6/7/8, and Warrior's Will slows from a flat 20% to 22/24/26/28/30%.

To summarize, there will be a slight reduction in stun time at early levels, but there will be slightly more defense shred. The most notable difference will be the upgraded slow, but that is also a minor change.

This will introduce more build paths, and grant utility to all three of his abilities, rather than two.

Is this change absolutely necessary? No. But does it help? In my opinion, yes.

And that's my opinion on Guan Yu.

Buffing taolu assault is not necessary, its powerful enough. If i wish to remove inconsistency in his kit, I would fiddle with cavalry charge. I really liked the old guan yu ulti where he somersaulted thrice but anyways cavalry charge is far more funny. Yes reduce the stun duration but make the horse deal knock up and damage to everygod in his path whether guan yu is riding or not.

BRING. BACK. OLD. GUAN. ULT. That is all.

What was his old ult? I wasn't in the community that long or I just didn't know

Wana enjoy old guan yu! Watch this :p
Awsm Guan...

Like am I the only one that thought old Guan Yu ult was perfect? Fit for a tank, fit for high damage without too going too high in that output. I miss old Guan, I'll never forgive Hi-Rez for taking him away from me. THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH GUAN!

it wasn't because there was anything wrong with him. they did it because of tencent. they wanted the saint of war to be a more damaging while tanky form and since he never had anything to do with magic they made him pysical to fit the lore a bit more.

I vote for what Sub suggested.

Um...I am fiddling with Calvary Charge though.