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Sylvanus the grappling master (Basic Support Guide)

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Smite God: Sylvanus

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Purchase Order

Starter Notes Mana shouldn't be too much of a problem if you place down some seeds ( Verdant Growth) before waves start.

Build Item Guardian's Blessing Guardian's Blessing
Build Item Chalice of Healing Chalice of Healing
Build Item Multi Potion Multi Potion
Build Item Multi Potion Multi Potion
Build Item Multi Potion Multi Potion

Relics

Build Item Magic Shell Magic Shell
Build Item Blink Rune Blink Rune
Build Item Heavenly Wings Heavenly Wings

Shoes Notes Traveler's Shoes I find are just useful for keeping up with your team to provide those protections and heals.

Shoes of Focus Provides a some mana and useful 10% CDR.

Reinforced Shoes Take these if you are struggling to stay alive in lane.

Build Item Reinforced Shoes Reinforced Shoes
Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Traveler's Shoes Traveler's Shoes

Example Slow Build (3 Physical 2 Magical) Notes Gem of Isolation Replaces blessing if you are confident that you can make real use of it and are tanking enough.

Gauntlet of Thebes can be taken before Lotus Crown but personally I think its better to do it in this order as the amount of protections you will provide with your Wisps will make laning alot easier.

Spirit Robe I have found to be very effective against medium to heavy CC comps, it gives you a decent amount of protections and CDR whilst providing that damage mitigation.

Build Item Gem of Isolation Gem of Isolation
Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Lotus Crown Lotus Crown
Build Item Gauntlet of Thebes Gauntlet of Thebes
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Pridwen Pridwen

Spirit Robe/Pridwen Alternatives Notes As pointed out by Gulfwulf, the Spirit Robe is a more support friendly alternative to Genji's Guard. If slightly more magical protection is needed then go for it.

The alternatives are not limited to these but are more commonly picked up.

Build Item Genji's Guard Genji's Guard
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Relic Dagger Relic Dagger

Situational Items Notes Spectral Armor is a must take if against crit heavy, e.g Jing Wei and Mercury.

Build Item Shogun's Kusari Shogun's Kusari
Build Item Oni Hunter's Garb Oni Hunter's Garb
Build Item Bulwark of Hope Bulwark of Hope
Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor
Build Item Contagion Contagion
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Spectral Armor Spectral Armor
Build Item Midgardian Mail Midgardian Mail
Build Item Magi's Cloak Magi's Cloak
Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Stone of Binding Stone of Binding
Build Item Relic Dagger Relic Dagger
Build Item Winged Blade Winged Blade
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff
Build Item Staff of Myrddin Staff of Myrddin

Sylvanus's Skill Order

Verdant Growth

Verdant Growth

1 X
1 13 14 15 16
Wisps

Wisps

2 A
2 4 6 7 9
Nature's Grasp

Nature's Grasp

3 B
3 8 10 11 12
Wrath of Terra

Wrath of Terra

4 Y
5 17 18 19 20
Array ( [extreme] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [god] => Array ( [god_id] => 93 [display_name] => Cerberus [url] => cerberus ) [scoreVal] => 1 [notes] => Cerberus steals 50% of your heals and has a 20% reduction on his passive making your heals a disadvantage, Ghastly Breath also has a protection reduction. You have no escape and Cerberus can jump your grab/root. Personally when I play Cerberus I find I have such an advantage but I can't say I have had Cerberus played against me much. ) [1] => Array ( [god] => Array ( [god_id] => 28 [display_name] => Hercules [url] => hercules ) [scoreVal] => 1 [notes] => A top support right now, very aggressive and is hard for Sylvanus to deal with. ) ) ) 1

Sylvanus' Threats

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Sylvanus' threats

Introduction

Welcome to my guide for Sylvanus, Keeper of the wild


This is my first guide and I plan to keep updating it/adding stuff to it over time, please comment any thoughts/criticism you have. I don't really have the time/effort to make a long formated guide but below are listed some basic tip.

I would add/change certain things in the build but I am finding it harder to navigate/edit current builds.

Combos


Combos


Pull and Root

3
1
2
Harder to hit than Verdant Growth then Nature's Grasp but personally find it better putting the debuff and root after the pull.

Root and Pull

1
3
2
Easier version of Pull and Root.

A Thorny Suprise

Relic
4
2
1
3
This is the main reason you have the blink, you can knock up a group of enemies to completely turn a teamfight while providing protections and heals to your team (while dealing a reasonable amount of damage yourself).

Seed Placements


Please note: this is without any boots, just the starter provided above.

Why can this affect a lane?
Verdant Growth flowers provide 20 MP5 which is the same amount provided by the mana buff, this means if your mid/solo laner is a mana eater (such as Hel) they can avoid having to let minions go under tower and allowing the enemy to have control of a lane.

Can you do all three lanes?
Yes. I have timed it multiple times and you have around 10 seconds to buy your starter items. You want to run straight to the solo lane throw down a seed under tower and start running directly towards the duo lane, whilst doing so also throw down a seed under mid lanes tower and you will make it back to lane before the minions reach the t1 tower.

How much mana will I have left?
After throwing down the seed on your lane, you should have around 150 mana left and you can then go under your flower to recieve some more.

Build Stats

Example Build 1 (lvl 20)



In this build I do build Sylvanus "weak" to allow to make more use of his healing even when there is anti-heal, so pay attention to the enemy team to see if its suitable to follow this build.

If you would like a more "tanky" you can pretty much build generic support with Lotus Crown.

Spectral Armor isn't in the main build but if they are heavy crit this is a must get item now. Heavy crit example is Jing Wei and Mercury.
General
Health: 2810
Mana: 1120
Protections
Physical: 269
Magical: 178
Power
Basic Attack Damage: 100
Power - Magical Item: 175
Verdant Growth (1)
Damage: 301.65
Protections Decrease: 25
Cooldown: 7.2s
Wisps (2)
Damage: 301.65
DPS (5s): 47.5 ( 237.5 )
HPS (5s): 52.5 ( 262.5 )
Protections Increase: 50
Cooldown: 9.6s
Nature's Grasp (3)
Stun: 1s
Cooldown: 8.4s
Wrath of Terra (4)
DPS (5s): 143.75
Overall DMG: 718.75
Cooldown: 54s

Tips and Tricks

Sylvanus Start
Sylvanus you want to follow the seed placement shown above, but I recommend just doing mid-lane unless you instantly buy your items as you may get to the purple buff late. As implied, you want to be doing the purple buff (known as the attack speed buff) and giving it to your carry, unlike the previous season where either could take it.

Once you get to your lane, throw down a seed or two behind your archers as quickly as you can to make sure you can safely get MP5. I personally find this pretty important as you will be eating a lot of mana early.

Be passive-aggressive, commonly I see people on Sylvanus play way too passive early on and losing lane pressure. An easy way to get safe pressure is to get your Wisps at level two and push up to use it aggressively against the enemy carry. This can help scare back the enemy duo, bringing in space for your carry to push the wave easier. You should feel safe doing this as you only need to get in range with your Wisps to then back off and heal.

Sometimes the enemy may be already pushed back, you have to make sure you are not over-extending and only actually being aggressive when need be. I personally pay attention to the wave more than how the carries are positioning, as your carry could be playing seemingly scared although having complete wave control.

General Abilities
Your pull ( Nature's Grasp) can go through walls, which means warding becomes even more important.

Don't forget your Verdant Growth provides MP5!

Whilst Nature's Grasp into Verdant Growth is the better combo, doing Verdant Growth into Nature's Grasp is much easier and safer.

Team fights
Don't be afraid to engage, if you need to, use your healing Wisps just before you blink so you heal while you ult. Doing this while having the Pridwen shield up will mean you have a much higher chance of staying alive.

While you don't need to be afraid to engage, you also don't need to be afraid to sit back in the team fights and keep your carries alive. Keeping your main damage dealers alive is important and Wisps are not the only way to do it, pulling enemies away from the backline can completely change a team fight. For example, Mercury may blink or ult onto your backline, he uses his dash+spin ( Special Delivery) and as this happens you pull him off performing a CC chain allowing your team to wipe him off the face of the earth.

Updates

15/09/2019 - Added tips and tricks.
16/09/2019 - Added proper introduction.
20/09/2019 - Updated cooldown times to recent patch (around 1-1.5s off ability 2+3)
16/11/2019 - Started adding threats and changed notes slightly.
11/12/2019 - Removed rod for iso, as in reality rod kind of sucks in 90% of comps/builds, if you have a tanky solo isolation can help team fights with your Wisps.
14/12/2019 - Added item and extra note on build.
11/02/2020 - Updated for new season
1/03/2020 - Forgot multi pots and added more detail to tips+tricks.

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Branmuffin17 (311) | February 18, 2020 1:42am
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GreedyRepresentative | March 1, 2020 12:58pm
Oh totally forgot changing that, thx for the reminder.
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Devampi (95) | February 18, 2020 2:23am
you can still build them right? only using them both at the same time cancels each other out?
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Branmuffin17 (311) | February 18, 2020 3:36am
Yeah, you can use them as long as it's not at the same time, but the whole OP function of this combo was to use them at the same time for massive early game sustain. Now you can't stack them, there's significantly less reason to build both, and it's just not suggested.
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Kriega1 (104) | February 18, 2020 2:30am
Yes, but buying them now is just stupidity. Get multi pots instead of health pots.
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Kriega1 (104) | February 18, 2020 2:18am
Yeah you go Chalice and Multi pots now.
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kell90 | February 15, 2020 8:33pm
He's so OP in Joust. Loving this build guide. Sylvanus is my new favourite god.
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Gulfwulf (68) | February 12, 2020 8:56pm
Hello, Greedy.

As the judge for the guardian category of the contest I can say that you have a good start, but I'm looking for more detailed guides with more information. Example are the two winners of last year's contest, Supportable's Vamana guide and Vini's Nike guide. Other examples are Bran's Bacchus guide and my Kuzenbo one. Now you don't have to put in quite that much detail, but I'm looking for guides that assume I may not know everything there is to know about a god and, thusly, goes into detail as to what their skills do, how to use their combos, and explanations as to why certain items are picked over other ones. I do like that you included notes, but I think those should be expanded upon in the guide itself. I have no problem giving you my vote, but I'm not quite sure this is $50 worth of effort just yet. The guardian entries have been rather sparse, so don't feel as if you have to put in a whole day's worth, just give me some more information to chew on and think about while I'm reading your guide. :) Good luck.
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Kriega1 (104) | December 11, 2019 12:49pm
Add Estaff as an option.
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NobleNeal | September 19, 2019 12:37pm
Is there a reason you don't level the ultimate?
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GreedyRepresentative | September 20, 2019 11:27am
The only real use for leveling the ultimate is for extra damage, since it doesn't lower the cooldown or anything else meaning its much more useful to level the other abilities which lower the cooldowns or provide more healing etc.
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Kriega1 (104) | September 13, 2019 12:14pm
You should consider Pridwen as your main cdr item instead of Breastplate of Valor as well as add more situational items like Relic Dagger, Pestilence, etc...
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GreedyRepresentative | September 13, 2019 12:21pm
Is Pridwen still worth getting? I haven't been getting it as I thought it wasn't worth getting now.

edit - Actually just thought for a solid minute and realized I should probably start picking it up since it will work well with the blink.
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Gulfwulf (68) | September 13, 2019 5:07pm
Supports generally don't get "selfish" items like breastplate and genjis; they usually either get aura items like Sovereignty or items like Relic Dagger that have an indirect benefit for their team. Another example of the latter is Spirit Robe because of its CDR, CCR, and passive. I'd trade magi's cloak for it since its passive is on a shorter cooldown.
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Kriega1 (104) | September 13, 2019 1:15pm
Pridwen is still good for supports, for solo laners it’s less of a priority item (though can still be picked up late in the build). Otherwise, maybe ask EmilZy or Polarbearmike on their twitch/YouTube or check smiteprobuilds to see if it’s still being built.
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