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Gleaming Ear Cuffs it's a tier 2 item with great stats for the early game, but it's even better if you back quickly to buy the tier 3
Griffonwing Earrings
Leather Cowl it's another good option for a starter into
Devourer's Gauntlet without wasting too much gold, but loosing some early pressure with
Griffonwing Earrings on the process
Gleaming Ear Cuffs
Healing Potion
Multi Potion
Wing Shard
Purification Beads
The only negative about this build it's the lack of attack speed with
Cernunnos, but there's a way of not losing too much of it, replacing
Rage with
Bladed Boomerang
Griffonwing Earrings
Devourer's Gauntlet
Qin's Sais
Rage
Envenomed Deathbringer
Dominance
Greater Purification Beads
Greater Aegis Amulet
Can replace
Griffonwing Earrings with
Titan's Bane if the game extends too much
Griffonwing Earrings
Devourer's Gauntlet
Dominance
Qin's Sais
The Ferocious Executioner
Odysseus' Bow
Greater Purification Beads
Greater Aegis Amulet
Replace
Griffonwing Earrings with
Fail-Not or
Deathbringer
Right now tanks can counter crits really easily with
Spectral Armor so I would recommend to keep doing an anti tank build with
Titan's Bane and
Odysseus' Bow, but if you really want going crits, this build should help on balance crits, %pen and attack speed
Griffonwing Earrings
Devourer's Gauntlet
The Ferocious Executioner
Qin's Sais
Demon Blade
Dominance
Greater Purification Beads
Greater Aegis Amulet
Temporal Beads
Aegis of Judgement
Leather Cowl Hunter's starters are not great but this one in particular it's really helpful on early instances of the game providing some extra life steal and 20% attack speed with the passive that can be activated easily on joust, can be upgraded
Asi it's a nice substitute of
Devourer's Gauntlet but it lowers your output damage a bit without those +15 of flat pen, even so the extra 20% of attack speed it's really good
Bladed Boomerang Not the best but nice alternative for
Rage if you're struggling with attack speed and %crit chance
Titan's Bane Strong antitank item, only recommended as last item if you are struggling a lot with them
Leather Cowl
Asi
Bladed Boomerang
Titan's Bane
Max your 2
Bramble Blast first and then your 3
Horn Charge should be prio, but you can max your 1
Shifter of Seasons if you like having extra life steal and damage on your basics
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This season I've mostly been playing Joust due to mostly being on when 2 of my friends are playing. That's pretty unfortunate, because I honestly hate this older map and wish they'd go back to the newest one.
Anyway, have had a lot more recent experience with Joust, especially with the change dropping the availability of starter items. Would like to toss in my thoughts.
- Asi just doesn't feel that great.
- Devo's is probably my pref. While the stacking takes a bit, the flat pen you get feels somewhat impactful.
- No lifesteal can allow you to go into Exe / Qin's earlier, which isn't a bad thing, and with Cern's Spring, you can get a bit of lifesteal. I feel that's an option.
I'm in a similar situation with Joust right now, I'm not a real fan of this map, wish they make a new one or just remake the older one (s1) cuz I really miss it :c
With T2 Griffon I only stay 1 or 2 waves until I get enough gold to buy T3, the pot doesn't really matter, but it's right that a multi pot should be better if you trade too much
About the builds, I'm also tried
On crits build I personally wouldn't recommend going
Also, the reason I choose
On crit vs tanks build I choose
For me
Typically I like > 50% crit chance but I also really like a mid-game Qin's so in the end, I'm mostly okay just going 50%. I'll try Rage out and see how it feels, but again, I typically like higher AS.
I've been playing mostly w/ 2 others, but here's an example where I was only w/ DV-8 and a solo queuer and I went Cern...my MMR at this point had dropped down below 1600 at this point (has been as high as > 2300) but I was still technically in Diamond. Since the 2 I play with are more East coast I usually play there, but this was one of those where I was able to play West (where my ping is like 30, which is way nicer than 90 and noticeable for me when I'm ADC). Went with the build direction I was talking about, and it does feel generally good though the spot between getting Exe and getting DB (with Demon in between) does feel a bit like a lull in DPS. Maybe your path feels smoother, again I will try it.
More often than not though, we're on East and I end up being tank. But I do like when I'm able to ADC. I also do like being aggressive with Cern when possible.
Since Shurikens were removed from the game and replaced by this two ****ty items (
Cernunnos: Griffon -> Devo -> Exe -> Rage -> DB -> Qin's. Would have possibly replaced Griffon late with Dom, was facing a 2 tank team (Cerb / Mulan). Rage in the 4th spot here felt pretty good, partially because my Geb got Shogun's 3rd, which helped the AS feel.
Hachiman: Griffon -> Devo -> Exe -> Rage -> DB -> building into
Qin's Sais but didn't complete. Also against a double tank comp (Ravana / Horus). No Shogun's assist from tank this time, but Hachi does have his own light steroid, so it still felt pretty good.
Medusa: Devo -> Exe -> Rage -> DB -> Qin's -> building into
Dominance but didn't complete. 1 tank enemy team. I didn't go Griffon here because I feel Medusa gets less out of it and would appreciate the earlier Dom stacking. I should have gone Dom instead of Exe in that 2nd spot, because I was running out of mana a LOT. Griffon I guess could have worked there also for the MP5, but I just don't like getting it often on gods that don't specifically utilize it on special abilities (Ishtar 1-3, Hachi 1, Xbal ult + mp5 support for his 1, etc.). Enemy team had a weird comp IMO though...Kuzen, Ullr, and Thana. Without more than 1 AS item in the first 4 items, it def felt slow outside of when her Viper Shot was active. Wonder if Dom 2nd and Exe 4th might have felt a bit better in that regard. Or perhaps against 1 tank, I still get Griffon first and then build as I did.
All in all though, I did like Rage a lot. I'll probably keep it in my standard crit build for now, in place of Demon.Double tanks are really annoying, they can counter crit builds and cut you down in early game, that's why people started buying full attack speed/ pen items as fast as posible
For
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Same build can be done replacing griffon with devo's or even transcendence and
No devo's it's a common build right now on adc's with attack speed buff like
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Some people do Asi after Griffon and then do Qin's, Dom and Exe, leaving odysseus as last item, depending on what character you're playing... I mostly do "Griffon -> Qin's -> Exe -> Odysseus - Dom - Titan's" against tanks with almost any adc, but if I have to choose, I would go crits always for fun
For that Medusa game, yeah, I've got a lot of different options. I definitely struggle some with preferred build pathing here. None feel quite optimal, but honestly that's probably for the best. People always complain about ADCs being OP, and they still can be, but I think they're in a good spot.
I don't like that full AS build for Medusa, that's close to maxing out AS on its own if it doesn't actually max out, and then Viper's steroid isn't put to use. I would consider replacing Griffon late with Silverbranch, perhaps. Interesting thing, if you activate Viper but don't use all shots, the Silver passive power boost still applies, which could give you a nice boost on her other abilities.
I'd maybe adjust that build order, as Griffon, Dom, Qin's, Asi, O-Bow, Silver, replace Griffon w/ Exe or something. Having Qin's earlier is nice for the DPS.