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A Real Hades Guide for Conquest

September 9, 2018 by Mesericordes
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Hades in the Middle

Smite God: Hades

Item Purchase Order

?You NEED to have blink as your first relic in Conq. I will explain later.

Build Item Uncommon Staff
Build Item Mage's Blessing
Build Item Healing Potion
Build Item Mana Potion
Build Item Mana Potion
Build Item Blink Rune

First Three Items
?With the Bancroft cost increase, Asclaps is only 100g more and it has stats that help Hades far more. In my experience, I prefer it far more. Bancroft is a good option still, but I prefer Asclaps over it. If you want to be more offensive, you can get Ethereal Staff

Build Item Shoes of Focus Build Item Warlock's Staff Build Item Rod of Asclepius Build Item Ethereal Staff

Later Offensive Items
?Pen Items (Pick 1)

Build Item Spear of Desolation Build Item Spear of the Magus Build Item Void Stone Build Item Divine Ruin

Defensive Items
?You need at least two protection items. I recommend either Spirit Robe and Oni Hunter for Mitigation in team fights, or Urchin and Mantle of Discord for more overall protection from poke damage

Build Item Hide of the Urchin Build Item Spirit Robe Build Item Mantle of Discord Build Item Oni Hunter's Garb Build Item Shield of Thorns Build Item Purification Beads

God Skill Order

Death From Below

Death From Below 2 8 11 12 14 key bind

Shroud of Darkness

Shroud of Darkness 4 15 16 18 19 key bind

Devour Souls

Devour Souls 1 3 6 7 9 key bind

Pillar of Agony

Pillar of Agony 5 10 13 17 20 key bind

Hades is not so good...

Greeting Everyone! Welcome to my Hades Guide!

I would like to state a couple of things before we get started

    Hades is notoriously one of the worst gods overall
    He seems dysfuntional
    All the skill of playing Hades is deciding when to attack, and when to ult

With that out of the way, Hades can absolutely stomp people who try to dive him and get punished.

Starter Items

A couple of facts about Hades

    He has the 2nd base health among mages, only being beat out by Zhong
    He has the highest base protections among Mages
    He has the highest base damage with minion waves (75 + 120 if you position minions right)

This being said, Hades does well with a bit of extra tankiness early in the game. You only need 1 hp pot because his sustain is plentiful.
BLINK IS NOT OPTIONAL! Hades is absolutely awful from behind, and he has low base movement speed. You need blink because after you attack the speed buff, using blink is the only way you reach the wave in time to get exp from all the creeps and hit level 2. If you miss even 1 creep, you will not hit level 2. This seems small, but is deadly to you in reality.

Item Building

Items on Hades are really not up for a whole lot of toss up. It boils down to this:

    Shoes of Focus
    Warlock Staff
    Asclaps for a more divey teams, or ethereal staff for if you want to be aggressive
    1 pen item
    2 defensive items, depending on their team comp

As for Bancrofts Talon, with its current cost nerf as of 5.16, I prefer to use Asclaps for a number of reasons. The movement speed helps Hades' slowness, the health pairs well with the protections you'll build, and it only has 10 less power. That being said, Bancroft is a good item on Hades. It helps you to enjoy a very aggressive playstyle and enjoy Hades' supremacy in the mid game. Even so, I would recommend selling it later in the game for Asclaps, as its stats and passive simply do more for you in the late game when Hades is far less relevant

Pen Items

The only pen item Hades should not build is Obsidian Shard. Not only is it bad, but it's not Hades' job to kill tanks. He is an anti-dive and counter initiator. Otherwise, consider:

Spear of Desolation gives the least pen but the most power and cdr. Not my favorite but if you want a bit more burst, you can use it.

Spear of the Magus allows you to do true damage in your ult to anyone not building protections (remember, his ult shreds 10 to 30 protections). Hades ult does 840 + 240%. That's a lot. It's only trumped in scaling by Ganesha's and Anubis' ults. Potent for a dive heavy enemy team.

Void Stone gives hp and protections, so it helps you stay alive better and has 20 base shred, so utilize it if the enemy has 3 or more magical gods and you want the extra protection, or if your team has 3 or more magical gods (Ao Kuang assassin, for example) so your team can benefit from the shred.

Divine Ruin should be used if they have healing. That's it. Otherwise, use something else.

Defensive Items

Hades has two sets of Defensive Items he ought to build in my opinion:

Spirit Robe and Oni Hunter gives you a solid amount of protections, CCD (a very important stat on all gods, but Hades especially), CDR, but most importantly, damage mitigation. The protections on his ult are nigh on useless late game, so having an extra 24% mitigation when hit with hard cc or 9% when you ult is very good for survival. Use this for more general cases.

The other pairing is Urchin and Discord. They provide more protections and health overall, and Urchin's shield help protect you from those who would dive you. If they have a dive heavy comp, I would use these items. Obviously, you should build Urchin first because it needs stacks and is cheaper.

Death From Below

1: Death From Below

Death From Below is a leap. It can be targeted by Awilix. Keep that in mind

It has a long wind up, and immunity frames (when nothing can hit you) only apply when you are underground and moving!

It does 70 to 270 base damage plus 60% scaling

It does not slow anyone. It is useless. Who cares. Hades has 2 other forms of strong lockdown, so why does he need a slow? Because Hi-Rez won't admit power creep is real and ignores Hades because they hate him and me.

Shroud of Darkness

2: Shroud of Darkness

It is Hades' main "cc". It lasts 1 to 2 seconds, and either silences (no abilities) or will fear (a stun where they move slowly in the direction they were facing)

It applies in a fairly wide cone, and it is useless until it gets ranked up, except for blighting the minion wave . A 2 second fear late game is usually enough in a team fight to burn someone's beads or to gang up and kill them. It really depends on how attentive your team it.

It's not very good. Use it to engage people and keep them still for moment. If you need to use it defensibly, your positioning needs work. You should never have to use it for defense. It's not designed for it. Worst case scenario, try to fire a basic first so as to fear them, and can't chase as quickly.

Additionaly, because it is a silence, it can cancel channels. Anubis, Nike, Artio, you get the idea. Also, timed right, you can silence people out of their dashes, which removes their escape ability, which consequently leaves them open for your ult.

Devour Souls

3: Devour Souls

Hades' bread and butter. His damage. His healing. What makes him B rather than C tier.

This allows you to pressure people and do tons of damage in the laning phase.
If someone is stupid enough to stand in the minion wave when playing against you, punish them. Severely.
It does far more damage when multiple targets are grouped up together. It also heals you for every blighted target, and with asclaps and a full build it heals for about 120, or 101 per target with Ethereal at level 20.

As of itself, the base damage is extremely low for his primary damaging ability, but with a blighted target (never use it on an unblighted target unless its a guaranteed kill) it does 260 + 95% to gods and another 24 + 25% per other blighted target within 20 units.

This is always leveled first, no exceptions.

Pillar of Some Small Amount of Pain

4: Pillar of Agony

Pillar of Agony is one of the worst ult to god matchups in the game. Hades base kit is burst bruiser. His ult makes him the center of attention for 4 seconds.

It does 45 to 105 damage per tick (8 ticks) + 30% scaling (240% scaling). It pulls everyone in 30 units to you, gives you 60 to 100 protections, and shreds 10-30 protections off of each enemy if they are blighted (this increases the damage of it massively).

If you use this ult to leap in and initiate against a team, you're using it wrong. You can use it to catch someone who's escaping and beads are down, or if you know you can secure a kill during the laning phase. This is a counter initiation ability ! Hades needs to be tanky, so when an assassin or warrior dives your ADC or assassin, you can effectively lock them down and kill them. That is the proper use of Pillar of Agony.

Another use is to use it to zone people off. Use it in the middle of a fight and make the enemy team have to walk around you to reach the fight, giving your team a numbers advantage.


Combo 1: Basic Laneing Phase Combo
1 + basic aa + 2 + basic aa + 3 + basic aa
Attempt to attack them when they are near the archers, so it draws the melee minions to you. When you fear and detonate them, they will be hit by the base damage and 7 detionation, greatly increasing your damage. Late game, use this sparingly, as it is risky. You cannot 100 to 0 someone, and it often puts you out of position. Make sure you have someone nearby to help you clean up and finish someone off.

Combo 2: Basic Bully Combo
Walk + basic aa + 2 + basic aa + 3 + leap away
Walk up while juking any attacks, basic attack to blight them, then fear them, basic attack, use your 3 to do some damage, and use your 1 to leap away (back into a safe position

Combo 3: Counter Initiate
2 + 4 (early cancel?) + 3
This combo should be used more towards the middle late game in team fights when someone dives you or they initiate the fight. This blights and silences them, then keeps them on you for 4 seconds. If you have the opportunity, cancel it early if 2 or more enemies would be killed by using your 3. This ensures max efficiency for your team and obviously, better to kill people faster.

Please Comment and Give me Feedback!

I hope you enjoyed it

I have about 250 hours in Hades, with him at 6700 worshipers. This is my first guide, so I understand it's sloppy in execution and format. But what matters the most is the information.

I live off of feedback and comments, so please post regards, suggestions, or if you feel like I was wrong on one part or another, comment and I'll get back to you

And if you build Book of Thoth or double stack, I will find you, and I will kill you.

He's not a burst mage. Don't play him like one.

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