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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Reverend Belial » December 13, 2014 12:26am | Report
So they calculated the number of gems the Thanatos skin costs, but how much money is that? Because I'm pretty sure that's like an $80 skin
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » December 13, 2014 10:46pm | Report
nurisea wrote:

Women do play video games. I think this is more reflective of HiRez's artistic capabilities. That, and Awilix is Mayan and somehow still white. I mean, come on? Chaac is dark, indigenous - he fits the profile of a Mayan God. The least you can do when designing a God based off of mythology real, actual people worshiped is make sure they're aesthetically correct. But that's an entirely different problem I could talk for hours about.

I just want to see a Goddess where sex appeal isn't even a thought in her design. Even Arachne, a literal spider, has a highly sexualized torso. You can argue Scylla, but I mean... she's a little girl. I'm talking grown woman Goddess that doesn't give a **** if you think she's attractive. And some people do pull that whole 'but in mythology most gods were naked anyways!' but if we used that example, we better start stripping the Gods too.

I'm not a fan of assassins so I'm not going to speak on her abilities. I'll withhold my judgment on that.

I'm a woman. I love playing Smite. I just wish they'd look a little bit closer at their designs of goddesses.

My point is - if HiRez can't design a Goddess without the no clothes make titty wobble physics, honestly can't, I'm side eyeing them hard.

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Pudding, it's degrees of sexualization, and there's a difference between making Fiora look sexy, and putting her in lingerie. Also, she actually has a personality beyond "FASHION CLOTHES ACCESSORIES" and, like I should have mentioned earlier, sex is not bad.

It's perfectly alright for a woman to look sexy if she wants to. Or beautiful, or graceful, or trollish. The problem is when this becomes so oversaturated to the point where every single woman in Smite apparently wants to look sexy AND dress inappropriately. Every single one.

Like Nex said, there's a difference between wanting to look attractive and wanting to bed someone, and 90% of Smite's goddesses look like they want to bed someone. (Seriously, how can anyone call Fiora "pornified?")


She looks neat, the anti leap ultimate I pretty brilliant since Smite is such an "Escape or Die" MOBA. She seems to be an assassin that excels at sticking to her target, not allowing them an opportunity to escape. Which is a welcome change of peace since almost all other assassins rely on bursting there enemy down before they can even get the opportunity to run away. Looking forward to her release.

On the topic of her lack of cloths, I really wish that people would stop using the "But goddesses have always been sexualized, because goddesses are suppose to be beautiful!" argument.

First of that's kind of like saying "Well movies sexualize woman all the time, so video games should do that to!"

Secondly: I feel a lot of people don't know the difference between overly sexualizing a character and making a character look beautiful.

Look at Maya in Killer Instinct 2 and the latest Killer Instinct.
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In the picture to the left she is not even wearing cloths, she just has a couple of patches of jaguar skin to cover her delicates. Not to mention boobs are almost has big as her head. She was clearly designed this way to satisfy men's hormones.

In the right one, she is weary something that a real person would actually wear in combat, while still showing some cleavage and a lot of leg. She isn't super busty, but she is defiantly not flat chested. She looks like she is ready to fight anybody who stands I her way and she still looks absolutely gorgeous, because she is a beautiful woman, no amount of cloths can hide that.

What I'm trying to say is that: when somebody says that a character is overly sexualized, they don't mean "make them uglier" or "cover their body" they mean make them believable, make them wear cloth that somebody would actually wear in a fight and don't make them super busty just cuz its hot.

Like Sub said:

This. So much this. And like nurisea said, why is she white?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Reverend Belial » December 13, 2014 10:55pm | Report
She's not white, she's just pale. I personally know quite a few Mesoamericans who are that shade or lighter, and are not of mixed descent. I also kinda disagree with the clothing portion, what with how they're gods and can basically do whatever they please so skimpy/impractical clothing would likely be a non-issue for them if there were to "realistically" be a battle among the gods.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » December 13, 2014 11:04pm | Report
Can we just say its a marketing medium to sexualize female characters especially since you get to see them up close and not in a birds eye view like in other mobas
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » December 13, 2014 11:11pm | Report

She's not white, she's just pale. I personally know quite a few Mesoamericans who are that shade or lighter, and are not of mixed descent. I also kinda disagree with the clothing portion, what with how they're gods and can basically do whatever they please so skimpy/impractical clothing would likely be a non-issue for them if there were to "realistically" be a battle among the gods.

Logic.

Let's assume that gods can make themselves invulnerable without armor. By this line of logic, gods must also be able to penetrate this ability with their own weapons, since gods hurt each other in Smite.

*rolls eyes* And therefore, we arrive back to gods needing armor. Since their "passive protections" clearly don't do much to defend themselves.

Also, you ignore stuff like Athena/Zeus's legendary shield (Aegis), Hades' legendary helmet (Helmet of Darkness), Herc's magical lion skin (The Hide of the Nemean Lion). Or the other dozens of times in mythology where wearing armor saves someone's life, even for gods. Or Achilles' legendary armor that let him become invincible to even gods' weapons. Or Ancile, Mars' legendary shield. Or Svalinn, the Norse shield that blocks the sun's rays from frying the earth. Etc etc.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Reverend Belial » December 14, 2014 12:46am | Report
Well first Hercules is a demigod, not a god so of course he would need armor and Achilles' invulnerability came from a ritual done after his birth, not from armor. His vulnerability was the spot on his ankle that he was held by during the ritual, hence the term "Achilles Heel". And Hades' helmet isn't for protection, it's enchanted to make the wearer invisible (thus I argue that he should absolutely not have been made a guardian). And while yes, legendary armor or weapons have saved even divine lives, not every god requires the use of them or wouldn't be suited for them. The Mayan gods for example would likely be hindered by something unwieldly like armor, and most of them are certainly not portrayed using it. If Shinto gods get added then they shouldn't use shields, something completely unheard of in feudal Japan (as far as I'm aware). I'm not saying that none of them should be clothed and that every single goddess should be a porn star, I'm just saying that they should be designed in a way that would make sense based on a mythological standpoint (or better yet, if they would stop trying to be "creative" and actually make them what they're supposed to be). And here's another way to look at it: No matter how skimpy their clothing is, it's probably more coverage than their traditional depiction gives them.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » December 14, 2014 1:05am | Report
designed from a mythological stand point. then they should look at what the people who created the mythos thought was for example "beauty".

trust me, gods including the original depictions of aphrodite were NOT naked 24/7. its important to note that the greek and roman culture's more often did not have a problem with nudity and didn't distract them, they even held the original olimpics in nude where they had to wrestle... they saw the body as something that should be celebrated, with body i dont mean ***, ****, TITS, VAGINA... i mean the entire body from face to toes, they saw beauty in the face, arms, legs, shaping, muscle's.

they never depicted their woman with big tits or their man with huge *******s, those were always small.

if athena went into battle she would be wearning armor that looks like the traditional phalanks troops armor. entire torso protected.

if freya had to fight the would not leave her legs, arms and lower torso completely open, esspecially her lower torso because of the organs their, heck she would probebly wear a helmet as well.

THEY ARE GOING AT WAR WHERE IMMORTALS CAN DIE! that is one of the very few parts of smites lore that was actually made clear and brought into existence.

even if the death is temporary you'd think people as proud as gods would NOT like to die since they should be immortal. we dont know how much they know about the battle of smite. in the mythos of smite their is no defense for why they should look like actors from a bad porno.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » December 14, 2014 1:07am | Report
IDK why we're still trying to argue this. There have been threads on the sexualization of gods SEVERAL times and it has NEVER reached a consensus, nor progressed happily. Like I don't even care from a mod standpoint I just don't even understand why we're still trying to talk about the subject xD
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » December 14, 2014 2:50am | Report

Well first Hercules is a demigod, not a god so of course he would need armor and Achilles' invulnerability came from a ritual done after his birth, not from armor. His vulnerability was the spot on his ankle that he was held by during the ritual, hence the term "Achilles Heel". And Hades' helmet isn't for protection, it's enchanted to make the wearer invisible (thus I argue that he should absolutely not have been made a guardian). And while yes, legendary armor or weapons have saved even divine lives, not every god requires the use of them or wouldn't be suited for them. The Mayan gods for example would likely be hindered by something unwieldly like armor, and most of them are certainly not portrayed using it. If Shinto gods get added then they shouldn't use shields, something completely unheard of in feudal Japan (as far as I'm aware). I'm not saying that none of them should be clothed and that every single goddess should be a porn star, I'm just saying that they should be designed in a way that would make sense based on a mythological standpoint (or better yet, if they would stop trying to be "creative" and actually make them what they're supposed to be). And here's another way to look at it: No matter how skimpy their clothing is, it's probably more coverage than their traditional depiction gives them.

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I already destroyed the lore defense, earlier. And don't condescend to me about Achilles. The armor was created by Hephaestus, and it's shown as being insanely valuable to the point where Ajax and Oddesomething have a fight over it.

"Not every god is suited" Yeah, not every god is suited to wear full plate armor. But there's a huge difference between not wearing armor, and wearing lingerie to combat. Or something else completely impractical, like Athena's "breast plates."

The point is, armor and other practical things IS a thing. Which means that this statement:

skimpy/impractical clothing would likely be a non-issue for them if there were to "realistically" be a battle among the gods.


Is false, because protection DOES make a difference, which means it IS an issue, and that anyone who DOESN'T get any protection better have a damn good reason not to. Looking attractive to teenage gamers is not a good reason.

And if you're going to mention how Chaac and such aren't dressed much, either, their dress actually resembles what their culture's warriors looked like.



I dare you to find a female warrior from a pantheon that dressed like Athena/Serqet/Awilix/Freya. I dare you.

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Subzero008 wrote:

I dare you to find a female warrior from a pantheon that dressed like Athena/Serqet/Awilix/Freya. I dare you.





I suppose she counts. (It's Joan of Arc. Hey, she's a saint. And we can consider Catholicism and it's Saints as a pantheon of their own.)

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