Fatalis for Dummies? (Freya)

Valid points. The majority of the time the name of the game is who can burst who quicker. I'll remove Fatalis from my build and see where I can improve on my damage output. Shouldn't be too hard with the amount of strong magical/magic pen items available.

Well why compare Fatalis with Chronos which is way more expensive why not compare it to something with similar price to see what is more worth it?
With Fatalis I was doing 49 damage (from my basic attacks) while I was at level 8 with the attack speed of 1.43 and fatalis costs 2140 gold.
With Executioner I was doing 79 (from basic attacks) at lvl 8 with the attack speed of 1.29 and
Executioner costs 2200.

I picked these two items because they are similar in price and in that they both give you attack speed so the question is which one do you think is better now that I've given you real numbers from game?

In my opinion fatalis is just not worth not while there are items that are almost the same price and yet so much better for both mages and physical gods, but I very well know the allure that fatalis speed has as up until I met Asmoday I was building fatalis on every AD god but then I tried taking out fatalis for something else the results were obvious.


I know that my English is terrible and I sometimes fail to express myself properly if I have failed to do so feel free to tell me and I will try to explain it better. And have a nice day.

i am so annoyed with this argument i had to create an account...fatalis is no where near garbage, run faster? 20% cd reduction is abig deal...and 35% attack speed is so insane on freya, i get boots first fatalis second....etc. fatalis is a must on many diff gods...L2P

Oh the irony.

Well how about you back up all this with actual math my friend instead of telling everyone how nice the stats look on it that would make your argument a bit more valid.Also if you don't know what I mean by math look at my post... GL

I've found it useful on tank Ymir, the extra attackspeed together with his passive is really effective.

Reinforced boots, Hide of Leviathan, mystical mark, magi's blessing, Fatalis and Ankh of the Golem <3

ooo okey... why not executioner which would work even better with his passive as you would deal way more damage and you would also reduce there armor with each hit... also your ymir build seems to be very squishy for Ymir

Boots are perfect, Hide is just a terrible item, you dont get enough protection for what it costs, mark is ok but you dont really have a way to keep someone on you like Ares and Hades does for the full effect. Magi blessing...havent see that item every really used and the passive is nice, i dont that may be a good item for him. Ill skip over the ****py item and that brings me to ankh.

I have never used this item on ymir, tho it is a pretty broken item for a bruiser / tank. An anhur fed with this is scary as ****.

Overall build effectiveness 5/10, would be 6 but...fatalis.

Well Ymir's passive is affected by his spells, the cd reduction brings some utility and allow him to more frequently inflict Frostbite. The extra movement speed is perfect to catch up with enemy gods for easier Frost Breath etc.

Ymir is tough as nails with this build and the lifesteal adds some survivabillity in team fights. It suits my playstyle perfectly. I also use Hand of the Gods when playing Ymir, for lvl/buff advantage in lane.

True, but you can do more damage and take more damage if you built differently is all.