Rage vs Malice - What's the Point?

Yes, but that's the reason why you have a good chance that you start the fight with one or more stacks of Rage buff - same chance as somewhere during the combat.

That makes the math tricky... :/

How ever, I wrote a small script to simulated crit mechnics of Rage and numbers of Alex are correct.

How is it with the new Rage? Saw he just used the old one with 10x5% stacks 5x10% stacks have to be quite a lot better I would think.

And do you know how fast you would have to get Deathbringer after getting the Malice for it to be better, or how long you would have to go about with just the Rage for that to be a better pick up?


Lets say you get Rage and doesn't get Deathbringer for 15min. How much more damage would that (in theory) be compared to going 15 min with just Malice?

Kripox posted Alex reddit thread to the new rage.

Without deathbringer: 10.9%
With deathbringer: 6.4%

Ehhh, isn't he just comparing the old Rage with Malice, not the new Rage?

Rage ONLY:
1*0.3+
2*0.7*0.4+
3*0.7*0.6*0.5+
4*0.7*0.6*0.5*0.6+
5*0.7*0.6*0.5*0.4*0.7+
6*0.7*0.6*0.5*0.4*0.3*0.8+
7*0.7*0.6*0.5*0.4*0.3*0.2*0.9+

Max stacks is 5 on the new Rage :P
That is why I would think that would be even better than the old Rage (when you don't have DB).
So again if you play 15 min with just Rage no DB how much more dps can you do than with the Malice for 15 min without DB?
This will be critical to if you want to pick up Malice or Rage, because if you have no chance of making up for the dps you lost before DB with Malice. Going Rage would be better overall (even though you lose some damage lategame).

I thought again about this topic and calculated it this way:

Rage only: 1/(1+0.7(1+0.6(1+0.5(1+0.4(1+0.3/0.8)))))) = 40.8914332% => 10.89%

Rage & Deathbringer: 1/(1+0.5(1+0.4(1+0.3(1+0.2(1+0.1))))) = 56.3952177% => 6.4%

I proved it via script afterwards => numbers are correct