Dissecting Smite #1: Oversexualization, Stereotyping, Double-Standards, and Other Misogyny in Smite :: Page 11

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Wow. I'm at a bit of a loss for words. Good piece. +1

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My main irk out of all the goddesses are Athena's jokes. She's supposed to be the badass virgin goddess of wisdom and war who sent Ares crying to his mommy during the Trojan War. What does Hi-Rez do with her concept? They make her the stereotype of a really oversexual woman by saying things like "this should cover my private parts!" and jokes like "I like to think my enemies are looking at my eyes, but we both know what they're really looking at." Uh Athena? May I reiterate the part where you decided to not undergo the temptation of sex and here you are making jokes about men looking at your breasts and talking about... armor for your genitalia...? What ._.

EDIT: I just realized she said vital parts not private, but still Athena, boob jokes? I thought you were supposed to be dignified D:

Dignity literally doesn't exist for goddesses.

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That would actually make sense, I mean the main art team for Hi-Rez are mostly women, why would they make goddesses look overtly sexual.

From where do you think that HiRez' design team is mostly women? And Smite has been making oversexualized goddesses for a long, long time.

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Just an FYI, the pics you put up look better than Smite's. And for the record, you did say that they ruined them a fair bit with those alt costumes.

And like I acknowledged in the What's the Point section, Smite isn't the worst, but nor is it the best. But it's still a problem.

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If you look at character design, many of the goddesses are impressively done, watch this video:

Here's what I don't get. This video is old, and I specifically answered the video in the thread, but again, you didn't read it and are just jumping on the H8 Sub Train.

The video's message is basically: "Kali was naked in lore, so it's fine for her to be scanty. Same for the other goddesses."

I ALREADY ADDRESSED THE LORE DEFENSE. Are you intentionally ignoring that part?

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I am going to say one last thing before I retire on this post.

@Subzero

I realize how much work you put into this site and I have the deepest respect for you; even when I ***** at you over debate topics such as this one.

@All4Games

I would rather argue with sub then deal with some of the **** you throw at people. Defend your original thoughts, don't be a follower all the time.

You're an unpleasant person and I hope you actually leave instead of passive-aggressively taking jabs at me.

Also, All4Games and my own opinion differ. He seems to think that realism has to do with real life and stuff; I say that realism is referring to the "in-universe" real. For example, magic is realistic in the Harry Potter universe.

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Yeah Toast, idk why you always go into Sub's threads with such a negative mindset towards Sub and All4. You are literally the only one using insults here, and no, calling someone a sycophant is hardly an insult. To think it is would make someone really sensitive. I mean calling someone obsequious is less of an offense than calling someone stupid or a jerk.

You are suddenly pleasant. Thank you.

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Wow. I'm at a bit of a loss for words. Good piece. +1

Hypocritical, much?

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You don't find any fault with how women are mostly strippers while the men are balanced and diverse? That as you said, "women are treated as sex toys?"

I'm probably shoving words in your mouth, but I think that if you found it a problem, you'd have mentioned it. After all, you said that only the age inappropriateness is the "real issue."

I'm saying it isn't really an issue if it is labeled as a sexually explicit game. If it was, then that would be one of the goals. Unfortunately they don't do that. So I'm saying that I agree with you, because they don't label their game properly and try to deny the fact that it is way oversexualized.

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If you would like to divert the fact that Zanestorn just tore you argument apart by picking at me be my guest.

So arrogant. I'm replying to him as we speak.

How sad. You keep saying how you respect me and want to leave this argument, and you keep hanging on like an obsessed fanboy.

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So arrogant. I'm replying to him as we speak.

How am I arrogant? Your the one who loses it with people who don't share your opinion!

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How sad. You keep saying how you respect me and want to leave this argument, and you keep hanging on like an obsessed fanboy.

I am in no way a fanboy. I think your a loudmouth arrogant prick, who happens to contribute a lot and has a good writing style.

The respect I have for you is in no way built from your personality, which I find repulsive. It is only built from the skill you have in writing; even when in some cases is directed negatively at me.

You wanna know why I went into this post with a negative attitude? It is because this post is literally built to communicate how bad you think Smite is. If you're that butt-hurt about Dawngate being cancelled, then you seriously need to get your priorities straight.

Sorry if this too personal, but I had to say it.

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So arrogant. I'm replying to him as we speak.

How sad. You keep saying how you respect me and want to leave this argument, and you keep hanging on like an obsessed fanboy.

Sub, I've heavily edited my post to make it more friendly and less aggressive. Just FYI, it has changed around abit.

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So arrogant. I'm replying to him as we speak.

How sad. You keep saying how you respect me and want to leave this argument, and you keep hanging on like an obsessed fanboy.

Honestly, this has been building up for a while, but **** you. You straight up IGNORED the post that tore you apart so you could insult toast. Your method of arguing isn't to win with your points, it's to weaken other people. You attack others for questioning you on open discussion and simply disregard the idea of respect. Why should you demand any sort of civil response when you work off of insults and emotions rather than logic and reasoning. This post was, most certainly, made to villify smite. Why not make this an off topic thread about why you hate sexualisation? Why just Smite? This is getting personal but you asked for it. Your argument right now is consisting of picking on Toast, like a debate where you make no points and your entire speech is rebuttal. We get your opinion at this point, so defend it with reasoning and don;t hide behind a barrier of insults and anonymity. I'm probably getting banned for this, but I heavily dislike your way of discussion and quite frankly I don't care how many posts you've made you're acting like a prick. Where's the nice guy that made stuff like the insane jungling guide, that guy was awesome. All we get is an overly aggressive idiot who hangs out on a forum just to spread hatred. Sorry for being so blunt, I feel it had to be said.

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Enough insults.

As I said, I'm replying to it. It's taking a while. Be patient.

Also, why are you guys assuming he "destroyed" my argument? Have you even read it? Even considered it? I doubt it.

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Let Sub reply first guys. Sub may be able to counter his points, you may never know.

I will say, however, kudos to that person who wrote that argument against Sub, most people would not be that bold.

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