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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Tantal » October 18, 2013 3:24am | Report
What CC?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Misbelief » October 18, 2013 3:28am | Report
Tantal wrote:

What CC?


Really?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Tantal » October 18, 2013 3:39am | Report
Yes, really, I'm not sure.

Do you speak about the slow of pulse? That slow you lost if you try to do real damage?

Or do you speak about banish? That CC that doesn't allow you to attack or target the opponent and where Freya isn't able to end it before time is over?

You sounds like she has also mutliple stuns like Thor or at least a root & a stun like Neith or maybe some knockback & mesmerize like Apollo or slow & root & stun like Artemis or....

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Misbelief » October 18, 2013 3:50am | Report
Tantal wrote:

Yes, really, I'm not sure.

Do you speak about the slow of pulse? That slow you lost if you try to do real damage?

Or do you speak about banish? That CC that doesn't allow you to attack or target the opponent and where Freya isn't able to end it before time is over?

You sounds like she has also mutliple stuns like Thor or at least a root & a stun like Neith or maybe some knockback & mesmerize like Apollo or slow & root & stun like Artemis or....


She can take several opponents out of a fight at once(granted they have to be standing next to each other). Basically, she can turn a 1v2 into a 1v1, a 2v2 into a 2v1. Your whole thing about just killing her after she ults completely misses this cc. Any 1v1 gank can easily be avoided by simply putting them in the air. She makes 2v1 ganks far more managable.

Btw dude...Gem of Isolation...she doesn't have to sacrifice damage to slow.

I didn't make it sound like she has any of that. I'm saying that her cc ontop of her ridiculous damage is a problem, even if you know her mechanics, they're still there and strong. The implication that freya isn't a problem if you know her mechanics is just wrong.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BrotherMonkey » October 18, 2013 3:58am | Report
Seriously Freya WTF
Not only she can TWO SHOT ANY ASSASIN OR MAGE SHE ALSO SLOWS WITHOUT ITEMS AND GAINS LONG RANGE AND IMMUNITY TO ANY KIND OF DAMAGE WITH ULTIMATE.

HOW CAN ANYONE CLAIM THAT SHE IS NOT OVERPOWERED TO THE POINT THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUN TO PLAY AGAINST HER ? and thats not counting her additional escape mechanism if you manage to go close to her and THAT TAKES FKing Miracle She will just banish you and 1/3 shot you moment you land on ground

Every time i see her in the game all i want to do is leave or slap the face of the guy who thought it would be good idea to add her.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » October 18, 2013 4:01am | Report
actually not any kind of damage. dots will still damage here and you zeus can detonate his charges even if she is in the air.

she is a pubstomper. aka she is OP for noobs and really friggen weak to expiernced players.

learn how to counter her. any assassin can kill her in 2 hits. any mage can kill her in to hits.
never forget dawngate and never forgive EA. Freia will hunt them for eternity.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Misbelief » October 18, 2013 4:09am | Report
All4Games wrote:

actually not any kind of damage. dots will still damage here and you zeus can detonate his charges even if she is in the air.

she is a pubstomper. aka she is OP for noobs and really friggen weak to expiernced players.

learn how to counter her. any assassin can kill her in 2 hits. any mage can kill her in to hits.


Didn't Shing just use Freya in a tournament? She's not weak against experienced players if being used by an experienced player.

She's easy to kill, she kills easily. She can be killed in two hits, she can also kill any mage or assassin in two hits. She can also jump in the air to do it with no consequences.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Tantal » October 18, 2013 4:37am | Report
Misbelief wrote:
She can take several opponents out of a fight at once(granted they have to be standing next to each other). Basically, she can turn a 1v2 into a 1v1, a 2v2 into a 2v1. Your whole thing about just killing her after she ults completely misses this cc. Any 1v1 gank can easily be avoided by simply putting them in the air. She makes 2v1 ganks far more managable.

Btw dude...Gem of Isolation...she doesn't have to sacrifice damage to slow.

I didn't make it sound like she has any of that. I'm saying that her cc ontop of her ridiculous damage is a problem, even if you know her mechanics, they're still there and strong. The implication that freya isn't a problem if you know her mechanics is just wrong.


And a CC like a stun would not turn it a "1v2 into a 1v1, a 2v2 into a 2v1"? You are also able to kill or at least damage them.

Aegis can take you out of a fight and some people spend gold for that. It's the same effect - only the person who triggers it isn't.

Most AA based gods have more and/or better CC than Freya. To argue that Freya is imba because of her CC is... - not good. Maybe think what would be if Banish is a stun not how it would be if you take away the last bit of utility she has.

GoI is an item - nothing to do with her slow and no, she would do more damage with other items. Items that helps her damage not only by 70 MP and nothing else. The reason why GoI is a core item is, that she does already good damage but she has too less CC. If Freya would have root and/or stun or at least some slow during 1&2, you would see less GoI on this god.

Her lategame damage is on the same level as lategame damage of gods like Artemis by the way.
How ever, Artemis does also ranged damage if Vengeful Assault is on CD.



@BrotherMonkey: Your stuff becomes not better if you write it in different colors and CAPS.

@All4Games: yes

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Nex The Slayer » October 18, 2013 4:55am | Report
The only problem I have with Freya is her ultimate.
Its better in (almost) everyway at finishing of somebody at low health compared to Hovering Death, a ultimate which is suppose to be used to finish of people at low health!

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Misbelief » October 18, 2013 4:59am | Report
Tantal wrote:



And a CC like a stun would not turn it a "1v2 into a 1v1, a 2v2 into a 2v1"? You are also able to kill or at least damage them.

Aegis can take you out of a fight and some people spend gold for that. It's the same effect - only the person who triggers it isn't.

Most AA based gods have more and/or better CC than Freya. To argue that Freya is imba because of her CC is... - not good. Maybe think what would be if Banish is a stun not how it would be if you take away the last bit of utility she has.

GoI is an item - nothing to do with her slow and no, she would do more damage with other items. Items that helps her damage not only by 70 MP and nothing else. The reason why GoI is a core item is, that she does already good damage but she has too less CC. If Freya would have root and/or stun or at least some slow during 1&2, you would see less GoI on this god.

Her lategame damage is on the same level as lategame damage like Artemis by the way.
How ever, Artemis does also ranged damage if Vengeful Assault is on CD.



@BrotherMonkey: Your stuff becomes not better if you write it in different colors and CAPS.

@All4Games: yes


I think you're confused. I'm not arguing that she's imbalanced, I'm arguing that she's really good and the implication that simply knowing her mechanics makes her "no problem", is false.

I don't see how a stun also doing something means anything, the reason I brought up her cc was to illustrate that you can't just wait for to come down from her ult and expect a free kill...she still has abilities to help herself. Right...people pay gold to be invulnerable on command, not when they're trying to kill someone or help a teammate. People pay for an uninterruptable recall, but if a god had the ability to teleport their opponent back to their base...it would be pretty overpowered. So...I don't think that was a good point.

The reason Gem of Isolation is a core item is because it slows on basic attacks, which is where all of her damage comes from. Even if she had a snare or stun(which would for certain make her unbalanced) she would still get Gem of Isolation. My point was that you don't have to sacrifice the large amount of damage to use her slow ability, you can get this item which does all of the work for you.

Artemis has insane damage, so...I don't really know why you thought this was a good point. I agree, Freya does insane damage like Artemis.

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