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agni only has his meteors as range with, those meteors do not provide enough dps to do what anubis does. hebo as i have mentioned before is a melee range assassin mage.

hebo has the damage but not the range, agni has the range but not the damage.

agni is a mage and not an assassin mage, basicly one of the people anubis would try to pick of at a team fight. hebo can't get close enough to the squishy's in the chinese meta because they are postioned to well.

so no still no one can do what anubis does and he bo and agni are not a good example to fit with the discription i gave.

why did you even mention he bo when i already talked about him? esspecially not with any arguments?

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Because I'm not trying to argue with you o.o? You did perfectly describe Agni and He Bo and here's why

He Bo does have the range with . Not as much range as Anubis with his ult I guess but there's still the range. Agni does have the range and damage. He is a burst mage like He Bo. Spam your 4, put down your and use you'll deal a **** ton of unavoidable damage.. I've played Agni enough to tell you can deal ranged damage very easily lol

Anubis can deal more damage than either of them no doubt- Anubis can pretty much out damage most gods in most scenarios because that's what he's meant for. Anubis is an extreme for pure burst. He Bo and Agni are also pure burst but are better picks due to their mobility and shorter cooldowns. Chang'e is an extreme for sustained burst.

On topic, Anubis might be a good pick for them simply because their meta is different. I'm not exactly sure how it goes down there but that really has to be the only answer. In our meta, Anubis is a bad pick for mid because he has no escape, is extremely vulnerable, and an extreme. His damage is insane. He will win/lose against you in a 1v1 scenario based on 2 things. Whether Anubis lands his stun and/or you are low. Usually if Anubis misses his stun he's dead but if you are less than 75% health w/o an Aegis or insane juking skills you're still toast due to Anubis' insane damage.

The usual items bought to counter Anubis include magi's blessing and . So gawta think even if you have CC immunity he'll still deal quite a lot of damage. My favorite combination of items for him is and . Depends if you're a mobile god then or magi's blessing works better since you can get out of the range of his ult more easily.

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RT already mentioned why anubis works so well in their meta, reason being because they focus on postioning which in turn means that they become a lot stronger with characters that dont have high mobility because they have no need to pull them selves out of danger because they won't get into any.

hebo has one ranged skill that is also his least damaging and is one a 10 second cool down, that doesn't make him a ranged mage, his ult and 1 which is his main damage force him to be in melee range which is why hebo isn't picked over anubis, its just rare for him to get in melee range of the squishies.

agni does a lot of burst AoE damage with his ult and he has a little stun but flame wave is again a melee range skill that he won't get to use on the squishies because of postioning.

agni's burst is also not fast enough to do what anubis does.

anubis late game can use his stun, 3 and ult and in about 1 second time the person he chose to perish is dead. he cancels his ult if neccesary and walks away or continues to use it if he can hit another squishy with it even if it is for a tiny moment.

agni simply doesnt have the same dps. agni again doesn't even forfill the same role as anubis, anubis is ment to kill one person in one second from afar and either die, walk away or continue to do damage. agni on the other hand is ment to bring continuing damage in large AoE's from a far in team fightes.

items cost money and if anubis get's to blow a beads or aegis or both and walk away because he is safe through postioning of him and his team, he waits for his stun cool down and can do it again.

those items are more like niche saves then actual countering mechanics to anubis, this game has so much cc that is can just be hard to deside what to even use beads on, this mez, that stun, that silence, that vortex, this slow, that root. and really while those items may save you from anubis once or twice, his cool downs are faster then that aegis or beads and we all know that his stun,3 and ult is not his only combo so magi's isn't going to save you for ever.

or you do counter him but again cool downs and you had to blow 900 gold on it and now you are an item behind on him while you dont hold enough damage to kill him anymore.

he will win almost all 1v1's based on what combo he uses, he misses his stun and far away? ult aoe slow and ult anyway, he misses his stun and is close? aoe slow and 1.

and that will hardly mather because if you get skilled enough you will hit 95% of all stuns and even then you hold a fighting chance or you can walk away.

anubis is not good in EU or NA because the meta focuses on shot calling over postioning, it's why anubis isn't popular, he is not mobile so he can't get to all shots called as quick as lets say agni or hebo.

if shot calling is less of a problem but postioning is key a lot of immobile characters come back into play, people may want some one with more cc instead of a dash with soft cc or a global ult or a teleport or any mobility like that. so guys like anubis for his insane damage or cc focused tanks come back, or there double mid is the meta.

not to say one meta is better then the other, both have pros and cons and its depended on what you would like to do better.

but if you want to become really good at positioning in this game you better play some one who can't get away for **** like anubis.

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(well if you really wanna learn what and why positioning is important and want to get better i recommand trying some top down moba's because the game focuses really hard on that but people here sometimes shun others like they are monsters for even daring to speak of other moba's... so i did it this messages in between these things ()...)

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I feel sorry for them once the other team gets rank 3 beads, rank 3 aegis and magi's blessing

Rofl...

I've had it happen where almost the entire team had all 3 of those items....

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Yeah Spirit Robe is a pretty damn hard counter to Anubis. Never considered it, but also haven't seen him in many many games.

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When I discovered that item, I never lost to another Anubis in 1v1

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I can't really say any God is master of 1v1 anymore, there are some Gods who excel at it, but it more comes down to who counters what move, when you use what move and what the other person is doing when you use that move.

For example.... hahah lolol this is kind of funny...

In siege the enemy had a Anubis and I was Guan Yu (Only because I been spamming Guan Yu to get him to rank X so prepare to hear me spam Guan Yu in every thread until then :)

Now, right off the bat you would probably think, derp Anubis gonna **** on dat Guan!!!

Well yea, Anubis has the same downsides as a hel does.... no escape = Horsey time on your ***.

If none of you know how strong horsey is, lets just say its the highest physical damage ult in the game so I suggest not eating it....

Anubis can't escape it, and the only way he can even survive is with a rank 3 aegis which won't come until later on mid game to late game most likely if he even wanted to use that as a active.

My point is this, it more comes down to who uses what at what time. For example, Anubis can **** on Guan Yu's face all day... BUT once I use that horsey the tables are turned on Anubis because he is going to eat my horsey, and horsey also stuns....

Assuming most players get rank 1-2 aegis maximum until midish to late game that means Anubis will pretty much NEVER survive facing Guan Yu unless he kills Guan Yu before he gets on his horsey. Because once horsey come its GG.

Why do I keep saying horsey and GG for Anubis???

Because Gods like Agni can just dash away from my Horsey and avoid the **** ton of damage and stun, Anubis can't.

When I see a God with no escape I know two things, I either got a free kill once my horsey is up or I can at least get them low enough for them to run away and my team will probably clean them up later.

Like I said rank 3 aegis is the ONLY way Anubis can survive and even with that I don't think its long enough to avoid every hit of the ult.

Meanwhile if I am Guan Yu and have Aeigs 3/Beads and Magi's blessing, Anubis is almost never going to kill me.

I'm not joking either.

Anubis is a load blower, he blows his **** then waits for cooldowns. If any of it misses he is ****ed.

So the obvious thing is to say, well duh, just land the abilities noob!!!

Well you see even if you land the abilities as Anubis your not going to get a kill most the time. They can just beads out or Aegis 3 all your damage and yes I do mean ALL of your damage not like Guan Yu where Anubis can only avoid some of the horsey, but you can actually avoid ALL of Anubi's 3 and ult for the entire duration I am pretty sure.

If they have Magi's blessing its GG for you.

You are forced into a gem of isolation if they have all of that to even compete with them.

I love mah Anubis, but I have to come to grips with his downsides and you will realize them when you go against people in league who all have Beads rank 3, Aegis rank3 and magi's blessing.

Imagine facing a ****ing team with full magi blessing and both actives....

You are pretty much never going to get a stun and even if you do your not getting the kill, instead you just wasted everything and know have to wait while they chase you down or kill your team while you can't do anything.

* Beads 3, oh just wait it out right? Its only one beads, I mean hey its cooldown is kind of long right? Yes except for the fact that they also have

* Rank 3 Aegis, oh now they have another beads but even worst, it makes you invincible from all damage and gets you out of the CC. What will you say now? Oh well just make them waste both beads and aegis??? Okay **** it lets even give you that!!!

* Magi's blessing, now they have this.....

So why people don't play Anubis is easy.

You have to make them waste 3 things just to get a damn kill or land CC even IF you hit every skill....

First you have to get rid of their CC shield
Then you have to make them waste beads or aegis
then after that you have to make them waste the other beads or aegis

Then you can finally CC them or kill them

OH BUT WAIT!!!!

Since they have 3 forms of counters

That means one actives will most likely be back up before you need to use it and that also means the CC shield will be back!!!

Hurrayyayaya!!!

Seriously, Anubis only works on teams that do not buy the counters or on a heavy *** CC team, and I mean really heavy in order to make them waste all of that.

Yes those items counter Anubis more than other Gods.

You can't counter Agni with those items because his ult will be back up every 20 seconds and has more range and he can use those ults when ever he chooses too. Also his damage is not all pure burst like Anubis. Agni is bursty but what I mean is that Anubis does all of his damage quickly and its all avoidable.

With Gods like Agni a aegis will not avoid all the damage, you can't avoid 3 bombs, a dash with ticking over time damage and a fumes and a flame wave all with one aegis.

WIth Anubis one aegis can take the entire combo and eat it.

*What it simply comes down to is this*

- Gods with no escapes get ate up easy once they make a mistake

That means Guan Yu's horsey can eat up Anubis, AMC, Hel, Kukulkan, Hebo, Poseidon, Isis ect.

Any God who cannot outrun horsey will surely die (even possibly with a active)

Any God who has a decent escape will not die by horsey and not even get hit by horsey most likely.

Agni, Syclla, Janus, Ullr, Anhur, ect.

I'm not calling Anubis garbage, but if he is facing a team who is stacked on actives and items that counter him, he is going to have a 1000X greater time being pro than other Gods.

That's pretty much it, with other Gods you just do what you do, with Anubis you have to work hard as **** just to do what you want to do. People want easiness therefor they pick Gods who they know can just get in and do ****.

I used to think I could be pro with Anubis in league, yea, it works out well when the other team only has one counter, and even that is a pain in the ***, but when your facing a team that has 3 counter items for you, it makes it close to impossible to kill them.

Because any time you catch them they will likely have at least ONE of those 3 counters up.
If they do not have beads up they will have aegis up, if they do not have aegis up they will have beads up, if both are those are down they will have the CC shield up, once you get the shield down then they will get one of their actives back.

Its close to impossible to catch them with all of the counters down.

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I agree with ICEN, but I'd just like to say a few things.

First of all, in this current meta, Escapes and CC are both very in, escapes because of CC mostly. Anubis has fairly good CC, but Agni has CC and an escape.

But anyways, there are other reasons why Anubis isn't in with NA and EU meta; he has little to no team fight potential, yes he may be strong if not the best at 1v1, he has a slow and 2 abilities with root him to 1 position. So what if he sets up the perfect ult? He might be able to down someone to 1/2 health before the enemy team steam rolls him. Look at all of the meta strong mages; Ra, Nu Wa, Scylla, Agni, Janus. They all mostly have escapes and very good utility and team fight potential.

But as to why he is good in China, I have no idea, perhaps their meta is more focused on the landing phase, and less grouping, or perhaps meta strong gods are just worse against Anubis.

Summary: Anubis isn't good in NA and EU meta, but could be good in China, it's just that I haven't seen any Chinese/Asian play yet. Just have to wait till the World Championship.

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