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Can we split Hel into 2 different gods?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » December 4, 2013 5:43am | Report
No, this is not about her stances, it's the fact that Hel makes an awesome mage and an equally awesome support, all in one goddess. I think that that's a wee bit OP.

For example, keep the stances on Support Hel, but change her kit to buff/debuffs, with a bit of damage and healing. Then on Mage Hel, make her kit change between healing and damage, while removing the buffs/debuffs, and maybe put some CC in there, and maybe an ultimate, since Cleanse/??? would be on the support.

(Note: I'm not saying both should be called Hel. It could easily be a different god.)]

How's that sound?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Talenhiem » December 4, 2013 6:06am | Report
...nah. You say she's OP for having 6 abilities and being able to fill two roles very well. Other people say she's UP because she's extremely squishy, has no ultimate, and has no escape. I think that they balance out to a great god, with one exception: When you first start playing her, you suck at her. When you play her a lot (Turnip) you become grossly overpowered. But I guess that that's the kind of god she is.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by MadDanny » December 4, 2013 6:25am | Report
I want more god's with skill changing abilities. Or better yet. Their passive changes their skills as well as their ultimate. Maybe depending on their hp/mp. But I have no idea what kind of god would inherit that kind of skill set...
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » December 4, 2013 6:31am | Report
MD, It's very rare to have changing abilities because it's VERY complicated to balance around 6 abilities and an ult instead of just 3. When tuning the champion, it becomes very hard to not only give 6 UNIQUE spells, but making sure they aren't just two sides to the same coin, OR provide too much utility.

Think of League of Legends. With Yasuo, there's 117 champions compared to Smite's 45 (?). How many have multiple forms?
Jayce, Elise, Nidalee. You could sort of argue Lee Sin but they're really just a duo-effect to each single spell, sort of like a Tyr who wouldn't have to swap stances or something.

So based on that trend, there'd be ONE more god with a dual-set of abilities in the next...34 gods. Heh, have fun waiting.

Now obviously Smite isn't League of Legends, but there's a reason it's like that. It's simply VERY, VERY hard to balance while keeping him COMPLETELY unique.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by antarian » December 4, 2013 6:31am | Report
I like her in current state ...
I am not playing her a lot but its very interesting god :-) (maybe I will start again when I will finish masteries)

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Creationism » December 4, 2013 11:19am | Report
Raventhor wrote:

MD, It's very rare to have changing abilities because it's VERY complicated to balance around 6 abilities and an ult instead of just 3. When tuning the champion, it becomes very hard to not only give 6 UNIQUE spells, but making sure they aren't just two sides to the same coin, OR provide too much utility.

Think of League of Legends. With Yasuo, there's 117 champions compared to Smite's 45 (?). How many have multiple forms?
Jayce, Elise, Nidalee. You could sort of argue Lee Sin but they're really just a duo-effect to each single spell, sort of like a Tyr who wouldn't have to swap stances or something.

So based on that trend, there'd be ONE more god with a dual-set of abilities in the next...34 gods. Heh, have fun waiting.

Now obviously Smite isn't League of Legends, but there's a reason it's like that. It's simply VERY, VERY hard to balance while keeping him COMPLETELY unique.

reminds me of tyr. Has extremely good tankiness and keeps an OP damage output. He is very hard to deal with.

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