Izanami Guide: These Sickles DO bite!

Thanks.

Tanks should be less efficient due to Qin's Sais, though I can see where you're coming from.

Due note that only Deathbringer is only a 20% crit chance, which isn't that high.

Also, when Izanami's 1st ability is active, her basic attacks function identical to that of, say Artemis, and can thus crit equally.

That build would indeed work, especially in gamemodes like Arena, where base is very close and lifesteal isn't that much of a necessity.

Your build will suffer in a mode like Assault, due to the lack of lifesteal, unless you have increased Hp5 from other sources or a good supporting team.

CDR wouldn't be my first guess on Izanami. It will help with making your escape available more often, which is nice, but other than that its benefits are usually not noticeable.

I feel that Izanami is a godess with which you get in combat, use all of your abilities and then continue to basic attack, and either win or lose. She only has 2 damaging abilities, one being the ultimate. By the time your abilities are back up you should've either won or you'll most likely be watching a respawn screen, unless both participants in said fight fail to connect their attacks.

My suggestion would be to remove Jotunn's Wrath and keep Hydra's Lament.
The penetration from Jotunn's Wrath is insufficient to purchase the item for that reason, the mana isn't much needed due to Transcendence (though they can work together due to passives.) and for the power there are other items.

In place of Jotunn's Wrath, Deathbringer would be a solid option. Activating your 1st ability, increasing damage and attack speed, plus Hydra's Lament's passive (due to 1 activation) and Deathbringer's massive crit power spike, will deal a lot of damage. Especially since once you have your 1 active, your basic attacks function identical to any other hunter's.

I'd remove Hastened Fatalis with wind demon if you do what I said above, to get 40% crit chance, because only 20 isn't enough. If you don't switch it around, Hastened Fatalis can stay, though I'd prefer a lifesteal item in this case (such as Soul Eater) over hastened.

Izanami's basics got reworked to do 75% going in, 25% coming back. So it would be 750 out, 250 in on the crit.

Could be entirely possible, of course. I'd like to have Qin's Sais as a failsafe. Crit is still RNG. If you have an unlucky moment in which your crits don't work, Qin's Sais helps pick that up, while if those crits do hit combined with Qin's Sais the damage increases a lot.

I do understand the fact that Qin's Sais combined with Crit would be "less effective" in normal circumstances, but as Izanami's damage is allready limited Qin's Sais should, in my opinion, stay. If you do decide to drop either of the 2, I'd drop the crit.

If you do take Hastened Fatalis, I'd switch it with Soul Eater

You'll lose the lifesteal, but if you remove Qin's Sais you're going to lose even more of the allready limited power.

With that statement, he is absolutely right.
People should not blindly follow builds that Pros are using, just because they are pro.

Incon sometimes tries some very weird build and would still wreck.
That's only because they are good, builds have less impact at that level.
Since we, common people, are not at the same level, we need a little advantage, so we cannot afford to have an under-performing build.

Also, he is right about the fact that Qins and Crit items should not be built together.
That is a simple math question.
- Qin's main damage is by it's passive (40 power and 15% attack speed is good, but there are better)
- Qin's passive is not affected by crit
- Crit needs a consistent crit % to be effective, so at least 2 items.

So, with Boots, Lifesleal, Penetration and Power as Core items, that kinda leave only 2 items.
So, either crit, either qins and an second attack speed item.
Having both, means 1 crit and qins,
- Qin's doesn't get enough attack speed to benefit the passive
- Crit doesn't get enough crit % to be effective
In terms of build efficency, it's just not worth it.


However, there is a time where it can be an option to have both : when you are in the process to switch from Qin's to Crit (for example having Qin's Sais and Wind Demon while waiting to get 1420g to replace Qin's Sais with Deathbringer).

Since Qin's is cheaper (only need 1 item to really increase your DPS), many will start the Qin's build and if the game lasts very long, will switch over to the crit build.
Overall, the final build would be the double crit without Qin's and would have cost more than having straight for crit. However, the power curves are more smooth and it's not negligible in Conquest.

That is absolutely a statement I can agree with, in a general sense, not specifically with regard to any specific god or build.

Pros can make certain things work that more casual players would have a difficult time doing well. For example, with a 5-man extremely familiar with each other, in sync, etc., the Ritual Dagger passive relic duration increase can extend a group push/teamfight that other groups might never really take advantage of optimally.

So just because Incon builds a specific, technically weird way for Supports where he ends up buying partials of multiple items, doesn't mean we'll do as well copying him.


Yes, in a direct technical sense when comparing the "synergy" of Qin's Sais and critical strikes, and perhaps more specifically for Iza with her unique kit...but also no, in the idea that this is an extremely limiting and narrow-minded statement.

What I mean by this is that Qin's Sais and crit items don't directly enhance the others' passives or anything else...sure, that's obvious. However, understand that their purpose is the same. Both increase DPS strongly, but in different ways.

IF you can get away with it, building both can provide some incredible DPS. They have their strengths and weaknesses... Qin's Sais is a great mid-game DPS spike, and as a single item, there's probably no better item for a hunter. But it really requires high attack speed to take more advantage of the passive.

Crit requires 2 items to really provide efficient damage and % crit chance, and they're expensive. So they're purchased late. Between Qin's and crits, it can be a bit cost-prohibitive to build both in one match. But keep in mind, the attack speed from Qin's is welcome to a crit build...more attacks means more chances to crit. So there's SOME synergy there.

But in some cases, where you're already steamrolling the enemy team, you may find that you can actually build all of the above and not be behind in your build structure. The main thing to remember though is that between these items, half of your total item slots are filled. You need Boots of some type, and lifesteal, and (preferably) protection reduction or penetration, so your choices are limited at that point.

In the end, Qin's + crits can absolutely be done. SHOULD they be done everytime? Absolutely not...but to say straight up "it is one or the other" loses focus on what you're looking to do...which is to deal as much damage as possible.

There are probably some items you could get in place for this. However, when it comes to lifesteal items, this one is probably your go-to for Izanami.

This is the only lifesteal item that gives attack speed, which Izanami benefits more from, due to the way her basic attacks work.

Also, lifesteal % is reduced with Izanami's attacks (also because of how it works), therefore, most other lifesteal items will just lose so much potential on Izanami. What makes Soul Eater even more special is its passive. When you're losing a fight, the instant health gain can save your life.

Your build looks great aswell. However do note that Titan's Bane isn't entirely necessary if you can use Izanami's passive, which allready gives %Pen.