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Smite God: Ymir

Choose a Build: Conquest - Tank/Support

Conquest - Tank/Support Bruiser - Put Some Ice On It

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Ymir Build

As soon as you spawn

Watcher's Gift

Healing Potion

Actives - Pick 2

Hand Of The Gods (Old)

Eye of Providence

Shielded Teleport

Blink Rune

Early Game - If Gold is Needed

Shoes

Guard Boots (P)

Midas Boots (M)

early game - if defense is needed

Shoes

Guard Boots (P)

Reinforced Greaves (Deleted)

Physical Protection

Breastplate of Valor

Mystical Mail

Sovereignty

Hide of the Urchin

Magical Protection

Stone of Gaia

Bulwark of Hope

Hide of the Urchin

Situational

Ethereal Staff

Pestilence

Magi's Cloak

Ymir's Skill Order

Ice Wall

1 X

3 15 16 18 19

Glacial Strike

2 A

1 4 6 7 10

Frost Breath

3 B

2 8 11 12 14

Shards of Ice

4 Y

5 9 13 17 20

Me Name Ymir

Introduction

- About the Author -
Hey guys, I'm Sanguis and this is my UPDATED guide here at Smitefire; I hope that it pleases you to read it as much as it pleased me to write. I've worked extensively on this guide to ensure quality was not overlooked. I would appreciate all and any feedback about the information and presentation of this guide. is an amazing god, and is one of my favorite Gods to play because of his control and dominance in team fights. Throughout this guide you will find tabs that will talk more about particular subjects. If your looking for breadth, then graze over the small sections, but if you want depth, then take a peek at the tabs found throughout the guide.

- Content Disclaimer -
This guide is 100% my experience with this God and a reflection of my own style of playing, not anyone else's. Everything here has been tried and tested. Take everything I say at face value. If you find something else works for you, then post your thoughts down below! I'm always willing to test out new things to improve this guide!

- Last Updated -
02/05/2014
Here are some of the newest updates:
> New & Improved Ymir Builds section
> Updated Roaming & Ganking section
> New Banner designed by TormentedTurnip in the Credit section.
If you want to see all the updates, then click here.

Me Goods & Me Bads

Me Goods / Me Bads

Me Goods

+ Great Defense
+ Arsenal of CC
+ Can Lane Anywhere
+ Easy to Play
+ Partners Well with Everyone

In-depth Coverage of Me Goods

Me Bads

- No Escape
- Very Slow
- Long Cooldowns
- Ability Reliant
- Terrible Initiator

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ME SMASH!

Ability Explanation

- FROSTBITE -

- Intel -

This passive keeps viable while all other abilities are on CD, as long as you landed your abilities. also helps with early and late jungle clears to grab for you or your partner. Overlooking this passive as basically useless just makes you another mediocre .

+ Tips & Tricks +

Most of Ymir's attacks stun or cc. Between the slows take advantage of the increase in basic attack damage. The small things count!

- ICE WALL -

- Intel -

This ability has a medium length CD, but when correctly used can be a game changer. Blocking paths, stopping enemies from using abilities to escape (ex. ), and controlling how team fights flow make this ability by far one of the best form of CC. can be take some time to master, but placing in the right spot at the right time will be worth it.

In-depth Coverage of Ice Wall

+ Tips & Tricks +

Be able to anticipate. This takes time, but players give away silent queues when they're about to use specific abilities. A Cupid typically saves Flutter to escape or uses it to gap close and burst you down. Use this anticipation to counter with Ice Wall. Anticipation can change the flow of the fight!
Practice with this ability often. Know how and where to place Ice Wall. You can angle the wall so you can body block him in the corner of a wall while your allies attack!
Practice with this ability often. Know when to use this ability. Do not cut allies off. Depth perception is key with this ability!

- GLACIAL STRIKE -

- Intel -

Of all 's abilities, has the shortest CD with just 8 seconds. Rotating through all of your abilities as well as utilizing will ensure this ability is up again. Landing this ability also places a CC and on the affected. Make use of this.

In-depth Coverage of glacial strike

+ Tips & Tricks +

Use this ability directly after Frost Breath. It's a great combo and damage dealer. This will stun and, then CC the enemy. If you are in duo/long lane with your ally, then they will be able to land their abilities and basic attacks. This typically leaves them severely injured and having to back or ends with their death!

- FROST BREATH -

- Intel -

Most incredible ability has. This conal stun is the amazing. Landing this ability not only stuns the enemy, but deals moderate damage. Utilizing this ability in team fights will surely give you the edge.

In-depth Coverage of frost breath

+ Tips & Tricks +

Do not use auto-cast. I like to have this ability ready to use ahead of time. You want to make sure this ability lands. If you have this ability already ready to go, then as soon as the enemy crosses into the affected area, then you activate the ability!
This ability affects unlimited targets. Try to make sure you stun as many as possible; especially in team fights.

- SHARDS OF ICE -

- Intel -

One of the strongest ultimates I have seen in the game. At level 20 it produces 1100 damage plus 150% of your magical power. This ability can be canceled ahead of time, but does reduced damage. This ultimate is wonderful in team fights right after a . It slows the enemies and makes them scatter (confusion is great in team fights).

In-depth Coverage of shards of ice

+ Tips & Tricks +

Make sure you utilize the cancel function of this ultimate. This ultimate takes a few seconds to actually go off, but if you know that the enemy will be able to escape, then cancel by right-clicking. This will ensure a portion of the damage is inflicted instead of your ultimate being wasted. Practicing with this ability will give you a better reference for when to go through with the ultimate and when to cancel.

Ability Cycle Explanation (ACE)

Ability Cycle Explanation

Ability Sequence

> > >

's ultimate, , will always take priority when it comes to leveling skills, but we want to max out first when it comes to our core abilities. is our main damage dealer and lane clearer. Once this bad boy gets a few levels, it will do enough damage to clear a wave of minions. Next, level . This is the bread and butter of , but its damage is lacking. The stun on this baby is amazing! I cannot say this enough! Land this ability and you will crush your opponents. Finally, pick up . You will grab this ability at level 3 or 4, but will not touch it again till end game. It's useful, but the other abilities are just far more superior.

Ymir Builds

TANK/SUPPORT BUILD

shield of regrowth

In-depth Coverage of Tank/support build

Core Items

Watcher's Gift
800

midas boots

Midas Boots
1700

reinforced greaves
2140

This is a starter item I pick up immediately along with active items and a few health potions. It's the starter item I feel is best for a tank/support. It allows you, , to regen and buy items faster due to its passive.

In-depth Coverage of watcher's gift

midas boots

I generally pick this item up after if I'm building as a tank/support. Now, Smitefire is a little out of date on their items. midas boots actually gives 100 health and 100 mana. Only off by 5 health and 5 mana, but every little bit counts. This item also gives you 1 gold/second. Pairing it with allows you to quickly purchase your items.

In-depth Coverage of midas boots

I pick thus item up in the late after selling back midas boots. Smitefire hasn't yet updated the stats for the reconfiguration of boots, but these greaves give 30% reduction to CC durations. These greaves are great for getting to different parts of the map faster with 26% extra movement speed while out of combat as well. Great pick if you're building as a tank/support.

In-depth Coverage of reinforced greaves

Physical Protection

Breastplate of Valor
2300

mystical mark

Mystical Mark
2850

Sovereignty
2550

Hide of the Urchin
2500

This a great item to pick up if your in need of physical protection. It gives a large amount of physical protection without having a passive to increase the protection amount. It also gives much needed CD reduction for the long timer on . This is top pick if you're going to pick up a physical protection item after you finish your core items.

In-depth Coverage of breastplate of valor

mystical mark

This item provides an above average amount of physical protection as well as a nice boost to the health pool, but what has to be commended about this item is it's passive. The 40 magical damage per second to enemies within 25 feet is amazing.

In-depth Coverage of mystical mark

I find this item to be one of the greatest team-based protection items. The aura is profound and the physical defense along with the aura will make any who is harassing become nothing more than a squeaky, little kitten. The large health boost is great as well!

In-depth Coverage of sovereignty

If you are looking for an extra health and mana boost, then look no further! This item is a great choice to boost your health pool and mana pool. Not only does this item provide health and mana, but provides the most magical and physical protection a single item can provide. This is due to the amazing passive this item has. As you may not land many kills, but assists will come almost effortlessly! Getting the max amount of stacks (10) will come easy! Also, they don't fall off after a death!

In-depth Coverage of hide of the urchin

Magical Protection

Stone of Gaia
2250

Bulwark of Hope
2525

Hide of the Urchin
2500

This item has the most magic protection a single item can provide. If you are being harassed by a team full of mages, then it's time to pick up this item. The regen on this item is insane, especially the health regen. Since already has a high health pool and the passive works off a percent base; you will see 's health bounce back quickly with this item! Great for staying in team fights longer.

is a a well-rounded item, if you're looking for some magical protection. It provides a large chunk of health as well, 450. The passive is what makes this item amazing. Reducing all incoming damage by 50% for a whole second is great in team fights and great for last minute escapes.

In-depth Coverage of bulwark of hope

In-depth Coverage of hide of the urchin

Situational

Ethereal Staff
2700

Pestilence
2150

magi's blessing

Magi's Blessing
2100

is a great item to pick up if you feel your team is lacking power in team fights. It provides the most amount of health a single item can provide without having to max out stacks from a passive. At level 20, you will gain 63.8 magical power from the passive from 's base health plus the 600 health from this item. That's if you don't pick up other items for your tank/support build which includes extra health.

In-depth Coverage of ethereal staff

is a great item to pick up if the enemy team consists of healing/support Gods. This item significantly helps reduce their healing abilities plus it reduces all nearby God's regeneration too. Also, this is considered a support item, but it also functions well with tanking. provides an average amount of magical protection and a large health boost.

In-depth Coverage of pestilence

magi's blessing

This item is a well rounded defensive item. It has health, protection, and CC reduction. Not to mention its passive can save you from being stunned by an enemy 's or a ' . If your team is doing fine, but your facing off against a team with heavy CC, then its time to consider this as an option.

BRUISER BUILD

In-depth Coverage of bruiser build

ACTIVES

In-depth Coverage of actives

Gameplay

EARLY GAME

DISCLAIMER!!!

When you first pop into your game you're going to want to grab your starter item ( if you're building as a tank/ if you're building as a bruiser), (level 1), (level 1), and 2 health potions.

The active situation

After grabbing your basic items you will need to head to a specific area which depends on which side of the map your team is on. The picture to the right of us will help us to understand what is going on.

The teams will be divided up as Team Blue and Team Red. The blue will be part of Team Blue and the Cacodemon will be part of Team Red.

TEAM BLUE

The easiest way to tell which side you are on is to look at your minimap and determine where the FIRE GIANT is located. If the FIRE GIANT is located on the LEFT side of the map, then you are Team Blue. As a duo/long lane God you will be starting off over by the right side, mid fury camp, located right next to the middle lane. You will be attended by your partner of duo/long lane and the God going to middle lane. The jungler and solo laner should veer off and nab the mana buff located next to solo lane, this is highlighted by the blue circle located right under the red dot, which is the FIRE GIANT. This is a good way to make sure experience and gold isn't divided to much due to proximity of to many people.

Once you clear the mid fury camp, then move on to the next camp. If you have middle assisting or a jungler who decided not to go help secure mana buff with solo, then clear the attack buff. Otherwise, finish off mana camp. I typically save to clear this camp quickly and get into lane. Also, I typically give the mana buff to my partner. Be careful of how you use your mana. Use it wisely and be sure when you do use your mana that the ability landed (don't waste mana!). This will be your only crux for a few levels. As long as your passive with your mana you should be fine. Your ADC should be doing most of the lane clear anyway for extra experience and gold. Save your abilities for enemies and occasionally on minions to make it easier for your ally.

If you are building as a bruiser, then should be able to keep your mana issues under control as long as you take advantage of it's passive by ing the minion wave at the right time and in the right position to clear the wave and get 60 health and mana. Also, will be up every other minion wave, so use it effectively. 's passive will kick in when using .

TEAM RED

The easiest way to tell which side you are on is to look at your minimap and determine where the FIRE GIANT is located. If the FIRE GIANT is located on the RIGHT side of the map, then you are TEAM RED. As a duo/long lane God you will be starting off over by the left side mana camp, located right next to you duo/long lane tower, you can also try to steal the enemies mana buff, but you may get ganked. You will be attended by your partner of duo/long lane. The jungler, middle laner, and solo laner should veer off and nab the mid fury camp located next to middle lane on the right side, this is highlighted by the red circle located right of the red dot, which is the FIRE GIANT. This is a good way to make sure experience and gold isn't divided to much due to proximity of to many people.

Once you clear the mana camp, then move into your lane. I typically use to clear this camp quickly and get into lane. Also, I typically give the mana buff to my partner. Be careful of how you use your mana. Use it wisely and be sure when you do use your mana that the ability landed (don't waste mana!). This will be your only crux for a few levels. As long as your passive with your mana you should be fine. Your ADC should be doing most of the lane clear anyway for extra experience and gold. Save your abilities for enemies and occasionally on minions to make it easier for your ally.

If you are building as a bruiser, then should be able to keep your mana issues under control as long as you take advantage of it's passive by ing the minion wave at the right time and in the right position to clear the wave and get 60 health and mana. Also, will be up every other minion wave, so use it effectively. 's passive will kick in when using .

You may notice that Blue Team has an advantage by clearing more camps, which means they have more gold and experience, but since you get to lane much faster, then you and your partner can push the minions quickly into their tower before they arrive. This can lead to two situations:

The opposing lane members will not make it to lane in time to stop the first minion wave from chipping at their tower. Which puts you at an advantage of having the lane pushed. Make sure wards are in place (will discuss later) or jungle will mess you up.
The opposing lane members will arrive just as you cleared their minions and having to deal with a wave of minions plus you and your teammate. I find this situation to be the best. At level 1-3, a minion wave will tear you up. Use Frost Breath and Glacial Strike and I assure you a FIRST BLOOD will appear for your team. Hopefully your laning mate isn't a noob.

WARDING

As I have found most people will assume you are the one to be warding. Not sure who decided this, but I'm a team player and do not mind it. In fact, warding is one of the greatest things! I HATE getting ganked by junglers or idiot team mates who do not call missings until their opposing lane god has his cheese all up on yo' bread.

Warding, though, changes as the game changes. In early lane phases it's safe to place the wards you will receive from in the 5 locations I have marked on the map to the right. Obviously, you will only be able to have 3 wards out at any given time, but you can use your judgement in where you would like to place them. I only use those 5 points because they allow me to see incoming enemies before hand and they're very easy to drop and get back into lane. If you are being harassed by your lane, then I suggest only using the closest 3 ward points to the lane. You can drop the wards at those points without actually stepping off the lane.

MIDDLE GAME

Determining when "middle game" starts and ends is different from game to game and most times goes unnoticed, but subtle things happen which hint at it being this phase in the game. Let's take a look at some indications which point to it being middle game:

Gods, besides the jungler, are starting to help with ganks. (Also, roaming occurs.)
Killing the Golden Fury as a team of 3 or more.
Destroying towers (not to be confused with damaging the tower).
Team fights are starting to happen.

If you are wondering about how to roam or where to gank, then click here . I've set up an entire section that is dedicated to roaming and ganking!

Let's point out that just because one of these things happens doesn't mean middle game has begun. Also, these are just a few indications of middle game starting. If you have any suggestions, please feel free to post down below and I will possibly update this area with your suggestion!

Typically, if 2-3 of the above events are occurring frequently, then it's safe to say you are now entering into the middle game. Middle game doesn't mean laning is over, but it does mean you will be weaving out of your lane more often, especially as

Ymir. is amazing with "surprise" ganks. If can get behind an enemy god and pin that god between another ally, then things are about to get real uncomfortable for the enemy. Try to before they can detect you. Then, finish off with a . This stun and slow combo will kill most enemy gods, especially if your teammate is taking full advantage of a locked down enemy.

Golden Fury

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Team Fights

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WARDING

Warding in middle game is at your discretion. No, you still have to ward, but where you place your wards opens up greatly. I still tend to place them around the Golden Fury jungle, but it may be helpful to start throwing a ward over in the FIRE GIANT jungle. There are two reasons for this:

Keep an eye on the FIRE GIANT in case the enemy team tries to push the game into end game (we will talk about this later).
All duo/long lane members are going to start leaving their lane and gank middle and solo lane. Middle will typically see a duo enemy with the wards that were placed in the Golden Fury jungle, but do not forget to VF3/1. However, if they cut across middle and rush towards solo, then solo will probably not notice, but a well placed ward that is watching FIRE GIANT can also catch incoming enemies. Your team will thank you and make you feel like the God you are.

END GAME

End game is very similar to middle game in where it cannot be pinpointed when it begins, but there are indications to point out that the game is wrapping up. These are:
- At least 4 towers have been taken down.
- A phoenix has been destroyed.
- Team fights consisting of all members from each team are occurring.
- The FIRE GIANT is being killed.
- You've maxed your build out and are buying health potions and damage/protection potions.
Typically, if 2-3 of the above events are occurring frequently, then it's safe to say you are now entering into the end game.

If you see 4 or more towers down on either team, then it's a safe bet that end game is about start or already has. If that many towers have been pushed down, then it means your team or the opposing team is strong enough or had enough time to have pushed an entire lane. Remember, if 4 towers are down that means 2 are down in at least 1 lane which means the phoenix is next to be damaged. If the phoenix is being taken down, then fire minions are being sent down the lane which obliterate the normal minion waves; meaning they well reach the Titan and begin to chip his health away. If these events are occurring, then it's safe to say the game is almost over.

Another way to tell if you're in end game is if the FIRE GIANT has been killed. Typically, it takes 2-5 Gods to take down the FIRE GIANT. The FIRE GIANT is much stronger than the Golden Fury, so Gods have to be a higher level with much better quality gear to annihilate it. If you are able to take down the FIRE GIANT, then it can be said you're in end game or starting to go into end game, especially once you receive the FIRE GIANT buff which will make your team extremely leathal!

Also, if you have enough gold to have finished your build and you're now spending them on health potions or damage/protection potions, then it can be assumed the game is almost over because it takes quite a bit of time to acquire that much gold. Your game is either being turtled or is almost over. Either way the game is now in end game. There are several important factors to take in account while playing Ymir during end game.
- You are the meat shield. Go charge in!
- You better be accurate because everything counts now!
- Be aware of your surroundings. Going off by yourself isn't a good idea.
During end game, Ymir is going to be the God to LEROOOOOOOOOY JENKINS! This means that if a minion wave hasn't caught up to the tower or phoenix your team is about to pummel, then it will be expected of you to pull up your ice and take the beating like the giant popsicle that you are. Also, you may see a group of Gods smaller than your party you're running with, then you better be running full speed into them. You are the meat shield with loads of health and protection. In many cases, the enemy gods will try to run off, but you possess the abilities to stop that.

It is crucial that you've gotten a grip on Ymir's abilities by this point in the game. Especially, Ice Wall and Frost Breath. No one cares if you land Glacial Strike or Shards of Ice, but if you screw up the aforementioned abilities, then your allies are going to be disgruntled. Ice Wall is your perfect tool from letting enemy gods Flutter away and by end game it will last 6 seconds which means you team has plenty of time to nuke them. Frost Breath is probably more important to land than Ice Wall because Ice Wall only interferes with the enemy god's path, which they can jump, leap, or sometimes maneuver around in time, but a Frost Breath keeps them in place for over 2 seconds which is even more deadly.

Finally, do not go off and roam by yourself. I see many players do this because they think they are, quote, "pro". No, they are just arrogant idiots. I do not save arrogant idiots. They deserve to die. Always play smart and safe. Running together in packs is always a better idea, especially for Ymir. You don't put out as much damage as other Gods typically, but you lock down enemies for long periods of time for your allies. I assure you the other team is going to be running around as squads of 3 or more, so if you're running by yourself you are more than likely going to get ganked, killed, and be out of the game for 30+ seconds waiting to resurrect.

WARDING

Honestly, during the end game warding becomes open to the whole map. Ward areas you deem to be highly valuable like FIRE GIANT or Golden Fury. Ganks are less likely to happen at the very end of the game. Most fighting happens right at phoenixes or in middle lane. It doesn't hurt to drop a ward here and there, but priority needs to shift to pushing the Titan.

Roaming & Ganking

Roaming could simply be defined as the act of moving between lanes, through the jungle, to take out certain buff camps and to assist other lanes. However, ganking could simply be defined as a surprise, coordinated attack on the enemy. The two are quite different, but typically go hand-in-hand. These two actions make up the primary role of a jungler, but as the game progresses, typically starting at middle game, other Gods, beside the jungler, will need to roam and support teammates while occasionally ganking.

For any God, roaming is discretional. There are times to roam and gank; there are times when you need to lane and defend. This intuition of when and when not comes with experience, so don't beat yourself up over it.

As , I recommend not going off to roam until you at least have your ultimate, unless a teammate is roaming alongside of you. I recommend this because typically you're going to be in duo/long lane which means you are going to level the slowest because you are splitting experience with your laning partner while everyone else is rarely splitting experience. So, if you go off on your own you will typically run into someone who is of a higher level and because has the second lowest base speed in the game you will probably not be able to out run them, so having your ultimate is like a cactus having needles; it's your self-defense in tough situations.

For the purpose of this section we will use the diagram to the right. The teams will be divided up as Team Blue and Team Red. The Blue will be part of Team Blue and the Cacodemon will be part of Team Red.

TEAM BLUE

When you're roaming as you are doing so to support other lanes. This could be to defend a tower while your ally backs to grab some items or to come in from behind and assist with a gank. Do not worry about nabbing jungle camps unless you are grabbing one for yourself or helping an ally clear the jungle camp faster. This is because you do not want to mess up a jungler's rotation. They might be anticipating certain camps for experience.

On the diagram to the right you see a path for Blue which shows how to navigate through the jungle in a way that both puts you in a nice position for ganking and for roaming through with stealth. The sky blue circle, near Team Red's first middle tower, is a key point in assisting middle lane allies with ganking the opposing middle lane members. This is because you are now behind the enemy and can before they can react. Make sure to call out a gank ahead of time for your ally (using VG#). This way you can pin the God and secure the kill.

If you are roaming over to support solo/short lane, then use the same path, but cut behind the middle enemy, so you aren't detected. If you are going over to solo/short lane, then there are two key points to gank. You can sneak in at the entrance of their first tower like you did at middle, which is represented with a dark blue circle. I recommend this point if they are between their tower and the middle of the lane. This point allows you to make sure you get behind the enemy unseen.

However, if the enemy in solo/short lane is between your ally's tower and middle lane, then you can enter into gank at the purple circle. I recommend this because if you come in from dark blue circle, then it's going to take you longer to pin the enemy and can possibly give you away.

TEAM RED

When you're roaming as you are doing so to support other lanes. This could be to defend a tower while your ally backs to grab some items or to come in from behind and assist with a gank. Do not worry about nabbing jungle camps unless you are grabbing one for yourself or helping an ally clear the jungle camp faster. This is because you do not want to mess up a jungler's rotation. They might be anticipating certain camps for experience.

On the diagram to the right you see a path for Cacodemon which shows how to navigate through the jungle in a way that both puts you in a nice position for ganking and for roaming through with stealth. The light pink circle, near Team Blue's first middle tower, is a key point in assisting middle lane allies with ganking the opposing middle lane members. This is because you are now behind the enemy and can before they can react. Make sure to call out a gank ahead of time for your ally (using VG#). This way you can pin the God and secure the kill.

If you are roaming over to support solo/short lane, then use the same path, but cut behind the middle enemy, so you aren't detected. If you are going over to solo/short lane, then there are two key points to gank. You can sneak in at the entrance of their first tower like you did at middle, which is represented with a dark red circle. I recommend this point if they are between their tower and the middle of the lane. This point allows you to make sure you get behind the enemy unseen.

However, if the enemy in solo/short lane is between your ally's tower and middle lane, then you can enter into gank at the purple circle. I recommend this because if you come in from dark red circle, then it's going to take you longer to pin the enemy and can possibly give you away.

Lions, and Tigers, and Bears!

The jungle can be a dangerous place if you wander in not knowing what to expect, then you're good as dead. The jungle is the area between two lanes. It's littered with furies, cyclops, and a Fire Giant. These are jungle camps and are typically farmed by the jungler on your team, but can be picked up by anyone. Here is a simple layout of the jungle camps along with descriptions of each buff:

FURY CAMPS

Spawns: 0:10
Respawns: 1:40
Difficulty: Easy

MID FURY CAMPS

Spawns: 0:10
Respawns: 2:00
Difficulty: Easy

BUFF CAMPS

Spawns: 0:10
Respawns: 2:40
Difficulty: Easy/Medium

GOLD FURY

Spawns: 0:10
Respawns: 3:00
Difficulty: Hard

FIRE GIANT

Spawns: 10:00
Respawns: 3:00
Difficulty: Very Hard

The jungle should be traveled through carefully. Being in duo/long lane, as , means you will most likely be the lowest level on the team (remember you will be giving last hit experience to your ADC). You can avoid danger by having wards placed in the jungle. You can take a look at places I suggest here. Be sure to keep , if you purchase it, leveled higher than your opponent's, if one has it, so you can see their wards and destroy them making it safer for you to cross jungle paths without being easily detected.

It's always a good idea to traverse the jungle with an ally. is bulky enough to survive a bout with an enemy (for so long), but towards the end game there will be team fights which occur, generally, in three areas:

In lanes where towers are left - At the end game, 1 or 2 lanes might have 1 more tower up. Most strategies will be to push the tower, so they can damage the lane's phoenix and weaken the Titan. There are two ways to go about this:
- 5-man Stampede - All of your team rushes a tower (this is where you, Ymir, would typically run under the tower first and take the damage for your team) and quickly destroys the tower.
- Split Push - This is where 1, maybe 2, teammate(s) goes off from the group and pushes a lane by him/herself and the 4 other teammates are a distraction to the enemy, so the ally who veered off can take a tower down while the enemy is distracted by the other 4 allies. It helps if the 4 allies are pushing a lane with a tower in it or are trying to harass a phoenix.
Typically, if a team uses a 5-man stampede strategy, then they are asking to start a team fight. If all members of a team are located in one area and the tower's health starts to drop, then the enemy team is going to converge on that area. This will begin a team fight. Using a split-push strategy will reduce the chance of a team fight, but the ally who split from the group runs risk of dying more easily since he/she will be by him/herself.
Middle lane - Middle lane is a key lane. I believe it's the backbone of the map and the collapse of the middle lane can be detrimental to the game itself. Losing the middle lane basically makes one large jungle separating duo/long lane from solo/short lane. This is not good to say the least. However, many team fights occur in middle lane around the time of middle game and into end game. It's a centralized lane that as I've said is key to the game. It's only natural to defend this lane with more concern than the others, so many team fights occur here.
The Jungle - This is where the most team fights occur. This due to many things:
- The right conditions - The jungle is great for team fights. The lanes are narrow for abilities to lane more easily. Also, trapping an enemy is easier than in a larger lane with towers.
- Gold Fury/Fire Giant - These are camps that both teams are vying for. They are game changers and should be warded and watched. Many times, teams will fight one another in an attempt to gain that camp (typically Fire Giant more than Gold Fury).
The jungle team fights occur as early as when minions start spawning. I've been in situations where one team tries to gank the other team while waiting for a jungle camp to spawn. The jungle is a great place for team fights to take place.

Be careful while roaming through the jungle by yourself. It can be a dangerous place and you will be of no use to the team when you're dead.

Laning Partner C-C-Combo

Cooperation rating guidelines

The laning partner combo ratings are based on personal experiences and should be taken at face value. If you feel a God is in the incorrect place, then leave a comment below detailing why they should be upgraded or downgraded. Please provide data, if possible, to back your claim up. Thank you!

The ratings are as followed, in descending order:

EXCELLENT
GREAT
GOOD
MODERATE
TERRIBLE

Here is a basic guideline into how each God fell into each category:
EXCELLENT:

This God proved phenomenal in all aspects, which include damage, escapibility, pair-effectiveness, and much more.
This God has little to no weaknesses and doesn't have to be watched over constantly.
This God allows even the most novice user to dominate (playability).

GREAT:

This God is above average in all aspects.
This God has hardly any weaknesses which can be negated with purchasable items.
This God can handle themselves most of the time, but still are vulnerable if complacent.
This God takes little to no time to pick up and use.

GOOD:

This God is well-rounded in all aspects.
This God has weaknesses, but purchasable items along with good teamwork can cover this up (the whole is greater than the parts).
You, Ymir, will need to keep a watchful eye out for your ally.
This God takes a moderate amount of time to master.

MODERATE:

This God excels in some aspects, but lacks in others.
This God has definitive weaknesses, which purchasable items hardly make up for. Ymir will have to compensate greatly for this.
This God needs to be babysat or will be over powered by enemies, quickly.
This God takes a moderate time and higher level of skill to master.

TERRIBLE:

This God is mediocre in all aspects.
This God has many weaknesses which outnumber its strengths. Even an EXCELLENT Ymir will have difficulty pulling the slack.
This God should not be left alone. It is nothing more than an easy target; even under towers.
This God takes a large amount of time, effort and skill to fully master.

These are nothing more than guidelines on which I based my opinions on, plus personal experiences I found to have with these laning partners in-game. Enjoy!

ah muzen cab - The chilling sting

Ah Muzen Cab
COOPERATION
GOOD

, The God of Bees, is a great ranged ADC pick. His passive, , is a great DoT, but setting up to infect enemies is very mana draining. For the passive to work, your ally must land , use a directly over while the enemy is near the , use on them while a is connected to the , or land their ultimate, .

has great lane clear with , so you can save your in most cases, but since he's using it for lane clear, then the enemy can easily evade and not get infected with . He also has great attack speed, especially if a is nearby; which a network of hives should be in place for your ally to be effective. This attack speed comes in handy when going in for kills. Once uses his abilities it is then all down to landing basics (early game, anyway).

+ Tips & Tricks +

Landing is about all you need to do as . Landing the opens up many options for like:

Frost Breath + Honey + Swarm
Frost Breath + Swarm (this is a decent combo if the enemy is already low.)
Frost Breath + Stinger

is another move that will be effective in this combo, but serves the same purpose as , which is to contain the enemy.

Laning Cooperation

and pair up quite nicely. As long as you can land the simplistic skill cone of , then you'll be in a nice position. There are only two issues I have when laning with . One, he is more mana hungry than . He's dropping , , and quite often and has terrible mana regen. Make sure you are getting the mana buff camp for him or you'll quickly see that all he will be able to do is basic attacks or have to back time and time again. Two, s are essential to and are easily destroyed. Make sure your bumblebee is placing them in efficient spots or he'll just be eating up his mana.

Anhur - Frozen Kebabs

anubis - death's cold grip

Anubis
COOPERATION
MODERATE

, God of the Dead, is a decent ranged mage to lane with . His abilities are quite strong and lethal. His arsenal of CC and stun are measurable to 's. Combining these two forces will lead to a strong amount of control in the lane.

is the poster child for glass cannons. He packs quite a punch, but is quite squishy. Your team composition has a large amount of control, so you can protect him. Although, once an enemy gets a hold of , you could be in a bad situation since he does not have an escape. 's becomes 's best friend. Typically, is needed to hold targets in place while nukes their health, but can hold down enemies while focuses on damage.

+ Tips & Tricks +

When laning with , your task becomes a bit more stressful. Your role as a guardian becomes more apparent because I find myself trying to take hits instead of taking them. However, even though the early game is pathetic at best, your middle game will be quite strong. Landing the opens up many strong options for like:

Allow Anubis to initiate with Mummify. Doing so places a stack of Sorrow onto the enemy and then Anubis should follow up with Grasping Hands + Plague of Locusts. You will need to Frost Breath when Mummify ends to ensure the enemy takes the maximum amount of damage.
Force your enemy(ies) to use their escape, then Frost Breath + Shards of Ice. At the same time, Anubis should Grasping Hands + Death Gaze. Mummify is overkill and should be saved for cleaning up any enemy lane members who escaped with sliver of health. (call this combo shards of death).
Most successful kills with this combo will result from you, Ymir, timing your Frost Breath as Mummify ends. This ensures a longer stun and from the enemy using an escape as soon as Mummify ends.

Laning Cooperation

and are a lethal combo, but typically mages in duo lane are at more risk of dying. When a mage solo or mids they are facing one enemy with possibility of the enemy jungler coming in for a gank, but when a mage comes into duo lane there are two enemies and the possibility of a jungler gank raises that number to 3. Mages typically aren't bulky and drop health quickly when being engaged.

I typically don't trust anyone in casual gameplay; this rule is especially true when I play with friends. With power comes blindness to your weakness. I find laning with squishy mages, especially ones without escape, like , more work than I want. When playing with an average ADC you aren't as worried because they have a bit more protection, but is squishy...like playdoh! I find myself trying to body block attacks more often and worrying whether a teammate is going to back or retreat is to much stress. Stress level increases based on their confidence. (Nothing wrong with confidence; everything is good...in moderation).

Ao Kuang - The frigid Storm

Ao Kuang
COOPERATION
GOOD

graceful winds

squallslither

tornadoesspirit's tempest

, Dragon King of the Eastern Seas, is an amazing ranged mage. His abilities are quite a force to be reckoned with. His lane clear is hands down the best I've seen (and used). tornadoes' DoT hits at a minimum of 6 times. graceful wind only increases the power of this DoT, so by the time is level 5, he will have a level 3 version of tornadoes; let the havoc begin! With 's control and 's destructiveness, enemies will be blown away!

suffers from the same debilitating disease and other mages suffer from: squishiness. However, has a decent escape ability, slither and can use tornadoes to block an incoming enemy, not to mention spirit's tempest can be used in combination with tornadoes when is fleeing. This little reptile packs quite the punch even when he's on the lam. He packs quite a punch when he isn't escaping as well. Your team composition has a large amount lane control. This is a bit different from control in general. Being able to control the fight typically means having the enemy locked down due to CC, but between tornadoes, , and spirit's tempest there isn't much room to wiggle around in for the enemy; making the enemy easy prey. Although, once an enemy gets a hold of , you could be in a bad situation since he still is quite squishy.

+ Tips & Tricks +

is a better of evils when dealing with squishy mages as a laning partner. He has escapability, but two enemies focusing down a squishy mage can prove to be deadly. Make sure he plays confidently, but not stupidly. Landing the opens up many strong options for like:

Frost Breath + spirit's tempest (Combo to ensure ultimate lands. Insert other abilities at your discretion).
Frost Breath + squall + Shards of Ice (spirit's tempest should be thrown in somewhere, but this is mainly to land Shards of Ice).
Frost Breath/ Glacial Strike/ Ice Wall + tornadoes (any combination of Ymir's abilities with tornadoes is OP)!

Laning Cooperation

and are a lethal combo, but typically mages in duo lane are at more risk of dying. When a mage solo or mids they are facing one enemy with possibility of the enemy jungler coming in for a gank, but when a mage comes into duo lane there are two enemies and the possibility of a jungler gank raises that number to 3. Mages typically aren't bulky and drop health quickly when being engaged.

I typically don't trust anyone in casual gameplay; this rule is especially true when I play with friends. With power comes blindness to your weakness. However, is an easier mage to lane with due to his escapability. Nonetheless, you will still find yourself trying to peel enemies off him. If I played against in my lane I would paint a target on his back, so I expect my enemies to do the same to my ally.

Apollo - The Cold-Hearted Gunslinger

Apollo
COOPERATION
GOOD

, God of Music, is an exceptionally, powerful carry; able to harass effectively and deal tons of damage in both short bursts and extended fights. His excels both offensively and defensively, with a short-range AoE CC, , an escape/initiate, , and a global ultimate, , however this move does have an Achilles' heel, it drains the user's mana rapidly. will benefit greatly from .

is squishy compared to the other ADCs because he has the lowest magical protection boost per level (only gaining 2.7 per level). Be aware towards mid game that he will progressively take more damage than other ADCs. However, has a decent escape ability, and can be also used as an initiate. knocks up the enemy giving time to come in and .

's abilities are decent, but what stands out the most is his passive, . This passive comes in handy early game. Being able to pew pew quickly in the early levels is a huge advantage. Minions already do a decent amount of damage, so setting your up to pew pew by using will surely secure a kill or put them in a position to back to base.

+ Tips & Tricks +

is the squishiest of all ADCs and needs a bit more of a babysitter than the others. He has escapability and gives him additional protection[/color], but the CDs on his abilities match 's; once his moves are used he is going to be in a pickle, be there to help. Landing the opens up many strong options for though, like:

Frost Breath + Audacity (This pew pew combo at early levels will get you the feed to stay ahead in your lane).
Frost Breath + Across The Sky (I see many Apollos miss this ability, it already consumes a large amount of mana, so the least you can do is make sure it lands).

Laning Cooperation

and are decent together, their synergy is lacking due to their kits. has a lane clear, stun, and an escape. 's CC and stun kit go with just about anyone, but just doesn't fit the bill. is useless when paired with . The stun breaks after being hit. Only usefulness is possibly for escape or letting a terrible land a .

The only reason still has a good laning cooperation grade and not a moderate is because + , followed up by 's CC is godly, pun intended!

artemis - The frozen bullseye

Artemis
COOPERATION
GOOD

transgressors fate

, Goddess of the Hunt, is a scaled carry. Which means, her early and mid game scale less, but scales greatly in the end game. Nonetheless, she is still powerful in early and mid game if her ally, (you), is a great player. , hands down, is the greatest ADC ability in game. Typically, takes priority over , but even at level 1 it provides a 35% attack speed buff. (Talk about pew pew). Pair all of that with enemies who are being held down by you, , and you will crush your lane.

does lack some "umph" though. Her passive is almost useless in the early game. only increases the critical chance by 15%, max. This seems great, but mathematically only 1 in 7 shots are going to crit. This passive does become better late game when 's build is more complete with items that possess critical chance like, . The passive will stack, but until then I feel it's quite useless. Also, with the recent patch, transgressors fate has been nerfed by not showing enemies that pass by it. However, she makes up for this with CC. A skilled can drop transgressors fate right on the enemy after a well timed . This places the enemy in a bad position because you don't want to be held down when facing an making quite the partner.

+ Tips & Tricks +

is a difficult ADC to use effectively. Anyone can pick her up and pew pew with her, but her skill kit is tougher to use than that of . As , your job is to support her and help her stick some arrows into Gods. Landing the opens up many strong options for though, like:

Frost Breath + Vengeful Assault (Most basic combo; if she can transgressors fate while they're frozen, then both of you can attack while the enemy is held down).
Calydonian Boar + Frost Breath + Shards of Ice ( Artemis can lay down transgressors fate to ensure damage from Shards of Ice lands or she can just pew pew with Vengeful Assault).

Laning Cooperation

and are decent together. She relies heavily on locking down the enemy with CC and stuns, then basic attacking, preferably with . is capable of locking down the enemy for her, but I feel she lacks her category compared to other ADCs. Her attack speed and basic attack scale are all outmatched by who has just enough CC and burst plus more than . was a terrific ADC in her day, but lately the newer ADC Gods are outclassing her. and can win against and , but the team will have to work harder, imo.

cupid - Love's cold bite

freya - The Valkyrie's Chilling Embrace

Freya
COOPERATION
GOOD

, Queen of the Valkyries, is a wonderful melee-ranged mage. is unique because she is melee, but allows her basic to become ranged and AoE, while slowing the enemy. Possibly, the best buff to a basic attack. She becomes a powerhouse when her enemies are stunned or are moving at a slow pace as to allow her to land basics far easier. is a God when it comes to this!

's passive, , is amazing. can clear a wave of minions when the ability is at level 3. This can bring a low health back up to full. is a powerful boost to 's basic, but when combined with the basic will lose it's slow and AoE capability. is a great move to allow you, , to catch up to a distant target to them.

+ Tips & Tricks +

has a pretty standard build, like building a or . Your ally should be able to hold well on their own. is a force to be reckoned with, but landing the opens up many strong options for like:

Frost Breath + Pulse (Typical combo; enemy will have a hard time escaping due to the slow of Pulse. I recommend following up with Glacial Strike).
Frost Breath + Valkyrie's Discretion ( Freya only gets 4 attacks, so containing the enemy is crucial for maximum damage to be dealt).
Banish + Shards of Ice (As soon as the enemy goes up, cast Shards of Ice. By the time they land, the ability will go off. Freya should be using Pulse or Valkyrie's Discretion if they are not going to die).

Laning Cooperation

and are great together! Even though and are big auto-attackers, excels beyond with her lethal kit. 's utilization, I feel, surpasses and places as a better laning partner. can escape using or , but I feel these escapes are mediocre at best. This fearsome duo is amazing! Try it out!

neith - the weaving of a cold fate

Neith
COOPERATION
GREAT

, Weaver of Fate, is one of the greatest ADCs to work with . Her power is noticeable within the ADCs. Her sheer force is powered by the fact that she is one of the easiest ADCs to perform with. is a powerhouse with stuns, AoE, healing, and escapability. Also, her ultimate, , can hit anyone on the map...from anywhere. Her utility is just amazing!

's passive, , is possibly her worst and best feature. There are only two ways to drop a weave.

using Backflip.
Killing an enemy.

Both of which are easy to accomplish; however, the weave only lasts for one minute or until used. The weaves increase the features of her abilities. I would say is the best use of the weave because it makes the ability become AoE and root all enemies in the AoE, also, the ability does 100% more damage. If your partner decides to use it on , then they will heal for more health. Which is wonderful about might I add. Her healing ability, , is the quickest healing ability an ADC has. ('s takes to much time to collect 3 hearts). The most under used part of the broken weaves is when she uses all the weaves detonate and do damage to nearby players. This can be difficult to align, so don't expect your to utilize this portion of her passive perfectly.

+ Tips & Tricks +

is a formidable foe who can handle herself, but adding the chilling prowess of makes her a deadly archer. is a force to be reckoned with, but landing the opens up many strong options for like:

Spirit Arrow + Frost Breath (I recommend this order because it will be easier for your Neith to focus on basic attacks if she lands her stun first. This is because typically if you are performing a combo, you are worrying about what ability you must land next. It's better for Ymir to miss out on basic attacks and worry about landing Frost Breath than Neith).
Frost Breath + Shards of Ice + World Weaver ( World Weaver should be used to keep the enemy within the confines of Shards of Ice's AoE).

Laning Cooperation

and are AMAZING together! Her skill kit is almost to good. Giving a single god the ability to escape, heal, stun, and perform excessive amounts of damage is almost unbelievable. Her can also be used to pin two enemies between you, , and her by reverse ing. I could go on and on about how lethal is, but hopefully Hi-rez won't see this or the may nerf her! This combination only fails if skill is lacking in the player!

xbalanque - The chill of night

Xbalanque
COOPERATION
GOOD

, Hidden Jaguar Sun, is a powerful ADC. His passive, , allows him to gain 30 extra physical power, permanently. This is like a mini-version of the damage buff found in the jungle, but the buff is with all the time. I find to be quite a powerful ally, but I find when you lane with him that you have to insert abilities with good judgements. is pretty self-reliant and all his abilities flow together. His does more damage when are already on the enemy. Also, basic attacks do more damage plus his attack speed is increased while is active; combining his ultimate and make fearsome, but you, were not needed anywhere. These combos happen rapidly and need little to no stun or CC. Heck, his already slow the target.

This doesn't mean you won't be an asset to , but you need to use your abilities correctly and efficiently when working with him. I find most time that all I need to do is . You can and where it's needed, but this feisty jaguar will be doing most of the work for your lane.

+ Tips & Tricks +

Though hardly needs any assistance, a well-versed can bring even more kills to the table. Landing the opens up many strong options for like:

Frost Breath + Shards of Ice + posion darts + Rising Jaguar (consider the enemy dead).

Laning Cooperation

and are great together, but lets make sure it's clear that is pulling the weight in this relationship. I'm not a fan of this, but it happens in some lane combos. Typically, I find to be an asset who can pull all of his bulky weight, but it goes without saying that is just a powerful God. Any lane should be cautious when taking on . Especially if he's laning with a God like , who will hold you down for what feels like a lifetime!

FAQ

Frequently Asked Questions

Recently, I've been asked questions through private messaging and in-game chats (hit me up, my IGN is Sanguis) about the same things and I want to clear a few things up for future viewers.

Q: Is the best tank pick?

// This is quite a vague question. If you're asking if he's the best initiator, then I would say no. Each God has their own unique style and kit. happens to have a kit that revolves around CC and stun support. I find this to be useful in both casual and league. Find what play style you fit into and then, select not the "best" god, but the God you are best with.

Q: Can I use information from your guide and/or BCCode formatting for my guide?

// Yes, absolutely. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I have no problems with you or anyone taking information or ideas you garnered from this guide and putting them into your own guide. All I ask is that you credit me as I do with all those who've made this guide possible. However, if you are specifically looking to create a format that you see in one of the sections, then send me a message and I will gladly help out! One more thing! If you are pondering where I got all these insane colors, then check out this website!

What's Next!?

I have further parts to this guide I would like to add, but do not possess enough data and information I deem to make those parts effective yet, but do not fear they are being worked on as we speak! Here are some things that are being prepared:

Solo Laning
Jungling
Enemy Gods you will encounter in duo/long lane.
In-depth Videos to Give a Better Perspective (Possibly starting a twitch account! Keep a lookout!)
Arena and 3v3 Gameplay sections
More laning partner combos

If you have any suggestions on what you would like to see in this guide, then please leave a suggestion in the comments below! Thanks!

Credits

I fully believe in giving credit where credit is due. This guide was written from scratch, but it wouldn't be here without the help and advice from others!

THANK YOU:

Cupcakess - One of the greatest SMITE players I've had the fortune to team up with. She put up with some of the worst teams to collect data that would help sculpt this guide. If it wasn't for Cupcakess this guide would probably not exist!
Jhoijhoi - Is the Mother of Guide Making. This Goddess gave me the knowledge and know-how to create this wonderfully BBCoded guide. Coming into making this guide I had no experience with BBCode, but after taking a peek at her amazing guide (check it out!) I was able to sculpt something that even she would deem respectable!
TormentedTurnip - Turnip is one of the most constructive people on this website. If you need an opinion on something SMITE related or looking for some beginner tips to crafting a guide I would point you towards Turnip. I personally asked Turnip to take a look at this page and was quite pleased with the response. Members like Turnip make this community wonderful. Also, he's a great banner designer. He made the banner just down below! I think it's wonderful. Message him right now and get your order in before it's too late! Check Turnip out here.
Subzero008 - Sub is a wonderful, if at times brutal, person to talk about bettering your guides. Taking a peek at his guides and reviews has helped this Ymir guide become what it is. Please, go take a look at his page, now!
Piederman - While formulating ideas for how to structure certain sections I was talking to friends about different BBCode ideas and an idea came from Piederman! I didn't even notice that one of my friends told me a BBCode format from this amazing author's guide! I just want to point out his guides look just as fantastic! Take a peek here!

I take many things from this community. If you feel I've taken something and haven't credited you, then hit me up. Be aware that things you might have started might have been shared to me by the people above. It's not uncommon for guide makers to send new things to one another!

Conclusion

If you have stuck it out this long, then I appreciate your time at looking at this guide. I put quite a bit of effort into making it as perfect as possible. I feel perfection is always out of reach and anything can be polished. If you have any suggestions please leave them in the comments below! If your suggestion is later added in an updated guide you will be credited!

I hope you have fun with ! He is an amazing God to play and with the help of this guide I assure you that your success will improve! Thank you and stay tuned for updates!

Change Log

Update: 0.1.120413 Published: DECEMBER 4th, 2013

Update: 0.2.121813 published: DECEMBER 18th, 2013

Update: 0.3.012014 published: JANUARY 20th, 2014

Update: 0.4.020514 Published: FEBRUARY 5th, 2014

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Awesome guide you created here! +1 in my book.

BTW when you were discussing lane comp., for Xbal's skills instead of Branching Bolas you put Neith's Sprit Arrow skill.

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General Rule: If you are just scrolling to get to comments, then use the table of contents anchor to skip the sections.

I'm hoping you took the time to read the guide than just scrolling to get to the comments, but I assure you the non-white colors are necessary. I have a large amount of information to doll out and do not want it to be perceived as a wall of text. I was able to cut this down through the use of spoiler tabs, but to make sure the viewer's eye was drawn to certain key elements in what remained I had to use specific colors. As the reader ventures through the guide they will quickly become use to health topics being referred in green, magic/mana topics being referred in blue, and so on. I find the non-white colors contrast better with white than grey. This has a better "pull" effect on the viewer's eye.

The white is a unique quality I believe this guide only contains. Check every other guide out there. Heck, look at your Ra guide. Though I find it very informative, you highlight key words as I do, but everything else is in a bland-grey color. I think it looks boring and doesn't contrast well with Smitefire's background. You can't tell me the white doesn't stand out better. The contrast makes it easier to read and the words don't blend into the background. If your words just blend into the background, then it looks more like a wall of text (which we are trying to avoid).

I appreciate you taking the time to look at my guide, but critiquing the color is of no use to me and almost seems trollish. I would prefer criticism on content rather than aesthetics. Heck, saying that starting with is stupid would be of more use to me. Don't take this comment personally, I just felt you leaving a comment only on the color was quite ridiculous. You didn't mention whether or not the guide, informatively, was any good or if it was a complete waste of time for a reader. Please, for future guides, give something I can work with to better the guide informatively. Hit me with statistics, tell me I'm wrong!

Sincerely,
Sanguis

P.S. Your eyes my hurt because of the radiant light blasting down upon you (aka your profile picture).

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General rule: "If your eyes hurt scrolling through a guide to get to the comments, let it up on the colors". That certainly applies here.

Don't feel bad, it happens to most of us.

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Your build is decent. If a certain build works for you, then use it. You don't have to conform to some meta, but if you're going to highlight your unusual build, then you're going to need data to back it up for the skeptics out there.

Thank you for your time! If you need any help just shoot me a PM!

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Wow! this guide is amazing! you did a great job and put a lot of time in to it. I can't ever say that my guide will ever be this good but you have inspired me to take some time to improve my guide find a better build and explain things a lot better. Thanks for the feedback :)

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Great guide.

While i might disagree with some of the items, this is an all round good guide with beautiful BBcoding and really in depth.

Nice job.

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Thank you so much for you input! It's definitely difficult to see what's missing or minor flaws before the peer edit. I agree that blink is great and maybe I would buy it in more competitive game modes like ranked, but in casual conquest games there is a huge player base of people who do not ward, ever. It drives me insane. Maybe my experiences in casual games has made me this way.

I agree on now that you bring it up. I was always on the fence about it. Also, the topic you brought up is a good point. I may update the guide with multiple builds.

I agree can be telegraphed, but I also believe is as well. is my next most played god behind and just from playing him so much I can tell when that hunk of leather is about to . High quality players can mask the tell, but most of my data came from playing casual conquest. Maybe I will formulate something with blink to make him a better initiator or at least be on the same level as and .

Thank you once again! Great work as always!

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Here's my review.

Build

I find it interesting that you ask us to level up the actives before any other items. But yeah, it looks good. Items are rational. Your Ymir seems more like a magical bruiser than a true tank.

I have one problem: the inclusion of . As a support tank, unless you are mid or solo, you would not want, under any circumstances, to last hit a minion. The last hit far bonus should go to your carry not yourself. I find that the is more to my liking.

Items/Skills

You do a good job explaining the skill and items, and you go into much detail on the former.

I think you are underestimating blink a little, but I'll chalk that to personal taste. I also dislike the inclusion of , especially when is already an extremely good option. Or even .

Not much else to say. Pretty good.

Gameplay

You go into a frankly incredible amount of detail in this. I will state again, that I disagree with your suggestion of last hitting for , but there is a lot of useful information here.

One thing that is notably missing is the lack of a guide to roaming. When to roam, why leave your lane, avoiding enemy rotations, staying leveled, etc. Seeing how much emphasis you put on Ymir's "Surprise ganks," it seems odd to not include this.

The gameplay seems very defensive, which is fine by me. Personally, I like to roam solo late game as Ymir (my build has a lot of movement speed) for the sake of warding and stealing the occasional buff, and maybe for a gank on a splitpusher or two.

I disagree with your statement of Ymir being a good initiator. The problem is that Ymir's initiation is both telegraphed and slow. , with his , is a good initiator. Bacchus' is also very fast and can knock up teams, which also makes it a good initiator. Ymir, in my opinion, is neither fast nor unpredictable, and despite him having a greater form of CC than them, I think he is a worse initiator than them for those reasons.

Details

One annoyingly persistent problem: it's blink, not .

There are also a host of missing or erroneous details, like outdated information (speed on boots) or simply wrong info (you can't crit with Ymir's basics, ever).

But I will say that your BBC coding is gorgeous. You clearly put a lot of work into this, and I approve.

Summary

While I might disagree with some parts of this guide, I can see that you clearly put much effort into this. It is well polished and has very few flaws, and in my opinion, is worthy of an upvote.

I look forward to any updates.

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