Patch Note Spoils - 9/24/14

Seems like a great patch. Glad to hear they are listening to the community about matchmaking and other stuff like that.

I ccan find any images, and the pts isn't working for me.so can someone post a picture of the new hel recolor?

I thought odin was gonna suck ****, ya ya I told ya ya ya

Here you go

Thank you

A lot of items are worse than Sais, and I'm not disagreeing with the majority here. I still say Arachne is weak, but I acknowledge that she does have good things - you're calling 30% attack speed, 30 power and 30 power reduction for less than Asi a weak item. It's higher attack speed and equal power to the Executioner with a comparable passive but with a far cheaper cost - and even if you think that the Executioner is only an average item, the new item is on par with that, at least.

OB gives far worse stats than that new item but costs nearly double the gold - and instead of power reduction, you get possibly the worst passive in the game, with a weak effect - statistically, 7.5 + 12.5% of your physical power per autoattack. It sucks for waveclear, it sucks for AoE damage, it sucks for DPS, it has literally zero use, and no god can make use of it, and I have not once seen anyone in Smite use that item and do well with it. The only possible use is the raw attack speed you get - and even then, items like Hastened Fatalis or The Executioner give better results. The best candidate is Bakasura, but it doesn't apply on-hit effects, can't crit, and aside from his ultimate it contradicts the purpose of a single-target autoattacker, and even with his ultimate, it doesn't even do anything.

If the item sucks *** on the best possible god to use it, it's trash. It's not underpowered, it's not "really bad," it's trash. For the love of god, Sivir's Ricochet is possibly the worst ADC steroid in the game and its more reliable and deals more damage than OB.

I'm not calling you a troll because you're disagreeing with me, I'm calling you a troll for stating something that is pretty much the complete opposite of the expected opinion. It's like how most people argue about how a sunset is orange or scarlet or crimson - and you're calling it moss green.

Besides, this is hardly the first time you've given completely alien advice. You once said that ADCs can counterbuild Loki, with Hide of the Nemean Lion. You once said to level Sic 'Em first on Scylla.

I have a feeling that you either play a **** ton of League and zero Smite, and have confused the basic principles of both games, or are a troll. There is no Guardian Angel or Warmog's or whatever to get on ADCs. There's no point in leveling a harass skill over a waveclear skill in a game where everyone pushes blindly as hard as possible, where waveclear is king, where every mage clears easy as soon as they hit level 5. There's no point in pretending that Smite is anything even remotely close to League in any respect, and I mean that in the worst way possible.

I can see a future where this is a great Item for early game jungling. I honestly think its really good.

I'm literally done arguing with you. I've explained myself on several occasions and am met with only hostility. I don't dislike, I despise people who degrade others because opinions differ, especially when the other side has been nothing but benevolent.

Also, you refused to read my entire Scylla guide before trying it, and inevitably failing. Don't come to me with your failures. I also said Nemean lion among MANY other items to counter Loki, but NOT as my primary point. I stated it as a secondary to simple positioning, which you never take into account in Smite. You always think hard numbers matter and never actual skill or positioning.

I'm removing myself from this conversation. You can reply to it and I won't care, I'm legitimately leaving this toxic environment.

I don't know why you've seemed to seek out arguments with me recently, but I find it hurtful, and I don't feel like participating in these discussions that I've enjoyed so much anymore.

HEYYYYYYY...... Sivir's richochet gives you 80% attack speed and a 70% damage bounce :( it's one of the best for split pushing

You know OB is bad. BUT one way to fix it is give it 50% attack speed rather than 40%. That way, you'll have more power creep options. Instead of Asi, BF. Instead of Executioner, Jotun or Bane etc.