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by cLaw_eagLe updated February 26, 2021

Smite God: Kumbhakarna

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boogiebass (46) | October 24, 2020 2:34pm
Same comments as the one I made in your Cthulu guide.
Would also suggest listing the items mentioned in the comments below.
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cLaw_eagLe (2) | October 25, 2020 5:57am
Put there Pythags optionally. I don't know if I've done the right thing in relation to the comments here but I deleted all the other versions of the builds. The list went too far. I felt it looked like overwhelmed with options and one or two options I don't recommend anymore so I deleted them and simply updated the guide with what I am now using in ***bha too.
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Kriega1 (143) | June 2, 2020 4:35am
The build paths in these builds are pretty bad. Also in the “tanky build” you shouldn’t be building Tyrannical, it’s just not a good item.

Thebes if you’re going to build it, shouldn’t be built that late, ideally you build it after boots.

E.g Shoes > Thebes > Relic Dagger > Spirit Robe > Mantle > Deso/Estaff > sell boots for whatever.

Another example: Shoes > Thebes > Sovereignty > Void Stone > Pridwen > Mantle. Sell Shoes late for Estaff/Reaver or Divine/Deso.

Also kinda dissapointing that you call yourself a support main and you fail to mention the Hand of the Gods start which is important for 2 reasons. 1. Purple buff invades. 2. Reaching Duo lane in time to hit level 2 without minions dying.

The start for this is: Guardian’s Blessing , Hand of the Gods, 4 Healing Potions.
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cLaw_eagLe (2) | June 2, 2020 7:18am
Kriega I really respect your experience and this is coming at me like pretty aggressive man. Tyranical is my go to and pick after many experiments and a lot of games. You think it's not a good item, ok, your opinion. It's not ideal, but I don't think it's a bad item for that structure.

I know when you ideally build Thebes Kriega, and that's not even that ideal. You are pretty squishy at the beginning until you stack it, in that "ideally", traditional path. Thebes is a good item, whenever but not to late, for my opinion. There have been many people supporting Thebes even as a last item pick before replacing blessing or even replacing blessing with it if I remember correctly.

Thank you a lot for your proposals, personally I prefer Witchblade or Winged before relic dagger. It's all about character and what you like/feels better, and is actually more valuable/tried out in the field. If you pay attention, I chose that path in order to get damage online earlier. That's the point of the flat pen build, and to an extent of the Tanky build. For me Even the support must feel like he can hurt someone and have some fun while playing and fulfilling the guardian role at the same time.

I've expressed myself in other comments in relation to Void. I don't prefer Pridwen to have a place into my buid either. It's my opinion and experience: there are better items to have a place into my build than Void, EStaff, Pridwen. Thinking about it, just Void can be somewhat of a blessing replacement but you sacrifice health - so still indecisive about that.

Man that's harsh, it is my way to go out of the fountain: Chalice and 3 Mana Pots. I've found it the most sustainable and this has led me to better experiences. It's your choice if you want Hand of the Gods. I don't, I don't prefer it either. This is my way Kriega, no need to be pokey. You have helped me a lot in many different builds with your comments on them when I started, thank you.
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Kriega1 (143) | June 2, 2020 7:41am
cLaw_eagLe wrote:
It's not ideal, but I don't think it's a bad item for that structure.


It is because it's 2600 gold for a mediocre item.

cLaw_eagLe wrote:
There have been many people supporting Thebes even as a last item pick before replacing blessing or even replacing blessing with it if I remember correctly.


But it's rare. In a ranked match the ideal time to stack it is usually after boots cause you will typically be near the mid lane post-level 5 for a bit, that's if you're actually going to build the item at all and don't plan on skipping it (like the Sov and Oni's rush after boots).

cLaw_eagLe wrote:
personally I prefer Witchblade or Winged before relic dagger.


But those items are usually more situational, winged against heavy slows, witchblade against 2/3 + AA heavy character comps (or a AA jungler diving your backline like Kali/Baka). Relic Dagger is generally more applicable in matches.

cLaw_eagLe wrote:
That's the point of the flat pen build, and to an extent of the Tanky build. For me Even the support must feel like he can hurt someone and have some fun while playing and fulfilling the guardian role at the same time.


Going 1 or 2 damage/hybrid items on a support is fine, but it depends on how the build path is and what god you're playing. ***bha isn't like Terra who can get benefit more from damage in teamfight scenarios with her ult with the widespread application with the AoE.

cLaw_eagLe wrote:

Thinking about it, just Void can be somewhat of a blessing replacement but you sacrifice health - so still indecisive about that.


With the example I gave you get health from Thebes, Sov, Void Stone, which is over enough. Building too much health just makes Reaver and Heartseeker procs more effective, it's why stuff like damage mitigation from Spirit Robe/Oni Hunter's is valued, and Utility like Mantle of Discord passive in the lategame.

cLaw_eagLe wrote:
Man that's harsh, it is my way to go out of the fountain: Chalice and 3 Mana Pots. I've found it the most sustainable and this has led me to better experiences. It's your choice if you want Hand of the Gods. I don't, I don't prefer it either.


But you're sharing this build for other players to see, a mention of it would at least be useful, even if it's not your preference.


The main problem with your build is it seems to follow the same sort of path every match.

Lastly you hardly mention that many situational items, especially Spectral Armor with how common crit ADC builds are at the moment.
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Devampi (105) | June 2, 2020 1:28am
Just gonna say that I agree with your observation, without flat pen guardians are not as big of a threat. That's why a flat pen item in a solo/bruiser build can do wonders. Although I would recommend Divine Ruin. It's cheaper and doesn't delay your build as hard because of a supports gold income being lower. I would also myself probably swap thebes and spirit robe to get the stacks on thebes sooner.

I am also going to agree with the others that for a support I would not really bother with it as much, mostly because of my support playstyle. A support often tends to be "between" the back and frontline to help keep the back line alive and thus being at a non threatening distance. They rely on their backline and keeping them alive to win fights. That is why you normally don't find a lot of damage items on them.

But like I said that is the difference between going for a bruiser style support (or selfish support) and a tank support (non-selfish support as they need their team). You find the bruiser one suiting your needs better (which is visible in both builds) while I prefer a tank path.
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cLaw_eagLe (2) | June 2, 2020 7:36am
Divine can be viable but the spike on power with Deso I think is worth the wait and sacrifice. Forgot this one as well, finally you have good Minion Wave clear with it - Hallellujah for a support! That something CDR helps as well, especially when ***bha. I understand you, you could, I just feel putting up and early some protections online helps you while struggling to put that damage online, and keeps you somewhat tanky until Thebes stacks, but you could swap very well.

Well I would say, playing and the game has to be somewhat fun, even for the support guarding/defending and also hurting a bit. Otherwise sometimes the role knows to throw you some dullness. Make it Tanky and Make it Fun as well.

There is selfish support if you go deep damage and leave defense to be desired. The builds I feel get you tanky (in the first place, but also aura items there) and a bit damage, 'melting' to a very good extent especially the squishies - handing the kills to the team, and sometimes dealing the final blow. I've been careful to make it primarly tanky, for the team, I believe/felt it on the field. Just be careful until you stack Thebes. Thanks for your input Devampi.
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Devampi (105) | June 2, 2020 1:28pm
the early squishyness is always a problem when getting thebes as first prot item and I can see your preference for deso because of the cdr (damage wise you are talking a 30*scaling difference which is not that much imo).

Like I said it's all playstyle preference. I for instance prefer the supper tanky style with loads of control (usually gods like sobek, xing tian). I can have even more fun if my opponent forgets pen and I manage to outdamage them (I find this fun because I should not be allowed to do that and I lose this if I would go a damage route)
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boogiebass (46) | June 1, 2020 11:23am
I understand your thought process behind this, but the spear of deso pick up won't help you that much. You don't have enough power in the rest of your build to make the most out of that +15 pen.
The damage items on supports you should be going towards are void stone and ethereal staff (though I'm not too sure how good e staff is on ***ba).
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Kriega1 (143) | June 2, 2020 4:44am
You don’t need power to make use of Deso’s flat pen, Guardian’s have good base damage.

The problem I think is there are Guardian’s that make better use out of flat pen items like Terra.
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boogiebass (46) | June 2, 2020 10:04am
I'm trying to convince eagLe that if pen is all you want to go for, then get items like stone of binding or void stone.

Otherwise, just go full damage if all you care about it getting kills (not recommend)
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cLaw_eagLe (2) | June 2, 2020 7:22am
Thank you for your input on this Kriega.
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cLaw_eagLe (2) | June 1, 2020 12:17pm
I understand what you are saying. You can go like that and it caps you at Travelers (25), Void (40), EStaff (90) = 155 Power, with some %protections reductions (as to my knowledge a weaker stat against squishies than flat pen, and as to my experience not much difference overall). That %protection reduction is better against tanks but you don't have time nor interest to deal with them before dealing with the squishies, getting them first out of the picture as soon as possible, that's the play. Then take into account that these both items sacrifice you 2 item places from real tanky items, and that's not a small difference (compared with the difference in power of 155 of 2 items vs 135 with one item pen, which is not much of a difference - namely 20 power). Personally I've never had a good experience with Void from the standpoint of it's protections. There are better items for Void to occupy a place into your build. Kindda the same goes for EStaff.

Again I stress the point of having flat pen (especially against squishies). According to my readings and research into different forms of pen/%protections reduction/%damage reductions, I've found that flat pen is the main stat against squishies. From the shred they were taking, the stats, complaints,... no surprise they removed flat pen from Magis. And personally I feel there is enough power; Travelers (25), Spear (110) = 135 to leverage that pen. I have the other build there giving you 130 power (all mainly defensive items). Played a lot with that build but to my experience I saw I was able to deal much more damage with the flat pen build. I dare to say there is a great difference I felt on the battlefield. I feel there is only one downside to the flat pen build, be careful until you stack Gauntlet - maybe there, one can swap the places of Gauntlet with Midgardian. This is, I think, the only downside you should be careful to manage.
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Gulfwulf (81) | June 1, 2020 12:33pm
***bha can melt squishies without spear, though. I'm with Boogie in that staff and stone are better options. I would also throw in early Stone of Binding because he can process it with at least three of his abilities and it helps your whole team and not just you.
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boogiebass (46) | June 1, 2020 12:20pm
I see where you're coming from, but I think you're disregarding the passive on ethereal staff.
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Branmuffin17 (394) | June 1, 2020 11:25am
E-Staff is fine on ***bha.
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