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Loki (Solo and Jungle)

November 7, 2018 by Shinntaro
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Branmuffin17 (228) | November 10, 2018 12:57pm
I just want to make a clarification. We keep throwing out the term "troll," but my opinion on this might differ from others. Basically what Gulf below was getting at.

Troll, to me, is a complete "for funsies" build or just to straight up troll others. Building full damage on a tank, blasting past the MS cap just so you can run around, etc. Basically, troll is when the person knows what they're doing, and they're specifically building a certain way just to be fun, stupid, or both.

This Loki build, to me, isn't troll. Qin's makes it a bad build, since Loki never ever wants to just stick around and basic attack a god to death...but there are some other concepts that make sense here...e.g. they're getting Qin's, so at least they're also building Ninja instead of Warrior, to get more hits in. I'm not using this to say this build is okay, mind. It's still not a good choice.

Well...that's about it. This has 3 or 4 items that are core...Trans, Hydra's, Titan's, BF (optional). The other two are, again, poor options...Ninja vs. Warrior isn't honestly 100% terrible...20 power less isn't all that bad, and the increased mana at least goes a bit with the Trans passive, though it's of course only a weak +3 power contribution.

So "troll" in the sense of what troll really means? No. Not a good build though, no offense Shinntaro. You want Jotunn's for ult spamming, and Loki doesn't do that well with basic attacks, so Qin's isn't a good choice
Gulfwulf (25) | November 10, 2018 3:16pm
Does jungle Loki really need transcendence though? Also, solo Loki needs at least one defensive item to counter his opponent.
Branmuffin17 (228) | November 10, 2018 4:30pm
Solo loki hopefully doesn't even worry about his lane enemy. Drop his decoys, ease through laning, and get his build up to a point where he can easily out-push, and start rotating to gank and split push. One defensive item is last resort... It will always hurt his damage potential.

Jungle loki can still use trans,but he can perhaps delay it a bit. It still provides the key stats for him. High power, CDR, and mana. Mana because when he can clear quickly with Decoy, he will want to be dropping it almost as soon as it's off CD, for quick rotations. And he doesn't want to have to think twice about using vanish anytime if he wants to be safe, or worry about not being able to use his whole kit on a gank attempt without running out.

Basically, with every item, Loki wants to get as many of his core stats as possible. Those are typically power, pen, and CDR.

Trans: power & CDR (+ mana)
Warrior Tabi: power (& MS)
Jotunn's: power, pen, & CDR (trifecta)
Hydra's: power (+ burst, we agree Hydra's passive is key for his damage)

Crusher: power & pen
Brawler's: power & pen (+ anti-heal)
Titan's: power & pen

Any protection item will hurt one of those stats to some degree. Example bruiser items some other assassins might get include Void Shield and Ancile. However, we know that Void isn't preferable, because the aura will show up on an enemy player's screen when you're in range, and if they pay attention, they'll know you're close.

Ancile does have both power and CDR, but the power is lower than most other items...if you do find you really need magical protection, this is acceptable though.
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Kriega1 (42) | November 8, 2018 9:20am
Any Loki build with Ninja Tabi and Qin's Sais is a troll build.
Gulfwulf (25) | November 8, 2018 2:21pm
At least he didn't build crit.
Kriega1 (42) | November 8, 2018 3:00pm
At least that doesen't change the fact it's a troll build.
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