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First i go Lash, because it is the obvious choice. It is her most damaging ability, and it gives her lifesteal against creeps, meaning she has more sustain in the jungle |
Secondly i choose Incense. When you stun someone, you get a window of freedom, where you can pound your damage on your target. The extra scaling physical power you get from Inscense is very good, when you want to burst your enemy down. |
I choose Nimble Strike over Kali's ult, because, even though you upgrade her ult first, it's only gonna be 1 sec longer, and it's only gonna do 20 damage more per tick, even when it is fully upgraded. Nimble Strike is therefore better, because it is good for giving the killing blow on enemies, running away from you. |
This is an amazing tower diving ability, and also does a little bit of damage. The specs you get from upgrading Destruction, are not that great. Therefore, it is the last skill I personally upgrade. |
Qin's Sais is almost bugged on Kali i think. Because of her hit chain, it is crazy good, and this is an item you wanna rush on her. When this item is finished, you are gonna do some killing |
Hastened Fatalis is gonna make your hit chain faster and your movement awesome. It is gonna give your Qin's Sais hits, even more power. Hastened Fatalis also makes sure, you do NOT have to buy sprint on her, leaving an active slot open for beads. |
Heartseeker gives you movement, which is crucial. And it is also the item that gives the most physical power in the game, when fully stacked. It gives you power! |
People are going to disagree with me getting Warrior Tabi late, but I feel and i've found, that the other items are more important on Kali. |
Malice is when you will being to crit. This is were you will build up your insane hyper carriness, mix this with Deathbringer , and you've got yourself a crazy cocktail. |
Deathbringer is there to give you 50 extra physical power, and to give your crits extra damage, and more likeability to happen. |
!Note! Make sure to tell your team who your target is, so that they don't accidentely mean you die
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Thanks to Subzero008 for the review format. :D
Build
So the build. You have zero lifesteal. I know that this isn't necessarily required, but it is helpful. You can't always rely on your passive, nor is Bumba's Mask going to help you the entire time. Once you get in teamfights. Well Bumba's is useless. You have Hastened Fatalis it could very easily be replaced with Asi for the attack speed and lifesteal. On top of that you get a decent amount of penetration which your build lacks.
That's the second problem. You have 1 penetration item. I know your passive helps with penetration, but you still need penetration items. The Executioner is amazing on AA gods like Kali. However it would bring you over the Attack speed cap. So Titan's Bane could be used as well.
Now your build is extremely inflexible. Heartseeker is definitely a situational item and should not be bought every time. Add more situationals. The way you made it seem. Qin's Sais, Deathbringer, Malice, and Warrior Tabi are your core build. Now your other 2 slots should be a mixture of situational items. What if their team is all CC. Maybe throw in a magi's blessing? A lot of defense on their team? Maybe an extra penetration item. So on and so forth.
Item Descriptions
Some of them are okay, like the Qin's Sais description. However, none of them are great and some of them are awful. Explain exactly why you need to buy these items. Not "People are going to disagree with me getting Warrior Tabi late, but I feel and i've found, that the other items are more important on Kali."
Skills
I haven't played much Kali. However, I don't really agree on not upgrading your ult whenever you can. As far as your descriptions on them, you don't describe how to use each one. That's not really a good thing. All you explain is why you upgrade them when you do. You need to explain how and when to use them.
Gameplay
This part is lacking greatly. You don't say anything about the laning phase and taking camps when and why. You don't mention how to start the game. Your teamfight section doesn't tell me who to attack first to be most effective. The counters part tells me almost nothing. It tells me the problems, not the solutions. This needs major improvement.
General
You listed situationals in the pros and cons. This really rustles my Jimmies.
The BBcoding isn't bad, but could use a little work.
That's about all I have to say. I'm going to have to downvote this. I hope you can improve on it so that I can possibly upvote it later.;)
Again thank you Subzero008 for your review format. First time I've actually used it since I asked for it. xD
After your change, still don't agree with your skill numbering. I would start out with nimble strike if jungling for some sustain early game with the lifesteal and a handy dandy escape if you make a mistake. Then go lash/incense. I prefer maxing out incense for the nice buff after you pop it. And for most any god you should put a point in your ult whenever you can; 5,10,15, and 20. Instead of waiting for 17,18,19,20.
Even with changes, although a bit better, I find this guide lacking information and somewhat not good overall. Downvote for me :(. And gave you a rep for that Jordenito on point lol
Way wayyy to much attack speed. You'll be over the cap in no time if you buy Asi and Hastened Fatalis in the same build. I myself have a strict rule: Never get Asi and Hastened Fatalis in the same build. It's too much attack speed and you are missing on a lot of physical power with these two items. Additionally you put witch stone which I also think isn't a good idea if you get one/two of the above items.
eye of retaliation is more of a bruiser item than an Assassin item especially on Kali, who I'm pretty sure we can defy as a 'hyper-carry' (correct me if I'm wrong). Oh, and I just noticed you don't know this, but as of the recent Agni patch, eye of retaliation provides 40 physical power and 15 protections, while the passive grants you 20 physical power above 50% health and 20 protections when below 50% health. It's no longer a lifesteal item, and when it was, Bloodforge and devourer's gloves bested it every single time.
What about situational items?
Kali is a super-focused auto-attack god. You said it yourself. Than where are Malice & Deathbringer? For every auto-attack based carry, you need crit items.
I'm no Kali expert, but I think you should put a point into your ult whenever possible. The .25 seconds might not seem like much, but they sure do help, I can assure you. Needless to say, leveling her other skills isn't so useful because she is an AA based god. Lash is mainly for the early wave clear and sustain and Nimble Strike is for chasing and escaping. Incense is useful for the insane physical power bonus and the insane duration it has, but the stun doesn't scale.
The Pros and Cons are messed up. No, underrated isn't a pro, and she isn't underrated at all,. Just underplayed, that's all. Her general pros are her superb late game, her snowballing potential, her 1v1, sustain and her burst. Her general cons are her squishiness and her horrific early game. BTW, her damage overtime is one of the best in the game, because she is auto-attack based, she can constantly crit for 600 damage.
The items explanation is okay... though like I said, there's too much attack speed in your build. Also, Don't you think you should get Warrior Tabi earlier? I mean, sure Hastened Fatalis grants you some movement speed, but as a jungler, you should get shoes as first or second item. Needless to say, you are not Bakasura, you do not have high movement speed to begin with.
You don't put enough (if at all) emphasis on Kali's game phases. Unarguably, she has one of the terrifying late games. Up there with Chronos and Artemis. But, again, much like them, her early game is poor. She isn't worth sh!t early game.
This guide lacks overall. The build is bad, to say the least, the skill order, I don't agree with it... you don't explain much on how to play her, in team fights, her game phases... and it lacks some BBCoding.
A downvote from me. Sorry for the harsh criticism.
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Hey thanks for the comment! I tried to fix some of the things you were talking about, and I looked at the BBC code thread. I changed some stuff that I realise is better for Kali, and even though you made some suggestions regarding the skill points, I kept it the way it was, seeing as it is the best way IMO.
Thanks for the help :)
eye of retaliation is more of a bruiser item than an Assassin item especially on Kali, who I'm pretty sure we can defy as a 'hyper-carry' (correct me if I'm wrong). Oh, and I just noticed you don't know this, but as of the recent Agni patch, eye of retaliation provides 40 physical power and 15 protections, while the passive grants you 20 physical power above 50% health and 20 protections when below 50% health. It's no longer a lifesteal item, and when it was, Bloodforge and devourer's gloves bested it every single time.
What about situational items?
Kali is a super-focused auto-attack god. You said it yourself. Than where are Malice & Deathbringer? For every auto-attack based carry, you need crit items.
I'm no Kali expert, but I think you should put a point into your ult whenever possible. The .25 seconds might not seem like much, but they sure do help, I can assure you. Needless to say, leveling her other skills isn't so useful because she is an AA based god. Lash is mainly for the early wave clear and sustain and Nimble Strike is for chasing and escaping. Incense is useful for the insane physical power bonus and the insane duration it has, but the stun doesn't scale.
The Pros and Cons are messed up. No, underrated isn't a pro, and she isn't underrated at all,. Just underplayed, that's all. Her general pros are her superb late game, her snowballing potential, her 1v1, sustain and her burst. Her general cons are her squishiness and her horrific early game. BTW, her damage overtime is one of the best in the game, because she is auto-attack based, she can constantly crit for 600 damage.
The items explanation is okay... though like I said, there's too much attack speed in your build. Also, Don't you think you should get Warrior Tabi earlier? I mean, sure Hastened Fatalis grants you some movement speed, but as a jungler, you should get shoes as first or second item. Needless to say, you are not Bakasura, you do not have high movement speed to begin with.
You don't put enough (if at all) emphasis on Kali's game phases. Unarguably, she has one of the terrifying late games. Up there with Chronos and Artemis. But, again, much like them, her early game is poor. She isn't worth sh!t early game.
This guide lacks overall. The build is bad, to say the least, the skill order, I don't agree with it... you don't explain much on how to play her, in team fights, her game phases... and it lacks some BBCoding.
A downvote from me. Sorry for the harsh criticism.
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