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Discordia Conquest Mid (6.9)

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Smite God: Discordia

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Purchase Order

Start 1

Build Item Book of Souls Book of Souls
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion

Start 2

Build Item Mage's Blessing Mage's Blessing
Build Item Spellbook Spellbook
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion

Example Build 1 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Rod of Tahuti or alternative.

Build Item Book of Thoth Book of Thoth
Build Item Shoes of the Magi Shoes of the Magi
Build Item Divine Ruin Divine Ruin
Build Item Chronos' Pendant Chronos' Pendant
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver

Example Build 2 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Chronos' Pendant, Rod of Tahuti, Book of the Dead, Ethereal Staff or alternative.

Build Item Book of Thoth Book of Thoth
Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Divine Ruin Divine Ruin
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation

Example Build 3 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Chronos' Pendant, Book of the Dead, or Rod of Tahuti or alternative.

Build Item Book of Thoth Book of Thoth
Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff

Example Build 4 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Rod of Tahuti.

Build Item Book of Thoth Book of Thoth
Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation
Build Item Soul Gem Soul Gem
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver

Start 3

Build Item Mage's Blessing Mage's Blessing
Build Item Lost Artifact Lost Artifact
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion

Example Build 5 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Rod of Tahuti or alternative.

Build Item Shoes of the Magi Shoes of the Magi
Build Item Chronos' Pendant Chronos' Pendant
Build Item Soul Gem Soul Gem
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff

Example Build 6 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Rod of Tahuti, Ethereal Staff, or alternative.

Build Item Shoes of the Magi Shoes of the Magi
Build Item Chronos' Pendant Chronos' Pendant
Build Item Divine Ruin Divine Ruin
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Gem Soul Gem
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver

Example Build 7 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Rod of Tahuti or alternative.

Build Item Shoes of the Magi Shoes of the Magi
Build Item Chronos' Pendant Chronos' Pendant
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff

Start 4

Build Item Mage's Blessing Mage's Blessing
Build Item Magic Focus Magic Focus
Build Item Healing Potion Healing Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion

Example Build 8 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Staff of Myrddin or alternative.

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Divine Ruin Divine Ruin
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff

Example Build 9 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Staff of Myrddin or alternative.

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Rod of Tahuti Rod of Tahuti

Example Build 10 Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Spear of Desolation, Staff of Myrddin, Chronos' Pendant or alternative.

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Divine Ruin Divine Ruin
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Shaman's Ring Shaman's Ring
Build Item Rod of Tahuti Rod of Tahuti

Relics

Build Item Purification Beads Purification Beads
Build Item Aegis Amulet Aegis Amulet

Alternative Items

Build Item Bancroft's Talon Bancroft's Talon
Build Item Doom Orb Doom Orb
Build Item Dynasty Plate Helm Dynasty Plate Helm
Build Item Celestial Legion Helm Celestial Legion Helm
Build Item Staff of Myrddin Staff of Myrddin
Build Item Pythagorem's Piece Pythagorem's Piece
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Genji's Guard Genji's Guard
Build Item Stone of Fal Stone of Fal
Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor
Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Magi's Cloak Magi's Cloak
Build Item Hide of the Urchin Hide of the Urchin
Build Item Winged Blade Winged Blade
Build Item Midgardian Mail Midgardian Mail
Build Item Book of the Dead Book of the Dead

If you wish to sell boots lategame for another item

Build Item Elixir of Speed Elixir of Speed

Example Build 11 (Soul Gem/Divine Rush) Notes Sell boots lategame for Elixir of Speed and Staff of Myrddin, Ethereal Staff, Rod of Tahuti or alternative.

Start for this build: Mage's Blessing, Tiny Trinket, 2 Healing Potions and 2 Mana Potions.

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Soul Gem Soul Gem
Build Item Divine Ruin Divine Ruin
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation

Discordia's Skill Order

Unruly Magic

Unruly Magic

1 X
1 3 6 8 10
Strife

Strife

2 A
2 7 11 12 14
Erratic Behavior

Erratic Behavior

3 B
4 15 16 18 19
Golden Apple of Discord

Golden Apple of Discord

4 Y
5 9 13 17 20

Chapter Title

Mid builds.

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andreyz5z | July 17, 2019 11:16pm
In alternative items you suggest many variants of armor. After which item need collecting it?
And under what conditions it is necessary for collect magical alternatives like Stone of Fal, Dynasty Plate Helm, Celestial Legion Helm?
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Kriega1 (85) | July 18, 2019 4:22am
The earliest you would get a defensive item choice (except for Dynasty Plate Helm/ Celestial Legion Helm) is third item. The item slot you get it can vary depending on the item you're getting and how much you need it. The most common defensive choices if you need them are Mantle of Discord and Magi's Cloak, and they tend to be picked up at around 5th or 6th item or picked up as a boots replacement once you have speed elixir.

When to pick up Stone of Fal? When you're getting bursted by high magical damage from an enemy mage mid or magical jungler, and they haven't YET built Obsidian Shard. Stone of Fal becomes pretty mediocre once they do have Obsidian Shard which is why it's not a highly popular item (especially since the item's last passive rework). It does provide 70 power and 10% CDR so it's still ok stats wise for offense.

When to pick up Dynasty Plate Helm? When you're getting camped by a physical jungler in mid, and/or facing a hunter with high pressure in mid. You could rush into it early too (getting it after boots), starting for example: Mage's Blessing, Imperial Helmet and potions. Compared to Celestial Legion Helm it gives better offensive stats (as the pen on Dynasty is better than the slight extra power on Celestial), and is cheaper too. Celestial Legion Helm tends to be better as a more defensive choice, but it suffers against tick based physical damage like the passive from The Crusher and against gods like Ah Muzen Cab and Susano as they have some form of tick based damage which can quickly remove the passive stacks from Celestial Legion Helm, and since the item's last nerfs I think Dynasty Plate Helm is the better option. If you pick up Dynasty Plate Helm you do tend to sell it lategame for Mantle of Discord anyway (usually after you've sold your boots for speed elixir for another item).

IF you do need a protection item, you shouldn't get more than 1 defensive item in your build in most matches. In very specific situations (e.g. enemy team has 5 magical gods or 5 physical gods, you could possibly consider getting 2 protection items, preferably ones with hybrid function - so some form of offensive stat on them). Here's an example of a match where I went 2 magical protection items on Freya ADC because the enemy team had 5 guardians (so all magical enemy team): https://smite.guru/match/949564585 (Note that I had already sold boots as the game got late enough). That example is more of a thing where the enemy team decided to troll by picking 5 guardians, and it's very unlikely it will happen again soon, but im just giving it as an example for a very rare, specific situation.

If I had to give an example of a match where I built a protection item on Discordia , e.g. Shoes of the Magi, Chronos' Pendant, Divine Ruin, Obsidian Shard, Magi's Cloak, Soul Reaver, I may have picked up that Magi's Cloak 5th item in this hypothetical scenario because the enemy team had both a Da Ji and a Ares, or both a Fenrir and a Nox, or both Ne Zha and a Chronos, all of which have abilities that can try to get your CC immunity from Purification Beads, in turn allowing them to easily kill you when your Beads is on cooldown (especially since Discordia doesen't have a CC immune ult unlike some other mages like Scylla for example).

And in the case of Breastplate of Valor specifically, you can consider ignoring dynasty/celestial helm, and getting Breastplate of Valor if you're also building Book of Thoth since the mana from breastplate can contribute to Thoth's passive. However, I have mostly seen this combo from pros building it on Hel mid (sometimes other mages, but mostly Hel): https://smiteprobuilds.com/Builds?p_filters_page=1&p_filters_search=&p_filters_god=1718&p_filters_pro=~&p_filters_opponent=~&p_filters_role=Mid&p_filters_league=~&p_filters_sort=~

The point is you want to build as little protection as necessary on a mid mage, you only get a defensive item if you really need it to survive long enough to do your job. Certain defensive choices can be useful against different enemy team members (e.g. Mantle of Discord), while others may only be useful against specific ones (e.g. Stone of Fal). In some cases you won't even need to build protection items at all if you position yourself properly in teamfights, or you end up killing the person trying to kill you first, or you use your defensive relics properly etc...

If you still need help understanding when to pick up defensive choices, check out Zyrhoes, EmilZy, Prettyprime, Wlfy etc... on Twitch when they're streaming Smite and ask them in the chat.
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FootFetish (3) | July 16, 2019 7:35am
hello. I like the whole variety of builds you offer. In start 4 or 3 i don't really remember, you placed 4 pots so you're missing 50 gold (you should add a pot).
Also, i tried rushing tier 2 book, do you think that works with lacking mana sustain? i think start 2 is way better.
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Kriega1 (85) | July 16, 2019 7:51am
Start 3 you only need 4 pots anyway. 2 health pots is enough, and with the MP5 from mage’s blessing and lost artifact you only need 2 mana pots. When rushing tier 2 Book if you manage your mana properly you should be able to stay in lane long enough to be able to back and get tier 2 shoes, and perhaps an extra mana pot if you wish, you don’t actually tend to get tier 3 of Thoth until after getting your full boots.
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GT JFuzzyTBMS (1) | November 25, 2018 11:46am
Build 4 works great, thanks
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Kriega1 (85) | November 25, 2018 12:46pm
Just remember to switch to build 5 if you need anti-heal.
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