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Season 7 Joust: A Closer Look

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Do you play Joust? How do you like these changes?
It's my favorite mode, and I love the changes
It's my favorite mode, and I hate the changes
I play it occasionally, and I love the changes
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » January 3, 2020 11:41am | Report


Season 7 Joust: A Closer Look

By: TitanAjax



As a new Season begins, so starts a new story arc in the SMITE Universe. This will set the stage for Season 7’s new Joust map! Yggdrasil, the world tree, has been damaged by Persephone. Now, a strange occurrence is happening in China. Jade, the sacred gemstone, usually imbued with healing powers and divinity, has turned into something sinister. Living things that touch the jade become afflicted by an otherworldly disease, and demons who slept are awoken by the dark energy within the stone.

A new map brings two primary things: completely new environment art and new gameplay design. The story above is what inspires the new environment. The map will be set on the edge of a city making its last stand against the invading hordes. Instead of the bright, colorful, and heavenly scenes of the current Joust map, players will see a dark, war-torn, and dying forest.

Order side will be landmarked by the city’s temple, beautiful cliffside structures designed to worship the divine.

Chaos side will display the source of the corruption. A giant piece of jade strangling the largest tree in the forest.





All of the characters on the map have seen updates or completely new models. The Tigers and Turtles have had their textures heavily updated to be better quality. The Titans have also had texture updates and thematic changes.

The new characters are:
  • The Chaos Minions (Swordsman, Archer, and Brute). These clay soldiers are afflicted with cursed jade and continually assault the inhabitants of the local city.
  • The Yellow Buff, who is a new type of nature demon. These creatures are humanoid but made of twisted wood, and are enraged at the ongoing disaster happening around them.
  • The Demon King, who is the leader of the nature demons. This powerful treefolk will happily crush any gods who attempt to challenge him.
Just as the environment has been updated, so has the gameplay. The primary gameplay goal for the Season 7 Joust map is: More Jungle.

In the old days of SMITE the Joust map had long jungle paths and an abundance of jungle camps to slay for buffs. That map had other serious flaws, and the map was redesigned with a more direct combat approach, giving us the Joust map we have played on for the past few years.

This current map featured a bow shape, with minimal jungle and more direct paths to jungle camps. The gameplay design of the current joust map is highlighted by the Red Buff, a camp that spawns right near the lane and must be contested by both teams. This buff forces Joust players to commit to a dangerous fight at the start of the match.

We learned many lessons from each iteration of Joust, and we are attempting to apply the best parts of each version in this new map. Players have shown strong support for the gameplay of Classic Joust, even with its glaring flaws. This new map should bring us to a strong new iteration in the series of Joust maps.

At its heart, Joust is designed to reward pure SMITE combat. The surest way to success is for your team to choose gods and make plays that synergize well together. Focus specific targets, chain your abilities, and do not miss a shot. The mode has minimal ways to rotate or farm, and instead encourages team fighting. The current map met these goals but pushed things to an extreme level.

As we moved forward with Season 7 Joust there were a few problems we wanted to solve.
  • Increase the pool of viable gods and different strategies
  • Smooth out power spikes and reduce snowballing in the early game
  • Move team fight victories toward acquiring more map control as opposed to gaining direct gold and XP advantages
We also had a list of core gameplay features of Joust that we wanted to preserve:
  • Combat skill and teamwork is more valuable than map or economy management
  • Matches are faster paced and include more combat than Conquest
  • Encourage aggressive gameplay with synergizing gods
  • Prevent “turtling” in bases
They way we went around both solving these problems and preserving these gameplay features was to adjust the Joust jungle. A few distinct changes were made:
  • Added a series of new paths to reach the red buff as well as the demon king
  • Added a new buff camp to both sides of the map, a Yellow camp featuring a movement and attack speed buff. This spawns
  • at the start of the match with Blue buff and XP camps.
    Delayed the first spawn of the Red camp
  • Added XP Camps to both sides on the Red camp side
These changes can be seen in comparison to the current Joust map in the image below.




SMITE – Season 7 Joust Minimap


And, as usual, we made sure to keep a few things that already fit the goals of the map. The most important being: Slaying the Demon King will disable the enemy Tower or Phoenix. This feature prevents frustratingly long defenses and is most likely here to stay as a Joust feature.

Adding all of these camps to the map created some interesting interactions. One thing we had to be aware of was how many additional gold and XP sources were on the map. Joust was already a snowbally mode and overloading the map could cause more harm than good. In order to keep things balanced in the new Joust map we made a series of economy related changes.
  • Reduced the team gold reward for killing towers and phoenixes
  • Reduced the gold reward for killing an enemy god
  • Decreased XP rewards on minions across the map, but increased the share bonus (this allows for teams to gain XP at a similar rate as usual, but makes it harder for individual players to solo camps or lanes for level spikes)
  • Increased gold reward on non-buff camps
This combination of effects makes working as team more important, prevents snowballing in XP and gold, and makes sure jungle camps all feel valuable. When combined together they make for a great Joust experience!

As we move forward with this new Season’s Joust map, we will keep a close watch on community feedback and the map’s metrics. We want to make sure that this map provides a better experience for players of all god classes and play styles.

An important section of those players will be using this map for the 1v1 Duel game mode. The plan is for the Ranked Duel queue to also use this new Joust map, while also preserving the Duel specific rules of the previous map.
  • Duel Titans deal 50% damage to enemy gods
  • Duel Titans have 25% less HP than Joust Titans (75% of Total)
  • Duel Titans have 50% less HP5
  • Duel Demon King Objective has 600 less HP and 7 less Magical/Physical protections
  • Duel games can be surrendered at 5m
As soon as the map reaches PTS we will be in discussion with Duel players to make sure this new maps fits their needs and provides similar benefits to Duel as it does to Joust. When patch notes are released and PTS testing has been done we will be open to making slight changes to the map even before launch.

Season 7 Joust will bring about a new era of 1v1 and 3v3 SMITE. This iconic new location will not only be a place of godlike battles, but it will also be the home of SMITE’s next god. This god will ascend to new levels of power in order to save their people from the threat of the jade, and in that ascent, they will join the ranks of the Gods of SMITE! Be sure to check out the Season 7 Update Show January 8 at 3pm ET to see the full reveal of the new Joust Map!





Source: https://www.smitegame.com/news/season-7-joust-a-closer-look/
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » January 3, 2020 3:47pm | Report
So, since everyone else is silent, I'll start it off and see if I can drum up some conversation.

At first glance, my intuition says the jungle seems a bit large now, and my first feeling is aversion. I admit I like the somewhat straightforwardness of the current Joust map, and although I played the original back in the day, I felt that old jungle was extremely awkward and ill-flowing.

This new jungle, at least, has a (sort of) reasonable about of flow, and multiple pathways on the left side. The right XP camps look a bit awkward though, especially with the long pathway around the T1 towers. They look very closed off...a bit too hidden from view, IMO.

I like the added camp locations overall, and the new staggered tower format.

Standard warding should look like this:



Of course, the far left one (closest to the Demon King) is a bit less important, as it would be a long way for a jungler to travel just to attempt a gank.

I anticipate more ward use, though. I wonder if they're going to implement that new "Vision Shard" free relic in Joust, or if it's only going to be in Conquest. If they allow it in Joust, I think that's a bad idea, because each team would be able to pretty easily ward and prevent any aggressive early play, making the early game pretty boring.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ThePerfectPrism » January 3, 2020 4:36pm | Report
Bran, DM said that a ward in between those two wards on the left may be enough to cover all 3 entrances, so you'll only really need 2 wards.

Also, for my opinion, I'm really glad they did this. I miss the old Joust map that you could come from all 3 sides and have some impact (current map has diminished this drastically). idk this feels like an actual Joust V3 and not a "Here we changed this because it was obsolete"

I'm really hyped to play Joust
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Branmuffin17 » January 3, 2020 4:38pm | Report
I was thinking the same thing, but it sort of looks just a bit too far for one ward to cover both. We'll have to try it out in PTS.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Stuke99 » January 4, 2020 9:17am | Report
I missed the old map, so much more balanced than the current joust map (especially for duel). Hopefully, these changes that borrowed from the old map one makes it better.

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