The Glorious One: Ullr Build | Season 3 | Conquest |

I am master builder Emmet and I approve this build. I used to use transcendence warrior tabi, asi,ichival,qin sais, and malice. It was pretty good. But buying transcendence felt like it was holding me back sometimes. This build price wise flows very nicely from start to finish. Im a lvl 10 ullr. I thought just having asi might make me feel slow but the frequent crits plus the passive attack speed really do it justice. Nice build two thumbs up

Just a few thoughts. Why is Stone Cutting Sword included on this list? The only way you will proc the passive is through your axe stance and you won't be using that beyond lifestealing a little before switching back to bow, stunning, or escaping. It's not a reliable boxing item on hunters.

Secondly, is there any real sense in buying Asi and Ichaival together? Especially for a final build? These are both starter items and you end up losing overall DPS on a wide variety of opponents by not getting other items.

Let's do some experimenting, Devourer's Gauntlet gives you 10-15 more damage and 10% lifesteal than Asi even with it's pen in any "non- Transcendence" build when above 35% hp, when fully stacked. And 30-45 more if building crits with lifesteal. So while the difference is minimal, the difference is still there. Even Bloodforge, though it does 10 less damage early on, is 1200g cheaper than Ichaival and Asi put together, and getting Brawler's Beat Stick early on allows you to get more damage than those two starter items, while still being cheaper. I mean technically you get more attack speed with your build, but you also only get the 30 power, and 25 pen across 2 items.



Now if you were to build something like:
Warrior Tabi> Transcendence> Qin's Sais> Bloodforge> The Crusher> Titan's Bane

Then by comparison to your first build, the dps doesn't change much, you just end up doing 7-10 extra damage to tanks. But when compared to your Ichaival/ Asi combo, the difference in damage is phenomenal. You call the combo your non critical alternative, but you already have a quasi-unicorn build which gives you the highest dps on hunters without crits, so it's just a redundant build.



As for your Crit build:
Warrior Tabi> Devourer's Gauntlet> Qin's Sais> Malice> Titan's Bane> Deathbringer

Would work better for getting higher player damage. You can swap Titan's Bane for The Executioner if you want to keep your attack speed up. And this is all assuming you still want the lifesteal, you could opt out of it, get Transcendence, and have even more damage on your crits.


Check the damage comparison for yourself.

Your utility, and boxing items, save for Stone Cutting Sword are fine. Your first final build is fine, it's just last 2 builds bother me because you can get so much more just by getting rid of Asi and Ichaival in the same build.

I also want to make it clear that I'm not saying getting Devourer's Gauntlet over Asi is THE way to go. I merely want to dispel the myth that's been circulating around that getting Asi on it's own gives you overall significantly higher dps. This is not true. It's just easier, and cheaper to buy Asi instead.

I feel as tho Ullr is one of the strongest hunters out there as the stance change helps alot, even though he is Mana hungry.
Ullr can fight with assassins when they get in close with his axe stance which i have found out when a Loki and a Thor Ganked me to then retreating and dying as a stood to to toe.

Great guide dude

My hunters I main are:
Hou Yi
Aretmis
Ullr

Not my fancy, but I'm sure you could do it!
EDIT: You could even add BoV if you really wanted to! (Ullr is by far the best hunter for that item)

I actualy like a bit of cdr on Ullr, maybe it's just me, because it worked great in seasone 2. SO maybe a Jotunn's wrath?

Exactly what Devampi said. I would get Warrior Tabi, Ichaival, Asi, etc, maybe Ich first then boots.

probably boots or the second item

Damn! theres alot of builds to go with for different playstyles. I like it alot, im just wondering tho, what would you start with if you didnt go for transcendence?

Hoorah!

I would say if you just want quick optimal build options you can use this:
(item that you don't need to build and will likely sell lategame)
(Trans) - Warrior Tabi - (Ichaival) - Asi - Malice - Titan's - Deathbringer - Qin's Sais
If you don't want crit then it's more complicated, situational and up to preference. You should build the same in the beginning and replace the crit items with Brawler's or Crusher for more ability damage because of the pen. They're best against squishies where that flat 20 pen will be huge and you will build them based on if you want anti heal or not, whether it be for boxing or an actual healer. The options you have are Executioner, Odysseus' Bow or something weird like void shield, which will build by situation and preference. You can also just buy Ich early and keep it.
I recommend building Transcendence almost all the time on Ullr because he uses both the power and mana really well and is a very ability based hunter. You can even keep it late game and forego Qin's Sais (I'm not sure about the DPS difference on this, but you'll obviously still have the mana and more ability damage. It's also likely better against squishies where the Qin's passive isn't as big of a deal.)

I pick Asi because I'm valuing lifesteal and survivability lower and valuing DPS and abiliy higher. The 15 flat pen is the big part and it's a huge part of your damage; not having Asi is a huge blow to your DPS and damage, I find the passive really useful, especially with axe stance, and I don't like stacking, especially since you need to stack all game to get the usefulness out of Soul Eater. Overall, Asi is a cheaper item, and much better offensively and as a lifesteal item in my opinion, especially late game.