Look at these sexy pistols! - Apollo (ADC)

"More than likely". The only way I'll update it is if the meta for hunters changes drastically, which never happens.

After all the work I did to help?!? NoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

NoOOooOOOoOo!!!

Maybe in the future. I'm not very good at explaining or just writing in general.

Titan's Bane is just a personal preference, I value more structure damage. Exe is listed as a replacement for TB.

As for the triple crit I've been meaning to change the whole build, just haven't gotten around to it.

Thanks for the response and the reminder.

Thank you! I buy Hastened Fatalis when I find myself boxing the opposing ADC for the majority of the game. If not, I will usually go Qin's Sais or, very rarely, The Crusher. I will add Qin's Sais in as another choice.

Thanks

If you haven't done the coding for pros/cons yet, here it is with xZeroStrike's format:

Apollo - Pros & Cons

........ Pros ........ - High mobility. - Amazing passive. - One of the best boxers. - Ultimate is good for split pushing.

....... Cons ....... - Very weak early game. - Item dependent. - Ultimate drains mana. - Ultimate could get you killed in certain situations.

To keep on topic, and hopefully help for all readers, I'd like to comment on this.

Asi is definitely a bit less favored right now, depending on the build. The S4 4.1/4.2 patches have improved sustain for hunters via Death's Toll, but more importantly, other items have also gotten some buffs. Specifically, the shuriken tree that includes Poisoned Star and Wind Demon added attack speed, and we now have a magical variant of Ichaival. The biggest S3 difference between the two main lifesteal options for hunters ( Devourer's Gauntlet and Asi) was that one provided power but no attack speed, and one provided attack speed (and some flat pen) but no power. I'm not including Soul Eater (highly defensive version of lifesteal) or Bloodforge (due to cost, was a late-game option at best).

So, when there were less attack speed choices, Asi was a nice mid-game pickup...very cheap (basically a bridge item price) with a heap of attack speed, and it fit well especially with Transcendence, which already provided a lot of power but no attack speed.

Right now, Asi is in a weird place, and while it still fits in with a Transcendence build, Trans is also not the most favored except in some very specific circumstances.

Some people might opt for Poisoned Star over Wind Demon due to any of the following:

• Already have crit in their kits, such as Artemis or Jing Wei, so can deal with the preferred minimum 40% crit chance with the slightly lower amount from Poisoned Star.
  
  
• Want a slightly earlier power spike (due to the lower cost of Star)
  
  
• Appreciate the honestly quite significant slow and damage mitigation from Star's passive, because they have enough movement speed in their kit that they don't really need the added amount from Wind Demon's passive.

I also want to point out that it is ABSOLUTELY not true that building The Executioner and Qin's Sais together is a bad idea. Any good hunter build should have some strong pen effect, whether from Titan's Bane or The Executioner. There are exceptions, such as you're in a very unique Joust match and you're facing 3 squishies with 0 protections being built, but otherwise, you want one of those two items. With regard to Qin's Sais, it has power, attack speed, and a passive where each hit takes of a base 4% of the enemy's max health...but this 4% is before protections and mitigations are factored in. Pen/protection reduction will have a positive effect on the passsive, making it do more damage. In addition, that Qin's passive means that it appreciates high attack speed...and The Executioner absolutely provides that. It is actually a solid combination, at least depending on the rest of the build. Don't understand where this is a bad idea.

Odysseus' Bow is a unique late-game item, but is not what most would consider core to any build. Higher power makes the passive more effective, though.

"Never" getting Malice is a personal opinion, and if someone chooses it and can explain their reasoning, I don't see the problem. Besides Deathbringer, it DOES provide the highest power of any crit item, so that in and of itself is at least some reason.

Finally, depending on the god, I don't know if your statements on always upgrading ultimate, and always having all 3 abilities unlocked by level 3 is a blanket statement, or one you're applying just to Apollo. With regard to upgrading the ultimate, well, this is again subjective. Leveling his ult is great, as you get higher damage, but that's it, and unless you buy CDR items, you've got a 110 second CD on it. His other moves have multiple uses; let's go over them.

• So Beautiful is his wave-clear and easiest poke. Maxing first is usually preferred.
  
  
• Serenade has a mez that increases duration as you level it, boosts his physical protection for 5 seconds, and reduces his CD. You'll likely use it multiple times between ults. I can see reasons for leveling this while delaying his ult in some cases.
  
  
• The Moves is his escape, and does decent damage itself if you want to use it to chase. It also provides a move speed buff for him and a debuff for enemies that increases as you level it. It also builds Audacity stacks. So you could technically even blow through a minion wave, get Audacity activated and look to burst the enemy god with the attack speed boost, then if you need to get out, use Serenade to pin them down a bit to create distance.

All of these are solid reasons why you might level them and delay your ult.

Hope these comments are helpful.

Okay, with all due respect, tigey2003, but this has to stop. You've gone off to every Apollo guide you could find that is not yours and left a comment like this, without constructive criticism at that.

One of your comments has been removed already. If I see any more of this I will personally contact an Administrator and personally ask for them to take action against you and this behavior that you're showing right now.

This is a free community site, and everybody gets the chance to create their own guide, including you. We would thus like for you to keep this a fun and enjoyable environment for everybody.

Thanks in advance

Sincerely,
~Zero

Thank you for the recommendations. Prepare to see some changes in the future.