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Smite God: Odin

Choose a Build: Arena

Arena Experimental Arena Joust

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Odin Build

Shoes

Reinforced Greaves

Warrior Tabi

Early Game CDR

Jotunn's Wrath

Penetration

Titan's Bane

Offensive Options

Void Shield

The Crusher

Brawler's Beat Stick

Frostbound Hammer

Runic Shield

Defensive Options

Mantle of Discord

Breastplate of Valor

Bulwark of Hope

Shogun's Kusari

Spirit Robe

Genji's Guard

Relics

Blink Rune

Purification Beads

Aegis Amulet

Counter Building

Witchblade

Pestilence

Winged Blade

Hide of the Nemean Lion

Magi's Cloak

Balanced Example Build

Warrior Tabi

Jotunn's Wrath

Breastplate of Valor

Bulwark of Hope

The Crusher

Titan's Bane

Tanky Example Build

Reinforced Greaves

Breastplate of Valor

Jotunn's Wrath

Bulwark of Hope

Titan's Bane

Mantle of Discord

Bird Bomb Damage Build

Warrior Tabi

Jotunn's Wrath

Mantle of Discord

The Crusher

Brawler's Beat Stick

Titan's Bane

Attack Speed Odin

Warrior Tabi

Jotunn's Wrath

Breastplate of Valor

Shogun's Kusari

The Crusher

Titan's Bane

Tanky Counter Build Template. VoidShield or TBane. Last two slots situational

Reinforced Greaves

Breastplate of Valor

Genji's Guard

Void Shield

Odin's Skill Order

Lunge

1 X

Y

1 8 10 11 12

Raven Shout

2 A

B

2 3 6 7 9

Gungnir's Might

3 B

A

4 13 14 15 16

Ring of Spears

4 Y

X

5 17 18 19 20

Odin Build

Shoes

Warrior Tabi

Power/Def

Shifter's Shield

CDR/Def/Mana

Breastplate of Valor

More Defense

Hide of the Urchin

Mantle of Discord

Spirit Robe

Bulwark of Hope

Penetration

The Crusher

Titan's Bane

Relics

Blink Rune

Purification Beads

Aegis Amulet

Example Build

Warrior Tabi

Shifter's Shield

Breastplate of Valor

Hide of the Urchin

The Crusher

Titan's Bane

Odin Build

(Vanguard Starter If Going Into Reinforced Greaves)

Boots

Mark of the Vanguard

Healing Potion

3

Mana Potion

3

Shoes

Reinforced Greaves

Warrior Tabi

CDR/Early Game Mana

Jotunn's Wrath

Breastplate of Valor

Support (Defensive)

Sovereignty

Heartward Amulet

Support (Offensive)

Void Shield

Shogun's Kusari

Pen

Titan's Bane

Some Counter Building Options

Runic Shield

Ancile

Hide of the Nemean Lion

Witchblade

Pestilence

Winged Blade

Magi's Cloak

Other Def Options

Mantle of Discord

Bulwark of Hope

Relics

Cloak of Meditation

Blink Rune

Example Build (Last 2 Items Your Choice)

Reinforced Greaves

Breastplate of Valor

Void Shield

Shogun's Kusari

Introduction

Hi everyone. I love playing this god, and I want to share what tips and strategies work best for me.

So in a nutshell, here are 's strengths and weaknesses:

Strengths

Weaknesses

Here are some terms and abbreviations I use throughout the guide:

Terms and Abbreviations

Skill Order

A curious topic I wanted to explore in this guide: I see some people build on in arena for more damage. However, will you benefit with the raw power from ? Or will you do better with more penetration? The chapter: Build Comparisons and a Discussion on Transcendence vs. Titan's Bane will give you an idea on which is a better fit on an ability based, damage build for . I'll also compare some early game items and a few listed offensive items to explore their effects on 's damage. I'm hoping you learn something out of these comparisons to help you choose items more efficiently for your future builds.

Legit Spoiler. Only open if you don't wanna read all the test data

Arena Guide

INTRODUCTION

I like playing with close to 40% CDR (maximum) in Arena. In some cases, 20% CDR is acceptable for me, but I personally will not play him below 20% CDR. This allows me to consistently harass enemies and escape more efficiently.

He's great for supporting and initiating. Keep in mind if you miss your and combination, you're pretty much a sitting duck. However, if you are great at aiming your abilities and you want lots of damage, you can try your luck with lots of penetration items (See Bird Bomb Damage Build).

In the following sections, I'll explain why I chose certain items for my builds:

Important Disclaimer

CORE ITEMS

Movement

Early Game

Penetration

OTHER ITEMS

Offensive Options

Offensive Debuff Items

Defensive Options

20% CDR, +300 Mana, and very good physical protections.
An excellent 3rd item following . However, if you need to be more tanky against physical gods, this also works great as a 2nd item since you're still rushing to build the CDR.

One of my favorite magic defense items. The 20% CCR means hard CC won't effect you as long. The high magical defense, the extra health, and the amazing passive has saved me MULTIPLE times. Buy it earlier for your build should the need arise.
As an example, if you've built as your second item, you can do one of the following:

Rush the 40% CDR by building Jotunn's Wrath as the third item and Bulwark of Hope as the fourth item.
Get your magic defenses up ASAP with Bulwark of Hope as the third item.

Acceptable replacement for , especially if you have basic attack based gods on your team that are doing very well. This increases attack speed of allied gods in the area (yourself included) and offers the same 20% CCR as . It even gives you a good +10% CDR! The only downside is that it lacks high magical defense and a life saving passive.

If you're using the Tanky Counter Build Template, this is a really good substitute for due to the CDR. You can also build this item 2nd if significant magical threats manifest themselves early.

Both and have good passives, +10% CDR, and fair amounts of protections for a tanky build. is a good choice here too, just buy it a bit earlier for your build.

For the Bird Bomb Damage Build, I prefer since you only buy one defensive item, and the mantle gives +20 more protections than . On top of that, you won't always be CCed, so 's passive wont be giving you the extra mitigation. However, the 400 gold cheaper price tag on is enough to still make it a very valid contender against . Use your judgement, and build however you think is best. You can see a better comparison of these two, along with in the EXPERIMENTAL ARENA BUILD! section

Counter Building

EXPERIMENTAL ARENA BUILD!

Items

I'm still playing with this build, so I'm not sure how optimal it is yet. However, I've had some fairly good results with it.

The main idea behind this is to take advantage of 's powerful early game, while building him into a fairly tanky late game bruiser.

Build 2nd for best early results. When you are over 50% health, you get +70 physical power. In contrast to , you also gain some protections (+15 physical and magical) and even more if you are below 50% health (+50 physical and magical). This is good to help you stay in a team fight.

Physical Power Comparison to Transcendence

Let's say you build or as your second item, around level 9. At level 9, has 515 base Mana. With , he has 815 mana. 3% of that is converted to physical power (+24.45 power). On top of that, offers +35 physical power, for a total of +59.45 power. wins with it's +70 power, +15 protections, and 200 gold cheaper price tag (+50 protections and +35 power on the flip side). Yes, obviously will offer more damage late game, but the whole purpose of this build was to abuse 's EARLY game power.

Good item to make yourself tanky late game. Consider building 4th.

The reason I build as my 3rd item is so I can get the CDR ASAP.

I understand that it may not be optimal to build as your 4th item since you may be too late in the game to get stacks.

If your team is doing very well, you won't have a problem getting the stacks.
If your team is doing poorly, consider building Mantle of Discord or Spirit Robe instead. On the plus side, if you build either of these, you get +10% CDR.
Check out Duke Sloth's video comparing Mantle of Discord, Hide of the Urchin, and Spirit Robe.

and are built so you can still do a fair amount of damage late game. Feel free to replace with something else should the situation arise.

RELICS

Relics

Ability Combinations, Tips, and Teamwork

1) The infamous "Bird Bomb"
Use Raven Shout followed by Lunge.

Using Lunge detonates Raven Shout shield. If you're trying to escape, use Lunge first, then use Raven Shout.

2) Gungnir's Might
Slows down an enemy on BOTH hits. Great for harassment or escaping.

3) Ring of Spears

stacks

Max CDR and your ult

Using your ult a bit more safely

your ult and the arena siege minion

ulting to save yourself and your allies

Allied gods that pair very well with Ring of Spears:

Joust Tips

INTRODUCTION

It's best to play with a team that complements him very well in Joust. I prefer and / due to their amazing synergy with .

If you don't have a good composition, you might as well just play a real guardian.

I usually play in casuals with friends, and we're pretty synchronized. I play as an offensive support, so that's the only example build I've included in this guide.

Unfortunately, I don't have as much experience playing Joust as I do Arena. If you have specific questions about the Joust build, please leave a comment and I'll get back to you ASAP. I appreciate your feedback!

So here's the quick rundown on the build:

Joust isn't like Arena where your base is 3 feet away from the battleground. You're going to need some sustain. Buy health and mana potions to stay on the battlefield longer. This is important because if you have to constantly return to base, you can't farm experience/gold from minion waves. Mark of the Vanguard is my preferred starter item since I need to soak up damage for my team (and minions HURT early game).
Reinforced Greaves: I need to be tanky, so this is my preferred boots.
Breastplate of Valor: I build this second to rush CDR and have early mana sustain. The physical protections are also very helpful.
Void Shield: I build this 3rd or 4th depending on the situation.
Shogun's Kusari: 3rd or 4th depending on the situation. The 20% CCR combined with the 20% from greaves gives me my max CCR. I've finished my offensive support build for my ADC.
The last two items are completely your choice. Consider damage options if your team is pulling ahead or strong defense items if hard hitting enemies are starting to come online.

RELICS

Meditation Cloak

Good first relic to pick up. Keeps you and your guys alive.

Meditation Cloak

Also a good first relic to pick up. Good for chasing a kill or setting up your ultimate for your ADC and mage to follow up. If you set up and initiate properly, your team will get early kills, you'll get stacks, and you guys will pull ahead of the enemy team. Unlike Arena, you have snowballing potential in Joust.

TIPS

Your Bird Bomb has very good damage. Use it to steal camps and bull demon king.
Unsuspecting Bird Bombs are the ones that are hardest to dodge. Go into the jungle (the area between the Bull Demon King and the Main Lane) for some surprise Bird Bombs.

Yell: FOR ASGARD!!! As you leap out of the jungle

It's a little hard to see, but my Lunge marker is on the enemy god. This is evident since his hitboxes are highlighted. If an enemy god is fighting your allies or minions, you will have a visual on him. He has no visual on me, so he's gonna be in for a nasty surprise.
You can use Ring of Spears to block off objectives and almost every lane in the Joust map. For example, you can block off one of the entrances to the Bull Demon King, buying your team some time, if the enemy is coming to steal the objective.

Yell: YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!! As you slam Gungnir on the ground

Notice how my Ring of Spears is blocking off nearly the ENTIRE Main Lane.

Fly you fools

Notice how enemies trying to enter from my left will NOT be able to come through without a leap or Phantom Veil. Use tactics like this to confirm Bull Demon King for your team. In this picture, the ring could be placed in a better position to block off the Bull Demon King, but I just wanted to illustrate the point that you can put your ring through walls and other obstacles.

Needless to say, you can also block off the enemy tower/phoenix/titan to limit enemy interference as you and your team attack the objectives.

Build Comparisons and a Discussion on Transcendence vs. Titan's Bane

TRANSCENDENCE VS. TITAN'S BANE

Alright, let me give you guys some insight on how certain items affect 's damage. Again, I hope you can use this data to better plan future builds for ability based gods.

So... if you're going for a damage build, and you have enough flat penetration, should you build high physical power with or build EVEN MORE pen (percentage based penetration) with ?

Keep the following in mind:

Testing was done in a custom arena game, against an Artemis bot. We were both level 20.
Core items that stayed the same for each build include:
Warrior Tabi, Jotunn's Wrath, Breastplate of Valor, and The Crusher
Odin's last basic attack in his attack chain has hit progression:

Frostbound Hammer build:

Brawler's Beat Stick build:

Void Shield build:

Let's further compare the and builds with a fully Stacked

Void Shield (Fully stacked Ring of Spears) build:

Brawler's Beat Stick (Fully stacked Ring of Spears) build:

Conclusion

BALANCED BUILD COMPARISON

Let's see how the Balanced Build compares to the damage build at level 20. Again, this was tested against a level 20 bot.
The items for the build are:

Balanced Build

In the past, I would build instead of in my balanced builds. So just for the hell of it, let me show you the comparison:

transcendence instead of the crusher

EARLY GAME COMPARISON

Alright. Let's see how 's damage is affected by different 2nd item choices. We'll look at , , and .
All testing was done under these conditions:

The first item was Warrior Tabi
Tests were done against an Artemis bot in a custom arena game
We were both level 9
Lunge level 1
Raven Shout level 5
Gungnir's Might level 1
Ring of Spears level 2

Early Game Comparison for 2nd item built at level 9

Conclusion and Credits

TL;DR:
Press 2. Press 1. Left click on enemy. Profit.

But seriously, thank you so much for reading!

If you have any feedback to help this grow into something better, please don't hesitate to leave it! Even if you completely disagree with everything I am saying, as long as you learned one new thing that helps you become a slightly better player, my goal has been met.

Special Thanks:

Branmuffin17
- Helping me with BattleShip (BB. Get it? No? Ok...) Coding
- Suggesting aesthetic improvements
- Pointing out some obvious errors/typos
- Letting me use his skill order
- Telling me which areas of the guide needed further clarification
- He has also written an Odin guide.
  Be sure to check it out: Branmuffin17's Odin Guide
  So you may ask: Why bother writing an Odin guide if the legendary Branmuffin17 has already written one? I will again refer you to the statement that my goal is for you to learn at least one new thing that helps you become a better player. If there was something useful you got from my guide, which wasn't present in his, then my goal of helping you has been met.
xZeroStrike for also helping with BB Coding. Here is his guide on BB Coding:
http://www.smitefire.com/smite/guide/spruce-up-your-words-a-guide-to-bb-coding-15438
Giye from DeviantArt created the picture I used in the Introduction.
Kejablank from DeviantArt created the picture I used in the Conclusion.
You, the reader, for taking the time to go through this guide.

ChangeLog

6/23/17
- Cleaned up the Guide and removed some redundancies
- Added Test Data for Transcendence vs Titan's Bane in various builds

6/24/17
- Cleaned up the Guide further, and fixed some errors.
- Added better aesthetic changes.
- Added more explanations to certain areas.
- Added pictures illustrating how to block off lanes.
- Added Counter Building Options
- Attack speed Odin Build added.

6/25/17
- Added Test Data for early game options
- Added Test Data Comparison for Balanced Build

6/29/17
- Updated Joust Build to prioritize on early defense and support

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Hi boogie...

Speaking of boogie...

That's a pretty big picture. Good picture though.
Good listing of strengths & weaknesses. Forcing enemies to waste a slot on Phantom Veil is definitely a pro...but fact that Veil exists is obviously a con. I think you wrote that up just fine. I might also point out that, besides being somewhat easy to dodge, if you commit to a bird bomb, you have almost nothing left...you've sacrificed both your escape/leap and your tanky/shield aspect.
LOL on the spoiler.
Oh, and you talk about being a sitting duck after missing bird bomb in the intro.
FYI, spoilers within spoilers always have the inside spoilers fully opened. Suggest against it, and just find a better presentation for when you've got options on a specific item like boots.
You could provide a bit more explanation on some of the items...for example, with Hide of the Nemean Lion, you might more specifically say it's not just annoying physical gods...cuz Herc fits that billing, but rather...it's a very specific counter to basic attacking gods (e.g. most hunters and some assassins, and more specifically great against crit builds). As another example, Void Shield can be functional, but it's a bit weaker the later the game gets...and also, you could mention that as it provides an aura of protection reduction, it's a more functional choice the more physical gods YOU have on your team.
If you just straight up know Titan's Bane is better and you prefer it, I would just eliminate Transcendence altogether from the situational items. Also, you're already getting Breastplate of Valor...you don't need any extra mana, so you're mostly just getting it for the power, you need to stack it, etc...basically, it's unnecessary.
Now, with the build itself, you and I have slightly different preferences in build order...I personally like giving options depending on situation. Where you always have Jotunn's Wrath 2nd, what if you end up being the main tank? I'd likely get protection before Jotunn's. What if there are way bigger magical threats? I'd consider Genji's Guard instead of BoV. Things like that. Jotunn's is fine if you're not the main tank and you're not always using bird bomb, and saving Raven Shout sometimes in the early stages for added survivability.
In your balanced example, you don't have any magical protection (and no added health to offset that) until item #5. I understand the appeal (although I'd consider it situational) of The Crusher...but again, I would prefer that magical protection and health before it.
In your tanky build, you do have the greaves for added protections, but if I'm calling it tanky, I'd be getting Bulwark of Hope before Titan's Bane. If you're tanky, you want to focus on soaking up damage before dealing some added damage.
You might consider Spirit Robe as an alternative to Mantle of Discord in your damage build...2,900 gold as 3rd item is a bit expensive, but I understand the utility of the passive. Just a thought.
I like your experimental arena build. Still think Spirit Robe is a functional alternative to Mantle of Discord...and (at work computer, can't see youtube on it) if that's the Sloth video I think it is, he's also comparing Spirit Robe and he also determined it as a good option.
Blink Rune should just straight up be the first relic. It's a necessity. You talk about getting Purification Beads first for messy CC situations...but if you blink in, you won't be using your Raven Shout for added protection, and you also have your Lunge as an escape. I'd say you should usually be more than safe if you initiate properly.
In your ability combinations chapter, you have only one line talking about using the Ring to save yourself or a teammate. I'd give examples here to better emphasize this, as it's a key function of the ability, especially with the low CD that's going to drastically outwork Blink Rune's availability.
I like that you did a comparison of different items. I didn't run numbers on this myself, but it's good to see a visual...I've never been a proponent of Arena Odin using Trans. That said, you talk about damage against a squishy, and yes, they should probably be your main target...but with the fact of Titan's Bane being more effective the higher an enemy's protections, you're going to do increasingly higher damage against tanky enemies as well. Just something to point out.
So...in the end...I'd say the general builds as a whole are functional. I'm not as sold on The Crusher as you are, and I wouldn't wait (in most cases except against only 1 magical god) to get my first magical protection as item #5, but these builds can and will work. And you definitely, definitely need Blink 1st. Hope these comments have been helpful.

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Hey Bran,

Thank you so much for your insightful feedback. I'll make the necessary changes.
Some points I'd like to discuss:

You're right, there should be an explanation somewhere saying you should use your judgement and get some protections before jotunn's if you have to be the main tank. Sorry, completely forgot about adding that.
Likewise, I should make mention that it may be a good idea to build Bulwark of Hope before The Crusher if magical enemies are a threat. I meant to put that down somewhere. I should just make a note that players should build according to their own judgement instead of flat out saying something like, "I build it 4th due to the attack speed boost"
Thank you for pointing out the flaw in my tanky example build. That was a mistake and will be corrected.
I think I should expand a bit on the situational items. For example, If there's a really good, enemy Freya, it may be advisable to buy Winged Blade and Runic Shield. I think my builds right now are mostly focusing on damage dealing and simple tanking instead of countering and supporting. What are your thoughts on this?
As for getting Blink Rune first: The reason I get it second is because I've had some bad experiences where my team mates weren't reliable and didn't follow up with my initiates. So it's just been instinct for me to get Purification Beads first. That's why I mention getting beads first: to test out your team. If they help you and communicate with you, buy blink rune next. If they are absolutely unreliable, buy Aegis Amulet instead.
But you're probably right. To become a better player, I think I should get used to buying and using Blink Rune first, even with potentially unreliable team mates.
Should I remove the option of getting Aegis Amulet?

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@boogie, sweet. Oh, forgot one thing...rather than default to auto-level, you really should indicate build order for people reading the guide.

Generally, it should be max Raven, then Lunge, then Gungnir, then Ult. Check my guide for reference.

And as for an enemy , I wouldn't use as a counter...she's not so reliant on magical power...rather, you just need to slow her down as much as possible. Catch her in your ring when you know her ult is down (huge attack speed reduction), get decent magical protection (Bulwark is fine), and consider, if she's not the only basic attacker, to get something more like or as a counter, rather than .

For the relics, yes...I've gotten screwed here and there, but I think some of those were still avoidable. Never initiate so far ahead of teammates that your ult isn't a threat...if they're close, you can at least retreat in some numbers, and remember that the ring is only a threat because it's a trap for your teammates to deal damage...not you.

And should you remove ? No, if there's an enemy or or , it can still be helpful. First should be a mandatory , second options could be Aegis, Beads, or more team-oriented things like (or even if there's an enemy and you're being a wonderful teammate for those that have no escapes and are too stupid to get it themselves).

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Solid revisions...this is a good guide with a variety of information. +1 from me now.

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Awesome thank you!

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Ability Combinations, Tips, and Teamwork

Build Comparisons and a Discussion on Transcendence vs. Titan's Bane

Conclusion and Credits

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