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Hey Pellie,

Commenting a bit more now that the contest is over.

With BoV as your 2nd item, how important is Shoes of Focus first? I'm thinking that for Jungle, the early aggression and pen from Shoes of the Magi might be more core than Focus. I know you mention in the items section below that you can switch between the two, but I'm feeling that Magi might be the better choice? The long CD on Frost Breath means that it's unlikely that you'll use it more than once in a fight, and conversely, Glacial Strike has a low CD and you don't need more than 20% early for camp clear and other things...

In your skills section, a bit of explanation as to why you level one skill over others would be good to add. I mean, it's pretty obvious for regulars, but for people not used to Ymir, it might help them understand.

Also, separating large blocks of text into a couple of smaller paragraphs might be nicer on the eyes for reading.

Anyway, great job on your guide, and would love to see more from you.

First off, great guide. It's well written, detailed, and useful for beginners. I do think that wrath should be placed in the situational section though. While hog can be useful against high pressure solo-jungle combos like Thor Ravana, the issue with hog is that it takes up a relic spot that purification or a teamfight relic that meditation or shell could occupy. Cherryo from Sanguine actually elects to go purification himself to combat the usually high cc the enemy team has. On top of that, hog isn't really vital for clear either. Ymir's Glacial Strike already does 90 damage at level one, with his autos dealing a lot of damage to camps with Frostbite. So Ymir's clear is already good. Wrath is just meant to relieve pressure from potential invades by speeding up clear.

• Fixed a mistake in the Frostbite section; it applies to multiple targets.
• Added Polynomicon to the item selection.
• Fixed some inconsistencies with the formant.
• Added new chapter on how viable Ymir actually is in jungle.
• Added tier list.
• Added Dynasty Plate Helm to the item selection.

I know, it was said before already, but your guide is really well done- it looks very neat (aspecially as for the first one) and shows that the person making it was willing to spend time on some research regarding formatting issues as well as establishing a certain style.

I was just thinking; as your items' and abilities' descriptions are detailed and contain lots of helpful information- is putting the abilities in the spoiler even necessary? I'd say that the abilities' explanations could be debatably considered even more important than the items' ones, and thus should be seen by default.

Also, talking about items- what would you think about adding a Polynomicon to the situational choices? Even though it does require a considerable amount of power in the build to be maximally effective, there surely are games when Ymir happens to get fed and can afford building mostly damage.

Can't tell whether you know this but seeing that you answered to Bran yet the small mistake in "Frostbite only proccs on one single target" is still there, I just thought I could inform/remind you of the fact that when you want for your changes to be seen by everyone you have to "publish" your guide again; it won't make a new copy as one could fear but will just actually update it.

And hey, overall it was really pleasant to read; with a kind touch of Ymir "Bye!" at the end- easy upvote, keep it up!

This is fantastic for your first guide! Thanks for taking the effort to write out all the item and gameplay explanations, as well as pretty it up. +1 :)

Hi Pellie,

Welcome to SF! Wow, great job so far on your first guide! It's got a lot of information on abilities, item choices, and gameplay. I haven't read through it all yet (will do so tonight, I think), but I do have a couple of comments.

• Skill leveling: I understand and generally agree. I do want to point out that you can level your ult at 17 instead of 18, and wonder why you choose to level Ice Wall at 17 instead. Just 1 more second...difference between 4 and 5 seconds, at that point, seems less important than another level in your ult.
  
  
• Pros/Cons formatting: your Cons section starts higher than the Pros. Easy way to fix that is at the start of Cons, hit enter one or two times, and see again how it lines up. Or, perhaps you pressed enter one or two too many times at the end, since Cons is a shorter list? Either way, just pointing it out.
  
  
• Unless I'm mistaken, Frostbite is applied to ANY enemy (minion or god) that is hit by a damaging ability...you state it's only a single target. ALSO, you state it applies on his next basic attack. It's not a single effect like Hydra's Lament's passive...it has a duration of 4 seconds, and so can easily apply for multiple basics.

In any case, will go over the rest of this guide later. Hope this is helpful!

This is my first guide so please take it easy on me haha. Also, I will try to update it so please give me some ideas you'd like the see in the future! :D