Dissecting Smite #1: Oversexualization, Stereotyping, Double-Standards, and Other Misogyny in Smite

Welp. ****. Love you Buddha.

Anyhows, thanks for clarifying Sub. I understand that silence is a message, however, my problem is just people who actually agree with you but remain silent anyways. It isn't right to blame them for it. Because they aren't SUPPORTING sexism.

Apathy toward sexism may be bad, but it's not nearly as bad as them SUPPORTING it.

And just in case you are wondering what MY point is, it's not to disagree with you, because to a certain extent I do agree with you, I'm trying to defend the people who you are accusing. To blame all the players of Smite for simply not saying something seems like a rather broad accusation, and isn't entirely fair.

who was it again who said that hirez is now a big company with a ton of cash?

look saying that you find the balence is more important then the pornogrification is fine but here is the thing. why not both? hirez has enough cash to hire people so fixing stuff like this is not hard.

i mean, fixing doens't have to be done in one patch, to rehire voice actors is not cheap but like people have said they have a lot of money now. changing simple taunt animations is not very hard, it takes an hour at most to change noxes tit shaking into her waving her hand in a "come at me" fasion.

the woman body models are all quiet similar, just shurken or enlargend parts for the majority of the goddesses. changing some of their frames to be a little less similar should also not be hard.

those are very small things that can be done in one patch that can go a loooooooong way.

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changes like body armor is something that can be done in 2 patches.

it's litterly for freya remove bra, add generic chestplate.

for athena a quick fix as a temporary hold could be the same, add generic chestplate. later on they can give her an armor that fits her phalanx strategy better.

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laughs, taunt, jokes and complete body overhauls take a lot longer and would need more time. that doesn't mean you can't quick fix them temporarely.

coming up with the new jokes and taunts is not hard, sure its harder then going for generic wench in kitchens jokes or toilet humor but it's not so hard.

the making new body types is hard but since they have only one or two for woman already, i think its perfectly fair to ask for some effort on hirezes part.

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why would they not beable to fix the woman of smite while also working on the balence? is the real question.

I dunno, man. Like, Sub, holy ****. You're usually better than this.

Where's the past you that furiously talked about Smite's balance, gameplay, gods, etc. go? And now you go down talking about fkin sexualization.

As dac said, the problem of oversexualization (and by extension, misogyny and sexism, IF HiRez means such things) IN SMITE is in the back of everyone's head. I'd rather think what builds Ao Kuang should go for than think of Nox's wardrobe choice.

This is not saying that misogyny and sexism isn't a real, urgent problem in the world. But putting Smite forward as a "grand case" of sexism and sexualization? Like, wtf dude?

The only answer I have to your last question is the amount of resources, including time resources, human resources, and financial resources. I don't think Hi-Rez has enough of either of those 3 things.

@Subzero008, I think your misunderstanding what I am trying to say.

Us having a debate about what women should and should not look like in video games is a bit, sketchy. If you were to ask every women what they thought of gods in Smite, or body image in general, you would most likely get mixed answers.

Some would be offended by saying its unrealistic, and others wouldn't really care. I mean, Smite is a video gaming that lacks realism, so character design shouldn't be taken so seriously.

AS for you being offended, me quoting your post was not meant to single you out, but rather to show where i'm basing my argument from.

What i'm really trying to say is that we are having a debate about a topic that is difficult. It's one of those worldly social issues on the same lines as religion. Everyone has a different view and there is no way to prove who is right.

I'm sorry for what I said, but I was not trying to offend you.

*EDIT: Do not imply that I am insensitive to sexism. This a video game, not real life. I am all for gender equality. Frankly the implication of me being sexist is insulting.

you know to awsner that question i asked it was kind of the point to read everything else...

like i said there are already things that take the bare minimum of effort and money and time and man power that can go a long way.

smite has put them on the map enough for them to be talking to big time developers, this means they have money because they are big. time is something that they as an independed developer can give to them selves freely in a lot of situations.

they are only bound to tencent and balence and pornogrification problems is not something they care about enough to put a deadline on unfortunately (because then they would be forced to fix it) so time constrains is also not an issue.

the only 2 things tencent can put deadlines on is tournement stuff and god releases. about everything else they would probebly not care for other then maybe advertise ment deadlines.

Do you possibly think that Hi-Rez's depiction of female goddesses is being influenced by Tencent?